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16 Players, 16 Seasons, Version 17
$120M Salary Cap
1901 - 1960 Seasons Only

This is a 16 team league. Each owner will nominate 1 player that has played 16 seasons* or more in their career. Once all 16 players are announced, a draft order will be determined and each owner will draft a different season of each player nominated to be on their team. So all 16 teams will own the same 16 players, but each with a different version of that player. The other 9 rosters spots will be filled with teammates of your 16 drafted players.

* Note that if a player played 15 years, but played for 2 different teams in one season, that counts as 16 (you'll understand why after reading the remaining rules ). Also, since only years 1901-1960 are used in this version, the player must have 16 eligible seasons during this time frame. Example: if a player has 18 seasons (i.e., 1898-1915), but 3 of those seasons are 1898-1900, then he has only 15 eligible seasons and cannot be nominated. To determine number of player seasons, choose Pos = ALL, Min Games = 0, Check "Include Secondary Positions" and set Season Type = Full/Combined and years 1901-1960 (i.e., Warren Spahn has only 15 seasons for purposes of this league, 1946-60). Both teams of a multi-team player can be drafted (but you must choose the partial or combined season). 

A standard lineup will be used for nominations so we'll need C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF and 8 pitchers (at least 4 SP). For players who played more than one position, there will be some leeway on which position he qualifies at (i.e., F.Frisch can be 2b or 3b).

Upon signup, post your nominated player in the forum and site-mail me which of his seasons you are going to use.  For purposes of ranking the highest salaried seasons, players who played for 2+ teams, only one of those seasons counts in the rankings. I will choose my player after at least five players have been selected. Once all 16 players are chosen, I'll post the seasons selected and the draft order. We'll have a 15 round draft to select the other 15 seasons used for each player. Draft order for each round will be based on the cumulative salary going into that round (lowest salary drafts first).

Here's where it gets fun
The remaining 9 roster spots must be filled with teammates of your drafted/nominated players. They must be from the same season. No Twisting. Nominated players cannot be used as teammates. If you draft a player season with 2+ teams, you choose which version of that season you want, and can only take teammates from that team. (This is how a player who played 15 years, but had a multi-team season can be allowed. Or similarly, a player who played 14 years, w/ two multi-team seasons is allowed, etc.). There is no limit on number of teammates per drafted player. Many drafted players will not have any teammates rostered. Some will have two or more. Usually, your nominated player will have multiple good teammate options.

Salary Cap = $120 million
Seasons - 1901-1960 only
No AAA
No WW
No DH
No Trades
No Clones
No Injuries
No Live Play
Any stadium
Random alignment

See the blacklist below. The blacklist includes any players taken in any previous versions
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Owners List:
1. mllama54 (Gus Mancuso)
2. zephyr1949 (Joe Cronin)
3. njbigwig (Wally Moses)
4. fatboydad54 (Charlie Jamieson)
5. ejstockman (Red Schoendienst)
6. schwarze (Frank Schulte) 
7. pedrocerrano (Murry Dickson)
8. brucel (Virgil Trucks)
9. coled (Hal Chase)
10. shysters3 (Freddie Fitzsimmons)
11. horus_6 (Red Faber)
12. marlowe (Harry Gumbert)
13. odalisgagne (George Kell)
14. mpitt76 (Dolf Luque)
15. ttrain08 (Walter Johnson)
16. Hoofhearted (Jesse Haines)

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brucel; coled; fatboydad54; ejstockman; Hoofhearted; horus_6; marlowe; mllama54; mpitt76; njbigwig; odalisgagne; pedrocerrano; schwarze; shysters3; ttrain08; zephyr1949
2/26/2015 7:14 PM (edited)
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Nominated Players List
(Bold indicates that the player's nominated season was site-mailed to me)
 
C: Gus Mancuso (17 seasons)
1B: Hal Chase (17 seasons)
2B: Red Schoendienst (17 seasons)
3B: George Kell (18 seasons)
SS: Joe Cronin (18 seasons)
OF: Charlie Jamieson (16 seasons)
OF: Wally Moses (18 seasons)
OF: Frank Schulte (17 seasons)

SP: Murry Dickson (18 seasons)
SP: Freddie Fitzsimmons (19 seasons)
SP: Red Faber (20 seasons)
SP: Virgil Trucks (17 seasons)
SP: Harry Gumbert (16 seasons)
SP: Dolf Luque (17 seasons)
SP: Walter Johnson (21 seasons)
SP: Jesse Haines (18 seasons)
 
2/26/2015 7:07 PM (edited)
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BLACKLIST -
These are the guys you cannot nominate (they can be rostered as teammates though)
(players from this version added)

C:
Bench, Johnny
Berra, Yogi
Bresnahan, Roger
Burgess, Smoky
Dickey, Bill
Hartnett, Gabby
Mancuso, Gus
Pena, Tony
Porter, Darrell
Ruel, Muddy
Santiago, Benito
Schang, Wally
Torre, Joe

1B
Cash, Norm
Chase, Hal
Clark, Jack
Evans, Darrell
Foxx, Jimmie
Galarraga, Andres
Helton, Todd
Judge, Joe
McGirff, Fred
Olerud, John
Sisler, George
Thomas, Frank

2B
Alomar, Roberto
Biggio, Craig
Carew, Rod
Collins, Eddie
Franco, Julio
Frisch, Frankie
Gehringer, Charlie
Hornsby, Rogers
Kent, Jeff
Morgan, Joe
Offerman, Jose
Schoendienst, Red

3B
Boggs, Wade
Brett, George
Caminiti, Ken
Cross, Lave
Dyk.es, Jimmy
Kell, George
Jones, Chipper
Martinez, Edgar
Mathews, Eddie
Nettles, Graig
Schmidt, Mike
Taylor, Terry
Wallach, Tim

SS
Bancroft, Dave
Campaneris, Bert
Cronin, Joe
Dahlen, Bill
Davis, George
Fregosi, Jim
Jeter Derek
Ripken Jr., Cal
Schofield Sr., Dick
Smith, Ozzie
Stephens, Vern
Vizquel, Omar
Wagner, Honus

OF
Baines, Harold
Brown, Tom
Burks, Ellis
Clarke, Fred
Cramer, Doc
Davis, Eric
Davis, Tommy
Davis, WIllie
Dawson, Andre
Delahanty, Ed
Fairly, Ron
Foster, George
Gonzalez, Luis
Goslin, Goose
Griffey Jr., Ken
Gwynn, Tony
Henderson, Rickey
Jamieson, Charlie
Keeler, Willie
Kingman, Dave
McGee, Willie
Medwick, Joe
Moses, Wally
Musial, Stan
Otis, Amos
Polonia, Luis
Raines, Tim
Ramirez, Manny
Ruth, Babe
Schulte, Frank
Sheckard, Jimmy
Sheffield, Gary
Slaughter, Enos
Snider, Duke
Speaker, Tris
Wheat, Zack
White, Rondell
Young, Robin

P
Adams, Babe
Alexander, Pete
Ames, Red
Andersen, Larry
Blue, Vida
Brown, Kevin
Bunning, Jim
Burba, Dave
Carlton, Steve
Clemens, Roger
Darwin, Danny
Dickson, Murry
Drabowsky, Moe
Eckersley, Dennis
Embree, Alan
Faber, Red
Feller, Bob
Fisher, Eddie
Fitzsimmons, Freddie
Ford, Whitey
Forsch, Bob
Gibson, Bob
Gooden, Dwight
Gordon, Tom
Gossage, Goose
Grove, Lefty
Gumpert, Harry
Guthrie, Mark
Haines, Jesse
Hawkins, LaTroy
Hershiser, Orel
Hoffman, Trevor
Hoyt, Waite
Hubbell, Carl
Isringhausen, Jason
Jackson, Grant
Johnson, Randy
Johnson, Walter
Jones, Doug
Jones, Todd
Koosman, Jerry
Lamp, Dennis
Lowe, Derek
Luque, Dolf
Lyons, Ted
Maddux, Greg
Martinez, Pedro
Mathewson, Christy
Mays, Carl
McDaniel, Lindy
McGraw, Tug
McMahon, Don
Mercker, Kent
Mesa, Jose
Miller, Bob L. (57-74)
Miller, Stu
Millwood, Kevin
Moore, Earl
Morgan, Mike
Morris, Jack
Mulholland, Terry
Mussina, Mike
Nehf, Art
Orosco, Jesse
Pennock, Herb
Pizarro, Juan
Plank, Eddie
Plesac, Dan
Pollet, Howie
Quinn, Jack
Reardon, Jeff
Rhodes, Arthur
Rivera, Mariano
Rixey, Eppa
Roberts, Robin
Ruffing, Red
Ryan, Nolan
Schilling, Curt
Seaver, Tom
Smith, Lee
Smoltz, John
Spahn, Warren
Staley, Gerry
Sutcliffe, Rick
Sutton, Don
Tavarez, Julian
Tiant, Luis
Timlin, Mike
Trucks, Virgil
Wakefield, Tim
Weyhing, Gus
Whitehill, Earl
Wilhelm, Hoyt
Witt, Bobby
Wynn, Early
Vance, Dazzy
Zachary, Tom
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Sign up begins now
2/23/2015 12:47 PM
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I eliminated the "Top 3 Salary" season rule.  With the player blacklist and limited years, I needed to increase the player pool.
2/23/2015 1:10 PM
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I am in. Player to be determined.
2/23/2015 1:12 PM
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i will join,,player to be determined
2/23/2015 1:20 PM
njbigwig
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In, of course.  OF Wally Moses
2/23/2015 3:18 PM (edited)
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Gus Mancuso Catcher  17 Seasons
2/23/2015 1:25 PM
fatboydad54
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I am in with  OF Charlie Jamieson
2/23/2015 1:52 PM
zephyr1949
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SS Joe Cronin 18 seasons
2/23/2015 2:19 PM
ejstockman
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In with Red Schoendienst, 17 seasons.
2/23/2015 2:31 PM (edited)
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In - player TBD
2/23/2015 2:33 PM
schwarze
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I will tentatively select Lloyd Waner, OF

Changed my mind.  Will take Frank Schulte, OF  (17 seasons).

 

This should help people with their pitching staff.

2/23/2015 3:29 PM (edited)
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