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Murder 1 and 2 are lumped together in SC. Malice aforethought is required in murder 2.
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The crime Slager committed fits the murder charge he caught. Based on what we know, it's the correct charge.
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Posted by stinenavy on 4/16/2015 1:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/15/2015 4:40:00 PM (view original):
In the line of duty.     Slager was not Joe Schmoe throwing down in the parking lot of Hooters.   He was a cop attempting to arrest a fleeing, then a resisting, criminal.   In the line of duty. 
Putting on a uniform doesn't give you authority to shoot unarmed people in the back.
Gives you the authority to make calls on the use of force to subdue criminals. 

Slager made a bad call.    Doesn't make it murder.
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And, because some of you seem denser than lead, no one is saying Slager isn't guilty of anything.   He is.   He recklessly used his firearm in a situation that didn't seem to require it.   His recklessness resulted in a man's death.  It's just not murder.   He was an on duty police officer attempting to subdue a suspect who first ran from a minor traffic stop then assaulted a police officer.    Those actions could reasonably lead Slager to believe he was a danger to the community. 

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Posted by moy23 on 4/15/2015 3:20:00 PM (view original):
I edited my last post to paint a better picture.


I do not think slager was in danger when Scott was running away. If I did I'd say it was justifiable homicide.

I do think slager, after running to catch this guy, then being attacked and almost losing his taser to Scott, pumped up on adrenaline was not 'thinking clearly' and he mistakenly, recklessly shot Scott in the heat of the moment. That's manslaughter.

If even one juror believes as I do... You have a hung jury.
Lol. Was this before or after he planted the taser next to him? It's SC, one of the three most ****** up states in the country. You might be right.
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You seem to be stuck on the "planted evidence".   He didn't really "plant" anything.   The taser was out and it had been discharged.    He moved it from the place where that happened to the suspect's side.    Pretty stupid, as I mentioned earlier, because forensics would show the guy was shot in the back at less than 20 yards and fingerprinting would tell whether or not the suspect had the taser in hand.   

But not indicative of a murder. 
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And "coherent and calculated" is far from descriptive of his thoughts.    Please see reference to "forensics".   

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Posted by MikeT23 on 4/16/2015 8:17:00 AM (view original):

And, because some of you seem denser than lead, no one is saying Slager isn't guilty of anything.   He is.   He recklessly used his firearm in a situation that didn't seem to require it.   His recklessness resulted in a man's death.  It's just not murder.   He was an on duty police officer attempting to subdue a suspect who first ran from a minor traffic stop then assaulted a police officer.    Those actions could reasonably lead Slager to believe he was a danger to the community. 

If Slager was reasonable in his belief that Scott was a danger to Slager or to others, then the shooting was legally justified and Slager should not be facing any charges and should still have his job.
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Posted by bad_luck on 4/16/2015 11:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/16/2015 8:17:00 AM (view original):

And, because some of you seem denser than lead, no one is saying Slager isn't guilty of anything.   He is.   He recklessly used his firearm in a situation that didn't seem to require it.   His recklessness resulted in a man's death.  It's just not murder.   He was an on duty police officer attempting to subdue a suspect who first ran from a minor traffic stop then assaulted a police officer.    Those actions could reasonably lead Slager to believe he was a danger to the community. 

If Slager was reasonable in his belief that Scott was a danger to Slager or to others, then the shooting was legally justified and Slager should not be facing any charges and should still have his job.
That's what the defense will argue... That it was justified.
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Posted by moy23 on 4/16/2015 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/16/2015 11:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/16/2015 8:17:00 AM (view original):

And, because some of you seem denser than lead, no one is saying Slager isn't guilty of anything.   He is.   He recklessly used his firearm in a situation that didn't seem to require it.   His recklessness resulted in a man's death.  It's just not murder.   He was an on duty police officer attempting to subdue a suspect who first ran from a minor traffic stop then assaulted a police officer.    Those actions could reasonably lead Slager to believe he was a danger to the community. 

If Slager was reasonable in his belief that Scott was a danger to Slager or to others, then the shooting was legally justified and Slager should not be facing any charges and should still have his job.
That's what the defense will argue... That it was justified.
Sure. But there's an established standard for justified shootings. Slager has to fear for his life or have probable cause to believe that Scott would hurt someone else if deadly force isn't used.

The fear or probable cause have to be objectively reasonable.
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Posted by moy23 on 4/16/2015 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/16/2015 11:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/16/2015 8:17:00 AM (view original):

And, because some of you seem denser than lead, no one is saying Slager isn't guilty of anything.   He is.   He recklessly used his firearm in a situation that didn't seem to require it.   His recklessness resulted in a man's death.  It's just not murder.   He was an on duty police officer attempting to subdue a suspect who first ran from a minor traffic stop then assaulted a police officer.    Those actions could reasonably lead Slager to believe he was a danger to the community. 

If Slager was reasonable in his belief that Scott was a danger to Slager or to others, then the shooting was legally justified and Slager should not be facing any charges and should still have his job.
That's what the defense will argue... That it was justified.

Yep, that's exactly what they'll argue.    If the charge was involuntary manslaughter, Slager would be found guilty for his reckless behavior.    But it's not.

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