16 x 16, version 18 (Full) - Best Draft Ever Topic

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16 Players, 16 Seasons, Version 18 (Post-Expansion Era)
$120M Salary Cap
1961 - 2014 Seasons Only
NEW RULE --> YOU MUST USE YOUR NOMINATED PLAYER
He must meet or exceed his AB or IP to be playoff eligible*.

This is a 16 team league. Each owner will nominate 1 player that has played 16 seasons* or more in their career. Once all 16 players are announced, a draft order will be determined and each owner will draft a different season of each player nominated to be on their team. So all 16 teams will own the same 16 players, but each with a different version of that player. The other 9 rosters spots will be filled with teammates of your 16 drafted players.

* Note that if a player played 15 years, but played for 2 different teams in one season, that counts as 16 (you'll understand why after reading the remaining rules ). Also, since only years 1961-2014 are used in this version, the player must have 16 eligible seasons during this time frame. Example: if a player has 18 seasons (i.e., 1955-1971), but 6 of those seasons are 1955-1960, then he has only 12 eligible seasons and cannot be nominated. To determine number of player seasons, choose Pos = ALL, Min Games = 0, Check "Include Secondary Positions" and set Season Type = Full/Combined and years 1961-2014 (i.e., Jim Bunning has only 12 seasons for purposes of this league, 1961-71). Both teams of a multi-team player can be drafted (but you must choose the partial or combined season). 

A standard lineup will be used for nominations so we'll need C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF and 8 pitchers (at least 4 SP). For players who played more than one position, there will be some leeway on which position he qualifies at (i.e., Alex Rodriguez can be 3b or ss).

Upon signup, post your nominated player in the forum and site-mail me which of his seasons you are going to use.  For purposes of ranking the highest salaried seasons, players who played for 2+ teams, only one of those seasons counts in the rankings. I will choose my player after at least five players have been selected. Once all 16 players are chosen, I'll post the seasons selected and the draft order. We'll have a 15 round draft to select the other 15 seasons used for each player. Draft order for each round will be based on the cumulative salary going into that round (lowest salary drafts first).

* NEW RULE: The player you nominate must meet or exceed his AB/162 or IP/162 in order to be eligible for the playoffs.  If your team makes the playoffs and you fail to meet this rule, the team in your league (AL or NL) with the next best record, regardless of division will advance.  Exception: For batters who play 162 games, they automatically qualify as meeting the AB total regardless of what that total is.

Here's where it gets fun
The remaining 9 roster spots must be filled with teammates of your drafted/nominated players. They must be from the same season. No Twisting. Nominated players cannot be used as teammates. If you draft a player season with 2+ teams, you choose which version of that season you want, and can only take teammates from that team. (This is how a player who played 15 years, but had a multi-team season can be allowed. Or similarly, a player who played 14 years, w/ two multi-team seasons is allowed, etc.). There is no limit on number of teammates per drafted player. Many drafted players will not have any teammates rostered. Some will have two or more. Usually, your nominated player will have a few good teammate options.

Salary Cap = $120 million
Seasons - 1961-2014 only
No AAA
No WW
YES to DH
No Trades
No Clones
No Injuries
No Live Play
Any stadium
Random alignment

See the blacklist below. The blacklist includes any players taken in any previous 16x16 versions.  These players may still be teammates, they just can't be nominated.
5/12/2015 8:54 PM (edited)
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Owners List:
1. schwarze (Cesar Cedeno)
2. marlowe (Jeff Fassero)
3. mpitt76 (Davey Lopes)
4. mllama54 (Bret Saberhagen)
5. shysters3 (Reggie Jackson)
6. fatboydad54 (Rollie Fingers)
7. horus_6 (Jim Palmer)
8. calhoop (Alejandro Pena)
9. ejstockman (Mike Jackson)
10. brucel (Adrien Beltre)
11. ybjsports (Gaylord Perry)
12. slainte (Phil Niekro)
13. njbigwig (Cliff Floyd)
14. good_beef (Carlton Fisk)
15. Chisock (Keith Hernandez)
16. alice (Garry Templeton)

Wait List:
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2.

Site-mail List:
alice; brucel; calhoop; Chisock; ejstockman; good_beef; fatboydad54; horus_6; marlowe; mllama54; mpitt76; njbigwig; schwarze; shysters3; slainte; ybjsports

5/16/2015 1:06 PM (edited)
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Nominated Players List
(Bold indicates that the player's nominated season was site-mailed to me)

C: Carlton Fisk (22 seasons)
1B: Keith Hernandez (17 seasons)
2B: Davey Lopes (16 seasons)
3B: Adrien Beltre (17 seasons)
SS: Garry Templeton (17 seasons)
OF: Reggie Jackson (21 seasons)
OF: Cesar Cedeno (18 seasons)
OF: Cliff Floyd (17 seasons)
 
SP: Bret Saberhagen (16 seasons)
SP: Jim Palmer (18 seasons)
SP: Gaylord Perry (25 seasons)
SP: Phil Niekro (25 seasons)
S/R: Jeff Fassero (18 seasons) 
RP: Rollie Fingers (16 seasons)
RP: Alejandro Pena (16 seasons)
RP: Mike Jackson (16 seasons)
5/17/2015 9:21 AM (edited)
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BLACKLIST -
These are the guys you cannot nominate (they can be rostered as teammates though)
(players from this version added)

C:
Bench, Johnny
Berra, Yogi
Bresnahan, Roger
Burgess, Smoky
Dickey, Bill
Fisk, Carlton
Hartnett, Gabby
Mancuso, Gus
Pena, Tony
Porter, Darrell
Ruel, Muddy
Santiago, Benito
Schang, Wally
Torre, Joe

1B
Cash, Norm
Chase, Hal
Clark, Jack
Evans, Darrell
Foxx, Jimmie
Galarraga, Andres
Helton, Todd
Hernandez, Keith
Judge, Joe
McGirff, Fred
Olerud, John
Sisler, George
Thomas, Frank

2B
Alomar, Roberto
Biggio, Craig
Carew, Rod
Collins, Eddie
Franco, Julio
Frisch, Frankie
Gehringer, Charlie
Hornsby, Rogers
Kent, Jeff
Lopes, Davey
Morgan, Joe
Offerman, Jose
Schoendienst, Red

3B
Beltre, Adrian
Boggs, Wade
Brett, George
Caminiti, Ken
Cross, Lave
Dyk.es, Jimmy
Kell, George
Jones, Chipper
Martinez, Edgar
Mathews, Eddie
Nettles, Graig
Schmidt, Mike
Taylor, Terry
Wallach, Tim

SS
Bancroft, Dave
Campaneris, Bert
Cronin, Joe
Dahlen, Bill
Davis, George
Fregosi, Jim
Jeter Derek
Ripken Jr., Cal
Schofield Sr., Dick
Smith, Ozzie
Stephens, Vern
Templeton, Garry
Vizquel, Omar
Wagner, Honus

OF
Baines, Harold
Brown, Tom
Burks, Ellis
Cedeno, Cesar
Clarke, Fred
Cramer, Doc
Davis, Eric
Davis, Tommy
Davis, WIllie
Dawson, Andre
Delahanty, Ed
Fairly, Ron
Floyd, Cliff
Foster, George
Gonzalez, Luis
Goslin, Goose
Griffey Jr., Ken
Gwynn, Tony
Henderson, Rickey
Jackson, Reggie
Jamieson, Charlie
Keeler, Willie
Kingman, Dave
McGee, Willie
Medwick, Joe
Moses, Wally
Musial, Stan
Otis, Amos
Polonia, Luis
Raines, Tim
Ramirez, Manny
Ruth, Babe
Schulte, Frank
Sheckard, Jimmy
Sheffield, Gary
Slaughter, Enos
Snider, Duke
Speaker, Tris
Wheat, Zack
White, Rondell
Young, Robin

P
Adams, Babe
Alexander, Pete
Ames, Red
Andersen, Larry
Blue, Vida
Brown, Kevin
Bunning, Jim
Burba, Dave
Carlton, Steve
Clemens, Roger
Darwin, Danny
Dickson, Murry
Drabowsky, Moe
Eckersley, Dennis
Embree, Alan
Faber, Red
Fassero, Jeff
Feller, Bob
Fingers, Rollie
Fisher, Eddie
Fitzsimmons, Freddie
Ford, Whitey
Forsch, Bob
Gibson, Bob
Gooden, Dwight
Gordon, Tom
Gossage, Goose
Grove, Lefty
Gumpert, Harry
Guthrie, Mark
Haines, Jesse
Hawkins, LaTroy
Hershiser, Orel
Hoffman, Trevor
Hoyt, Waite
Hubbell, Carl
Isringhausen, Jason
Jackson, Grant
Jackson, Mike
Johnson, Randy
Johnson, Walter
Jones, Doug
Jones, Todd
Koosman, Jerry
Lamp, Dennis
Lowe, Derek
Luque, Dolf
Lyons, Ted
Maddux, Greg
Martinez, Pedro
Mathewson, Christy
Mays, Carl
McDaniel, Lindy
McGraw, Tug
McMahon, Don
Mercker, Kent
Mesa, Jose
Miller, Bob L. (57-74)
Miller, Stu
Millwood, Kevin
Moore, Earl
Morgan, Mike
Morris, Jack
Mulholland, Terry
Mussina, Mike
Nehf, Art
Niekro, Phil
Orosco, Jesse
Palmer, Jim
Pena, Alehandro
Pennock, Herb
Perry, Gaylord
Pizarro, Juan
Plank, Eddie
Plesac, Dan
Pollet, Howie
Quinn, Jack
Reardon, Jeff
Rhodes, Arthur
Rivera, Mariano
Rixey, Eppa
Roberts, Robin
Ruffing, Red
Ryan, Nolan
Saberhagen, Bret
Schilling, Curt
Seaver, Tom
Smith, Lee
Smoltz, John
Spahn, Warren
Staley, Gerry
Sutcliffe, Rick
Sutton, Don
Tavarez, Julian
Tiant, Luis
Timlin, Mike
Trucks, Virgil
Wakefield, Tim
Weyhing, Gus
Whitehill, Earl
Wilhelm, Hoyt
Witt, Bobby
Wynn, Early
Vance, Dazzy
Zachary, Tom
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5/12/2015 1:25 PM
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Sign up begins now
5/12/2015 1:30 PM
marlowe
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I'll join - player TBD
5/12/2015 1:33 PM
mpitt76
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nice - I'm in Davey Lopes
5/12/2015 6:21 PM (edited)
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In - TBD
5/12/2015 2:31 PM
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I'm in with Reggie Jackson--OF
5/12/2015 2:37 PM
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I will nominate P Rollie Fingers
5/12/2015 3:13 PM
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Quick Question - what if a player has like 700+ AB - there's a chance he won't hit that given the park, the strength of the lineup, etc... - is there a good faith clause like playing all 162 games or something like that...??


5/12/2015 6:25 PM
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I will go with Jeff Fassero - assuming I do not have to use one of his highest salaried years.
5/12/2015 6:31 PM (edited)
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Posted by mpitt76 on 5/12/2015 6:25:00 PM (view original):
Quick Question - what if a player has like 700+ AB - there's a chance he won't hit that given the park, the strength of the lineup, etc... - is there a good faith clause like playing all 162 games or something like that...??


Yes, I will put something in for that type of situation.
5/12/2015 7:11 PM
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I'm in player tbd
5/12/2015 7:50 PM
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