Posted by johnnyf on 2/26/2015 4:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 4:20:00 PM (view original):
The only feedback to interpret are the very specific emails referencing who they are leaning towards. Nothing else matters. Don't make things too complicated for yourself.

Thats what I've been doing. "I'm leaning towards," "Just say the word," "Undecided," "want to look around" etc. 

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 4:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by johnnyf on 2/26/2015 4:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 4:20:00 PM (view original):
The only feedback to interpret are the very specific emails referencing who they are leaning towards. Nothing else matters. Don't make things too complicated for yourself.

Thats what I've been doing. "I'm leaning towards," "Just say the word," "Undecided," "want to look around" etc. 

That's what I'm saying you should ignore. On signing day, you'll get an email that indicates he favors you or someone else. The only other emails that matter are the ones where he indicated he has changed his mind. The "I'm close to making my decision and I'm leaning your way" or the " I'm pretty sure I'm headed somewhere else. " emails.

if he is giving you the "im leaning your way" you are winning and will sign him unless your opponent puts more money into him.  If your opponent goes ahead, youll get a message saying "i wont rule you out yet, but i am pretty sure i am heading somewhere else" after which you can spend more to try to get back in the lead, when youll get the "im leaning your way" email again.

many coaches will not spend on a recruit after they get the message saying you are winning, unless they then get the message saying you are losing.  the ones that say "perfect fit" or "keep in touch" dont mean anything other than that youve sent them some recruiting action.  i have had plenty of times when i knew i was losing a battle and got the "you sound like the perfect fit" message.

Posted by loudawg10 on 2/26/2015 5:15:00 PM (view original):

if he is giving you the "im leaning your way" you are winning and will sign him unless your opponent puts more money into him.  If your opponent goes ahead, youll get a message saying "i wont rule you out yet, but i am pretty sure i am heading somewhere else" after which you can spend more to try to get back in the lead, when youll get the "im leaning your way" email again.

many coaches will not spend on a recruit after they get the message saying you are winning, unless they then get the message saying you are losing.  the ones that say "perfect fit" or "keep in touch" dont mean anything other than that youve sent them some recruiting action.  i have had plenty of times when i knew i was losing a battle and got the "you sound like the perfect fit" message.

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 5:30:00 PM (view original):
Yeah that's the only message that matters until you get one that says he now favors you instead. Ignore any phone call or letter responses you might get.

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 6:13:00 PM (view original):
Great news! Now hope your opponent is empty, but it could take a while to find out.

Posted by johnnyf on 2/26/2015 6:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 6:13:00 PM (view original):
Great news! Now hope your opponent is empty, but it could take a while to find out.

It only took the 31st CV sent to get him to flip lol. At this point, he's legally a member of the faculty whether he takes the scholarship or not. 

Posted by dublinuf on 2/27/2015 6:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by johnnyf on 2/26/2015 6:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 6:13:00 PM (view original):
Great news! Now hope your opponent is empty, but it could take a while to find out.

It only took the 31st CV sent to get him to flip lol. At this point, he's legally a member of the faculty whether he takes the scholarship or not. 

I wouldn't tell your opponent that on the message board.

Posted by hypnotoad on 2/26/2015 5:30:00 PM (view original):
Yeah that's the only message that matters until you get one that says he now favors you instead. Ignore any phone call or letter responses you might get.

99.9% of the time, I agree with hypnotoad.  But, a few cycles ago at D-II Missouri Western (Wilkinson), I was in a battle for a recruit.  We went back and forth before signing day, red one cycle, then green, then back to yellow, etc.  On signing day the guy was still yellow, but I offered a scholarship to see how I was doing.  I got the "leaning your way" response.  A few cycles later, I got the "better off somewhere else" response.  I got him back leaning my way, then the other coach got him back.  At that point I had very little $$ left...not enough even for a CV.

I had a plan B guy green already and was pretty sure he wasn't going anywhere, so, I started sending plan A a phone call or two or three every cycle, just to use up what $$ I had left.  And then, one cycle, near the end of the recruiting period, he signed with me.  I never received a message saying he was "leaning my way" again.  I went back through messages and double-checked and I hadn't missed it.  It was never there.  One cycle he's leaning somewhere else, and the next cycle he signed with me.  So, somewhere in all the meaningless phone call responses, one of them actually meant something.