Rule V Leg #48 Draft Thread Topic

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Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender (the Angels and Twins have won recently), and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 23rd, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.  Division alignment will be determined by the commissioner after team selection is complete.  We will attempt to keep divisions as close to real life as possible.  Geography will be the first factor, but we will also attempt to maintain traditional rivalries if possible.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2014) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first).  Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data.  Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA

No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2014
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.  The scumbag finally won a couple of championships.  Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

(Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (welcome back!)

Newest Entry: Alleyviper's Favorite Third Baseman of All Time (AFTBOAT) - Scott Rolen (has picked him at least four drafts)
4/16/2015 9:45 PM
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Player Draft Order.  Franchises that have been taken are marked in RED.

Worst-to-Best rankings (removing best & worst seasons)
Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 6 364 608 0.3745
2 D'backs 11 769 1013 0.4315
3 Tigers 19 1372 1706 0.4457
4 Pirates 18 1368 1548 0.4691
5 White Sox 9 689 769 0.4726
6 Rockies 12 932 1012 0.4794
7 Twins 23 1795 1932 0.4816
8 Rangers 18 1412 1505 0.4841
9 Angels 18 1428 1488 0.4897
10 Blue Jays 25 1988 2063 0.4907
11 Orioles 23 1844 1883 0.4948
12 Marlins 20 1606 1636 0.4954
13 Brewers 23 1863 1866 0.4996
14 Padres 23 1862 1864 0.4997
15 Expos 29 2353 2348 0.5005
16 Mariners 28 2273 2264 0.5010
17 Phillies 29 2360 2341 0.5020
18 Indians 29 2367 2332 0.5037
19 Reds 23 1888 1839 0.5066
20 Braves 28 2304 2232 0.5079
21 Mets 27 2223 2152 0.5081
22 Giants 28 2310 2228 0.5090
23 Red Sox 29 2401 2298 0.5110
24 Cubs 21 1743 1659 0.5123
25 Royals 25 2084 1967 0.5144
26 Cardinals 29 2429 2270 0.5169
27 Yankees 25 2146 1904 0.5299
28 Dodgers 28 2420 2118 0.5333
29 A's 29 2531 2168 0.5386
30 Astros 29 2571 2128 0.5471
4/21/2015 8:33 AM (edited)
sinfonian11
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Franchise Draft Order (timed MONDAY 4/20)
  1. spoonfed 59-103 .364                              Houston Astros^
  2. jose can u c 63-99 .389$                         Boston Red Sox^
  3. mussopini23 65-97 .401                         Minnesota Twins
  4. ff09 68-94 .420                                           Detroit Tigers^
  5. Robin4 69-93 .426                                    Los Angeles Dodgers^
  6. dilligafdbp 74-88 .457                              Pittsburgh Pirates^
  7. schwarze 75-87 .463$                              St. Louis Cardinals^
  8. spikeboots 77-85 .475                              Colorado Rockies^
  9. pumpkinmcp 79-83 .487                           New York Mets^
  10. llcoach 80-82 .494                                    Kansas City Royals^
  11. specsman 82-80 .506                               Chicago Cubs^
  12. dvorr80 82-80 .506                                   Cincinnati Reds^
  13. sinfonian11 84-78 .519                             San Francisco Giants^
  14. buddhagamer 85-77 .525                        New York Yankees^
  15. tjefferson 86-77 .528                                 Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals
  16. shaybee 86-76 .531                                  Atlanta Braves^
  17. marlowe 81-81 .500*                                Seattle Mariners^
  18. deathdealer 87-76 .534*                          Toronto Blue Jays^
  19. mllama54 87-75 .537*                              Oakland Athletics^
  20. rbow923 96-66 .593*                                 Arizona Diamondbacks^
  21. tridentric 98-64 .605*                                Philadelphia Phillies^
  22. alleyviper 101-61 .623*                             Chicago White Sox^
  23. koyunlu 91-71 .562%                                San Diego Padres^
  24. alice 90-72 .556&                                       Los Angeles Angels^
^ Third round keepers sent
* playoff team
$ new owner
% WS runner-up
& WS champion

Owner list for sitemailing: deathdealer; jose can u c; Robin4; koyunlu; mussopini23; pumpkinmcp; tjefferson; spikeboots; alice; llcoach; ff09; dvorr80; alleyviper; sinfonian11; rbow923; shaybee; spoonfed; tridentric; marlowe; dilligafdbp; buddhagamer; specsman; schwarze; mllama54

Division Alignment

NL East
Atlanta
NY Mets
Montreal
Philadelphia

NL Central
St. Louis
Chi Cubs
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh

NL West
Los Angeles
San Francisco
San Diego
Colorado

AL East
NY Yankees
Boston
Toronto
Detroit

AL Central
Kansas City
Minnesota
Chi White Sox
Houston

AL West
Oakland
Seattle
Arizona
California


4/29/2015 9:28 AM (edited)
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Player Draft First Round (timed schedule Friday 4/24)                                                                            Off the Board
  1. rbow923 - Arizona Diamondbacks                                          Fernando Valenzuela - LAD
  2. ff09 - Detroit Tigers                                                                     JR Richard - HOU
  3. dilligafdbp - Pittsburgh Pirates                                                Orel Hershiser - LAD                  Los Angeles Dodgers
  4. alleyviper - Chicago White Sox                                               Rico Petrocelli - BOS
  5. spikeboots - Colorado Rockies                                               Mark McGwire - STL
  6. mussopini23 - Minnesota Twins                                              Tom Seaver - CIN
  7. alice - Los Angeles Angels                                                        Jose Altuve - HOU                     Houston Astros
  8. deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays                                               Carlton Fisk - BOS                     Boston Red Sox
  9. koyunlu - San Diego Padres                                                     Mike Trout - LAA
  10. tjefferson - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals                   Dave Righetti - NYY
  11. marlowe - Seattle Mariners                                                       Buster Posey - SFG
  12. tridentric - Philadelphia Phillies                                                 Bob Gibson - STL                       St. Louis Cardinals
  13. dvorr80 - Cincinnati Reds                                                         Fritz Peterson - NYY                   New York Yankees
  14. shaybee - Atlanta Braves                                                          Tim Burke - MON/WSH
  15. pumpkinmcp - New York Mets                                                   Bobby Abreu - PHI
  16. sinfonian11 - San Francisco Giants                                         Mark Eichhorn - TOR
  17. jose can u c - Boston Red Sox                                                  Curt Schilling - ARI
  18. specsman - Chicago Cubs                                                        Barry Larkin - CIN                       Cincinnati Reds
  19. llcoach - Kansas City Royals                                                     Jimmy Rollins - PHI                    Philadelphia Phillies
  20. schwarze - St. Louis Cardinals                                                 David Cone - KCR
  21. buddhagamer - New York Yankees                                           Rick Reuschel - PIT
  22. Robin4 - Los Angeles Dodgers                                                  Rich Aurillia - SFG                      San Francisco Giants
  23. mllama54 - Oakland Athletics                                                    Willie Wilson - KCR                     Kansas City Royals
  24. spoonfed - Houston Astros                                                        Mike Piazza - NYM
Player Draft Second Round (timed schedule Tuesday 4/28)
  1. rbow923 - Arizona Diamondbacks                                             Rickey Henderson - OAK
  2. ff09 - Detroit Tigers                                                                        Hideo Nomo - LAD
  3. dilligafdbp - Pittsburgh Pirates                                                    TSMOPOAT - HOU
  4. alleyviper - Chicago White Sox                                                    AFTBOAT - STL
  5. spikeboots - Colorado Rockies                                                  Bill Singer - LAD                          Los Angeles Dodgers
  6. mussopini23 - Minnesota Twins                                                 Willie McGee - STL                      St. Louis Cardinals
  7. alice - Los Angeles Angels                                                         Jose Reyes - NYM
  8. deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays                                                 Roger Nelson - KCR
  9. koyunlu - San Diego Padres                                                        John Valentin - BOS
  10. tjefferson - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals                 Carl Yastrzemski - BOS              Boston Red Sox
  11. marlowe - Seattle Mariners                                                          Don Mattingly - NYY
  12. tridentric - Philadelphia Phillies                                                   Don Wilson - HOU                        Houston Astros
  13. dvorr80 - Cincinnati Reds                                                             Carlos Guillen - DET
  14. shaybee - Atlanta Braves                                                              Howard Johnson - NYM              New York Mets
  15. pumpkinmcp - New York Mets                                                     Reggie Jackson - OAK               Oakland Athletics
  16. sinfonian11 - San Francisco Giants                                            Rick Wilkins - CHC
  17. jose can u c - Boston Red Sox                                                     Darrell Porter - KCR                    Kansas City Royals
  18. specsman - Chicago Cubs                                                           Craig Kimbrel - ATL
  19. llcoach - Kansas City Royals                                                        Andy Van Slyke - PIT
  20. schwarze - St. Louis Cardinals                                                     Bernie Williams - NYY
  21. buddhagamer - New York Yankees                                              Jimmy Key - TOR
  22. Robin4 - Los Angeles Dodgers                                                     Will Clark - SFG
  23. mllama54 - Oakland Athletics                                                       Roberto Alomar - TOR               Toronto Blue Jays
  24. spoonfed - Houston Astros                                                           Troy Glaus - LAA
Player Draft Third Round (timed schedule THURSDAY 4/30)
  1. rbow923 - Arizona Diamondbacks                                                Eric Gagne - LAD
  2. ff09 - Detroit Tigers                                                                           Koji Uehara - BOS
  3. dilligafdbp - Pittsburgh Pirates                                                      Robinson Cano - NYY
  4. alleyviper - Chicago White Sox                                                     Rich Gossage - PIT
  5. spikeboots - Colorado Rockies                                                      Matt Cain - SFG
  6. mussopini23 - Minnesota Twins                                                   Darrell Evans - ATL
  7. alice - Los Angeles Angels                                                             Wes Parker - LAD                         Los Angeles Dodgers
  8. deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays                                                    Chris Young - SDP
  9. koyunlu - San Diego Padres                                                          Garrett Richards - LAA
  10. tjefferson - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals                    Adrian Beltre - BOS                      Boston Red Sox
  11. marlowe - Seattle Mariners                                                             Andrew Bailey - OAK
  12. tridentric - Philadelphia Phillies                                                        Lance Johnson - NYM                                                     
  13. dvorr80 - Cincinnati Reds                                                                Don Sutton - HOU
  14. shaybee - Atlanta Braves                                                                 Rheal Cormier - PHI
  15. pumpkinmcp - New York Mets                                                        Edgar Renteria - STL
  16. sinfonian11 - San Francisco Giants                                              Rafael Furcal - ATL                        Atlanta Braves
  17. jose can u c - Boston Red Sox                                                       Zane Smith - PIT                          Pittsburgh Pirates
  18. specsman - Chicago Cubs                                                             Andy Pettitte - HOU                     Houston Astros
  19. llcoach - Kansas City Royals                                                          Joe Nathan - MIN                                              
  20. schwarze - St. Louis Cardinals                                                       Dellin Betances - NYY                  New York Yankees
  21. buddhagamer - New York Yankees                                                Placido Polanco - DET
  22. Robin4 - Los Angeles Dodgers                                                      Dave Winfield - SDP                    San Diego Padres
  23. mllama54 - Oakland Athletics                                                        Yadier Molina - STL                       St. Louis Cardinals
  24. spoonfed - Houston Astros                                                            Mark McGwire - OAK                    Oakland Athletics

5/1/2015 3:55 PM (edited)
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List of keepers/draft picks

rbow923 - Arizona Diamondbacks:  Randy Johnson, Luis Gonzalez, Aaron Hill, Paul Goldschmidt, Matt Williams, Fernando Valenzuela - LAD, Miguel Montero, Rickey Henderson - OAK, Daniel Hudson, Eric Gagne - LAD

ff09 - Detroit Tigers:  Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Miguel Cabrera, Alan Trammell, Magglio Ordonez, JR Richard - HOU, Tony Phillips, Hideo Nomo - LAD, Willie Hernandez, Koji Uehara - BOS

dilligafdbp - Pittsburgh Pirates:  Jason Kendall, Jay Bell, Doug Drabek, Andrew McCutchen, Barry Bonds, Orel Hershiser - LAD, Brian Giles, TSMOPOAT - HOU, Freddy Sanchez, Robinson Cano - NYY

alleyviper - Chicago White Sox:  Frank Thomas, Albert Belle, Wilbur Wood, Chris Sale, Keith Foulke, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, Dick Allen, AFTBOAT - STL, La Marr Hoyt, Rich Gossage - PIT

spikeboots - Colorado Rockies:  Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Vinny Castilla, Troy Tulowitski, Eric Young, Mark McGwire - STL, Ellis Burks, Bill Singer - LAD, Matt Holliday, Matt Cain - SFG

mussopini23 - Minnesota Twins:  Kirby Puckett, Joe Mauer, Rod Carew, Johan Santana, Bert Blyleven, Tom Seaver - CIN, Chuck Knoblauch, Willie McGee - STL, Lyman Bostock, Darrell Evans - ATL

alice - Los Angeles Angels:  Andy Messersmith, Frank Tanana, TSMOPOAT, Mike Witt, Darin Erstad, Jose Altuve - HOU, Jared Weaver, Jose Reyes - NYM, Troy Percival, Wes Parker - LAD

deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays:  Jose Bautista, Carlos Delgado, John Olerud, Tony Fernandez, Roger Clemens, Carlton Fisk - BOS, Roy Halladay, Roger Nelson - KCR, BJ Ryan, Chris Young - SDP

koyunlu - San Diego Padres:  Tony Gwynn, Ken Caminiti, Randy Jones, Kevin Brown, Jake Peavy, Mike Trout - LAA, Mark Loretta, John Valentin - BOS, Trevor Hoffman, Garrett Richards - LAA

tjefferson - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:  Pedro Martinez, Pascual Perez, Tim Raines, Gary Carter, Vladimir Guerrero, Dave Righetti - NYY, Jose Vidro, Carl Yastrzemski - BOS, Larry Walker, Adrian Beltre - BOS

marlowe - Seattle Mariners:  Ken Griffey, Jr., Alex Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez, Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Buster Posey - SFG, Ichiro Suzuki, Don Mattingly - NYY, Bret Boone, Andrew Bailey - OAK

tridentric - Philadelphia Phillies:  Chase Utley, Mike Schmidt, Ryan Howard, Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Bob Gibson - STL, Lenny Dykstra, Don Wilson - HOU, Billy Wagner, Lance Johnson - NYM

dvorr80 - Cincinnati Reds:  Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, HWMNBN, Johnny Cueto, Jose Rijo, Fritz Peterson - NYY, George Foster, Carlos Guillen - DET, Eric Davis, Don Sutton - HOU

shaybee - Atlanta Braves:  Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Kevin Millwood, Chipper Jones, Hank Aaron, Tim Burke - MON/WSH, Kris Medlen, Howard Johnson - NYM, Javy Lopez, Rheal Cormier - PHI

pumpkinmcp - New York Mets:  Dwight Gooden, Tom Seaver, Matt Harvey, Pedro Martinez, Carlos Beltran, Bobby Abreu - PHI, David Wright, Reggie Jackson - OAK, John Olerud, Edgar Renteria - STL

sinfonian11 - San Francisco Giants:  Barry Bonds, Willie McCovey, Jason Schmidt, Tim Lincecum, Juan Marichal, Mark Eichhorn - TOR, Kevin Mitchell, Rick Wilkins - CHC, Jeff Kent, Rafael Furcal - ATL

jose can u c - Boston Red Sox:  Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Derek Lowe, Fred Lynn, Wade Boggs, Curt Schilling - ARI, Nomar Garciaparra, Darrell Porter - KCR, Dustin Pedroia, Zane Smith - PIT

specsman - Chicago Cubs:  Derrick Lee, Sammy Sosa, Ryne Sandberg, Greg Maddux, Bruce Sutter, Barry Larkin - CIN, Jake Arrieta, Craig Kimbrel - ATL, Billy Williams, Andy Pettitte - HOU

llcoach - Kansas City Royals:  George Brett, Bret Saberhagen, Kevin Appier, Zack Greinke, Wade Davis, Jimmy Rollins - PHI, Johnny Damon, Andy Van Slyke - PIT, Greg Holland, Joe Nathan - MIN

schwarze - St. Louis Cardinals:  John Tudor, Adam Wainwright, Chris Carpenter, Albert Pujols, Joe Torre, David Cone - KCR, Ozzie Smith, Bernie Williams - NYY, Ted Simmons, Dellin Betances - NYY

buddhagamer - New York Yankees:  Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Paul O'Neill, Ron Guidry, Catfish Hunter, Rick Reuschel - PIT, Rickey Henderson, Jimmy Key - TOR, Mariano Rivera, Placido Polanco - DET

Robin4 - Los Angeles Dodgers:  Clayton Kershaw, Don Sutton, Kevin Brown, Mike Piazza, Adrian Beltre, Rich Aurillia - SFG, Matt Kemp, Will Clark - SFG, Odalis Perez, Dave Winfield - SDP

mllama54 - Oakland Athletics:  Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Mike Norris, Tim Hudson, Jason Giambi, Willie Wilson - KCR, Miguel Tejada, Roberto Alomar - TOR, Dennis Eckersley, Yadier Molina - STL

spoonfed - Houston Astros:  Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, Mike Scott, Larry Dierker, Roger Clemens, Mike Piazza - NYM, Craig Biggio, Troy Glaus - LAA, Richard Hidalgo, Mark McGwire - HOU



5/1/2015 3:56 PM (edited)
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4/17/2015 7:32 AM
mussopini23
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welcome back Jose!!!! Great to have you in the Leg again!!
4/17/2015 11:25 AM
jose can u c
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Well met, gentlemen.  Good to be back in the fold.

We'll have us some Boston Red Sox.

Smailing....
4/17/2015 12:55 PM
mussopini23
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I'm here, will be picking shortly - on a con call
4/17/2015 1:02 PM
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Please give me & hopefully I don't destroy them like I have been doing - the Minnesota Twins, I had some early early success with them a long time ago!
4/17/2015 1:34 PM
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sitemail sent
4/17/2015 1:45 PM
ff09
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One final try to finish .500 with Detroit Tigers
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Pirates please...
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