Pitch, hit, run, throw, catch. The more things change, the more things stay the same...

yes it is more specialized, but fundamentally more flawed than ever. Raw boned talent is rushed to the majors. Most are not prepared. Too many are learning the basics without the benefit of being groomed in the minors. Many experience their first failures at the top level. Enormous amounts of talent are wasted or never reach their potential. Immense pressures on organizations force their hands to win at all costs. Developing talent is not a strong suit of too many teams.

You have more power arms now. Better training, nutrition, and improved medicine has produced bigger, stronger athletes. So they throw harder, and power along with better bat speed aids the hitter. Now we have shortstops as strong as Mickey Mantle, and most teams have pitchers that throw as hard as Ryan, Johnson and Duren.

The exceptional are still few.

We are left to debate how Ruth and Cobb would fare against Pedro and deGrom, how Big Train and Feller would do facing a lineup with ARod, Tino and Jeter, and Sheffield as the DH...

great arguments, so many good points,,, the knowledge, strategy and tactics have changed a ton,,,as they should,,bullpen speciailists peds, but,,, if ty cobb played today,he would have worked out properly, etc... and still have been the strongest fastest player in the league, along w the babe and ted, course their eyesight ...

they say two things never change en histero, how fast u run and how hard u throw

Posted by d_rock97 on 8/29/2015 9:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 8/29/2015 4:54:00 PM (view original):
Even the finest of this generation get themselves out far more than most from years ago. Pujols in his first 7 or 8 seasons was an exception. Since then even he has greatly expanded his strikezone. I will agree that specialized pitching has improved pitching overall, but advanced scouting and video training has negated much of the pitcher's advantage. Hitting fundamentals is mostly a lost art. The lure of big contracts for power numbers is a real detriment to the game...now it is all about being on SportsCenter...

I'm trying to explain it the best I can but I guess I'm not good at that. It's the way I view the game. Yes technology has taken away pitchers advantage but I feel like it's worse for hitter. Hitters get a tenth of a second to decide whether or not to swing, they can expect pitches but that's only guessing. Pitchers know that Mike Trout has a .100 BA on low and inside pitches, a .400 BA on up and middle pitches. A .180 BA on sinkers, a .300 average on fastballs, and they can plan accordingly. (Those were made up facts) hitters can see that a pitcher throws a splitter 67% of the time on 1-2 counts but that's still guessing and they only get a tenth of a second to react while a pitcher can plan what he's gonna throw next for 20 seconds if the pitch clock ever comes in. But it's how I view the game. I see all the advantages technology gives pitchers nowadays that they didn't have way back. I see specialist and talent all over the world that they didn't have way back. It's how I see it

Actually....at 90 mph it's about .3 seconds, and I think I read that at 95 mph it's about .2 seconds, so nowhere near your .1 seconds  ;-)

www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/reactiontime.html

Posted by seamar_116 on 8/30/2015 5:36:00 AM (view original):

Posted by d_rock97 on 8/29/2015 9:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 8/29/2015 4:54:00 PM (view original):
Even the finest of this generation get themselves out far more than most from years ago. Pujols in his first 7 or 8 seasons was an exception. Since then even he has greatly expanded his strikezone. I will agree that specialized pitching has improved pitching overall, but advanced scouting and video training has negated much of the pitcher's advantage. Hitting fundamentals is mostly a lost art. The lure of big contracts for power numbers is a real detriment to the game...now it is all about being on SportsCenter...

I'm trying to explain it the best I can but I guess I'm not good at that. It's the way I view the game. Yes technology has taken away pitchers advantage but I feel like it's worse for hitter. Hitters get a tenth of a second to decide whether or not to swing, they can expect pitches but that's only guessing. Pitchers know that Mike Trout has a .100 BA on low and inside pitches, a .400 BA on up and middle pitches. A .180 BA on sinkers, a .300 average on fastballs, and they can plan accordingly. (Those were made up facts) hitters can see that a pitcher throws a splitter 67% of the time on 1-2 counts but that's still guessing and they only get a tenth of a second to react while a pitcher can plan what he's gonna throw next for 20 seconds if the pitch clock ever comes in. But it's how I view the game. I see all the advantages technology gives pitchers nowadays that they didn't have way back. I see specialist and talent all over the world that they didn't have way back. It's how I see it

Actually....at 90 mph it's about .3 seconds, and I think I read that at 95 mph it's about .2 seconds, so nowhere near your .1 seconds  ;-)

www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/reactiontime.html

Reminds me of that new NFL commercial. Richard, how fast is Fitzgerald going? Richard: 17.89 MPH answer:17.90 Teacher: Not even close

Posted by d_rock97 on 8/30/2015 6:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by seamar_116 on 8/30/2015 5:36:00 AM (view original):

Posted by d_rock97 on 8/29/2015 9:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 8/29/2015 4:54:00 PM (view original):
Even the finest of this generation get themselves out far more than most from years ago. Pujols in his first 7 or 8 seasons was an exception. Since then even he has greatly expanded his strikezone. I will agree that specialized pitching has improved pitching overall, but advanced scouting and video training has negated much of the pitcher's advantage. Hitting fundamentals is mostly a lost art. The lure of big contracts for power numbers is a real detriment to the game...now it is all about being on SportsCenter...

I'm trying to explain it the best I can but I guess I'm not good at that. It's the way I view the game. Yes technology has taken away pitchers advantage but I feel like it's worse for hitter. Hitters get a tenth of a second to decide whether or not to swing, they can expect pitches but that's only guessing. Pitchers know that Mike Trout has a .100 BA on low and inside pitches, a .400 BA on up and middle pitches. A .180 BA on sinkers, a .300 average on fastballs, and they can plan accordingly. (Those were made up facts) hitters can see that a pitcher throws a splitter 67% of the time on 1-2 counts but that's still guessing and they only get a tenth of a second to react while a pitcher can plan what he's gonna throw next for 20 seconds if the pitch clock ever comes in. But it's how I view the game. I see all the advantages technology gives pitchers nowadays that they didn't have way back. I see specialist and talent all over the world that they didn't have way back. It's how I see it

Actually....at 90 mph it's about .3 seconds, and I think I read that at 95 mph it's about .2 seconds, so nowhere near your .1 seconds  ;-)

www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/reactiontime.html

Reminds me of that new NFL commercial. Richard, how fast is Fitzgerald going? Richard: 17.89 MPH answer:17.90 Teacher: Not even close

.3 to .1 is a 67% difference, which is gigantic.  17.89 to 17.90 is a 0.055% difference, which is negligible in its context.  Not the same thing at all.