Big 12 Overall Team Ratings    Beginning Season #80

For years there were tracking threads like this for different conferences or just individual teams.
They use to provide interesting reading as well as a way of tracking progress, or decline, (gasp!), of whatever you wanted to look back at several seasons , years later.
This one will be a Big 12 thread, with some forecasting and observations on the conference as time goes by. 

This will also be a Jayhawk tracking thread to watch the progress, or lack of it, of the Kansas Jayhawks.

First recruiting class.

Mark White	Fr.	PG	91	81	35	78	17	47	81	70	89	50	69	30	C	738
Bryan Webber	Fr.	SF	60	57	36	78	25	56	62	49	47	80	70	65	C-	685
Louis McCoy	Fr.	SG	78	53	27	70	22	43	72	71	66	57	76	39	C-	674
Jordan Boudreau	Fr.	PF	79	38	89	91	87	76	22	47	46	35	59	38	C-	707
Vernon Anderson	Fr.	C	59	17	78	46	79	81	12	24	36	64	69	48	D+	613
James Schwind	Fr.	SF	75	60	49	91	16	48	85	51	48	41	45	33	C-	642

White is a 5* - #2 PG, which means the class must have been real weak.
He "should" finish around 825 and be just a good PG. Nothing spectacular at all but a good building block for the future.

Boudreau is a 5* - #7C,  His ath and spd are maxed but he should end near 100 in RB, Def, Blk, and about 85 LP. 
Those numbers will make him a pretty good Center and probably the best player of the class. Should end about 835.

Schwind was an ineligible who I offered a start and "luckily" only 10 minutes. He then qualified but was just going to be too good for me to cast him aside.
He will probably be one of the best players of the class. He was Canadian and at a distance to me, but the ineligible status kept interest low. His stam is 44 but High/high so it should be fine in a season or so. He will be the only player of the class who can shoot from outside.

McCoy 3* - #14sg, and Anderson 2* - #30C, are really back-up players on a really good team. The Jayhawks won't be that for several seasons so they may play alot more than I would like. They will both probably end up around 810 or so.

Webber #20sf, is ineligible and should be just a good defensive back-up player in his 5 seasons in Lawrence.

We are changing to Zone defense so we can run a short roster.  I believe Lawrence to be at the edge of the world for recruiting talent, However, with K-State being sim coached, and Iowa and Iowa State both being currently down somewhat, we may be able to get a foothold here in a short time and get going.

Conference (quick outlook).
more in depth coverage to follow (maybe).

"The Haves"
#1. Texas (A+) is just better than everyone else.
#2. Texas A&M (A) should be pretty good.
#3. Colorado (A) should be about the same.

"The Pack"
#4. Missouri (B+) could have a really good season.
#5. Oklahoma (A-) probably not quite as good as MU.
#6. Nebraska (B-) and Ok. State (B) , just below those two teams.

"The Have Nots"

Kansas, Texas Tech, Baylor, Iowa State, and Kansas State.
These 5 are in some stage of trying to get it going and move up the ladder.

After Further Review.

Colorado       12-4     20 - 6   
Missouri         10-6    18 -  8
Nebraska         9-7    15 -11
Kansas            6-10   12-14
Kansas State  3-13    5- 21
Iowa State      2-14     4- 22

Colorado is pretty good, has lots of upperclassmen and should handle the North pretty easily.
Mizzou is very young. Lots of talent but very young should make them good enough to finish strong and land in the #2 spot.
Nebraska has 6 upperclassmen, looks pretty solid on paper, and will give MU a run for 2nd in the North.
Kansas lands here by default. we are real young and just average at best. 
Kansas St. sim coached and recruited for 2 seasons will take it's toll. Tough OOC schedule will make them even look worse.
Iowa State lands here since they are very young and rebuilding. Rebuilding with a C- is tough and a slow process... I'm not picking on them... I just know how this will probably go for a few seasons.

South

Texas                14- 2   23- 3
Texas A&M      11- 5   20- 6 
Oklahoma        10 -6   18- 8
Okla. State       10- 6   18- 8
Texas Tech        5-11  11-15
Baylor                 4- 12    9- 17

Texas looks like a top-5 team to me. They are probably the class of the conference and should only drop a couple games if any.
A&M is pretty good, but young. I probably put them here due to their coach more than anything else... 
Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are pretty even on paper. I just don't see the 800+ (or 900), rated star players on these two that I see on the Texas teams.
Texas Tech is not too bad either. I just think the other 4 teams listed above them will find a way to win a few more games.
Baylor is young and their coach is just in his 2nd season. He does have a B- however and should be able to get them moving forward maybe a season or two faster than the lower teams in the North.

Overall Player Ratings

Players    900+     850+    800+

ACC            7          18         41
Pac 10        3          15         30
Big 10         3          12         21
Big East      3            8         18
Big 12         2            6         17
SEC            1            3           3

Lots of coaches say overall ratings don't matter. I tend to disagree.
If your overall rating is 800+ as a team, your going to be pretty decent.
If it's below 700 you are probably much more of a PIT team.
You will find that the ACC is hands down better than everyone else in Crum, Pac10 is second, the Big10 has 3-4 really good teams and the Big East has 2-3.
The overall rating can be misleading due to players having 95+ in durability and high WE which don't usually effect their playing ability, however... the 900+ rated player in D1 that is not a stud is very rare. It's just a default measuring stick.
If the Big12 can get that number of 800+ rated players up into the mid 20's, 

North Division

School	Coach	Conf. W-L	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Top 25 W-L	Last 10	STRK	RPI	SOS
#14 Colorado	cal_bears	0-0	9-1	2-0	7-1	2-0	8-1	L1	10	60
#18 Missouri	elmossle	0-0	9-1	3-1	6-0	1-0	9-0	W9	65	206
Kansas	zags27	0-0	7-3	1-1	6-2	0-1	6-3	L1	61	144
Nebraska	palmettobugs	0-0	5-5	0-0	5-5	0-0	4-5	W4	34	26
Iowa St.	ssssly01	0-0	3-7	3-4	0-3	0-0	3-6	W1	99	6
Kansas St.	Sim AI	0-0	2-8	2-4	0-4	0-3	2-7	L6	173	20

Not many surprises here so far.
Colorado lost their last game against Reinsel's abandoned Clemson squad, no shame there.
Elmo played a pretty easy schedule and rolled off 9 wins after a somewhat shocking loss to a sim the first game.
Kansas is maybe a top 100 RPI team by seasons end. The 61 right now is really probably an over-rate.
Buggs played a pretty solid schedule and is at 5-5. I think his 34 RPI is probably pretty close and he should pass us quickly.
Iowa state was sim, and therefore had lots of humans schedule them thinking somehow an easy win over a big6 sim would help them.
K-State is still sim and the same thing happened to them.
Therefore I-State and K State are going to have long seasons without any padding up front like some of us have.

South Division

School	Coach	Conf. W-L	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Top 25 W-L	Last 10	STRK	RPI	SOS
#17 Texas A&M	shucky	0-0	10-0	3-0	7-0	3-0	9-0	W10	18	102
#2 Texas	knappj	0-0	10-0	0-0	10-0	1-0	9-0	W10	8	58
Baylor	fredpaull	0-0	8-2	3-2	5-0	0-1	7-2	L1	122	245
Oklahoma	djbrewer0808	0-0	6-4	2-1	4-3	0-1	5-4	W1	110	189
Oklahoma St.	curtlynn88	0-0	6-4	4-3	2-1	0-1	5-4	W2	127	122
Texas Tech	luthien217	0-0	5-5	3-3	2-2	0-1	4-5	L2	138	111

School	Coach	Conf. W-L	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Top 25 W-L	Last 10	STRK	RPI	SOS
#17 Colorado	cal_bears	13-3	25-6	10-0	12-4	3-4	7-3	L1	17	58
#22 Missouri	elmossle	13-3	23-6	10-2	12-2	4-3	7-3	L1	21	56
Nebraska	palmettobugs	8-8	16-15	6-3	9-11	0-6	5-5	L1	49	43
Kansas	zags27	5-11	12-15	4-6	8-8	0-7	4-6	L1	95	74
Kansas St.	Sim AI	2-14	4-23	3-11	1-11	0-9	1-9	L7	204	33
Iowa St.	ssssly01	1-15	4-23	4-11	0-11	0-7	1-9	L3	229	51

School	Coach	Conf. W-L	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Top 25 W-L	Last 10	STRK	RPI	SOS
#2 Texas	knappj	13-3	29-5	8-0	15-3	7-3	8-2	L1	6	12
Oklahoma	djbrewer0808	12-4	20-10	10-1	8-7	3-6	6-4	L1	25	39
#14 Texas A&M	shucky	11-5	27-6	9-2	12-3	8-4	8-2	L1	14	27
Texas Tech	luthien217	7-9	15-16	10-4	4-11	3-5	6-4	L1	68	32
Oklahoma St.	curtlynn88	7-9	14-15	9-6	4-8	0-8	5-5	L2	99	67
Baylor	fredpaull	4-12	12-15	5-8	7-6	0-7	1-9	L1	133	91

1.	Texas A&M	12	86	64	57	93	51	59	59	66	64	62	77	62	C+	801
2.	Texas	12	87	63	57	84	48	65	67	66	70	53	69	61	C+	791
3.	Missouri	12	84	63	54	88	50	47	59	66	62	62	74	59	C+	769
4.	Oklahoma St.	12	67	59	46	69	37	58	60	54	60	67	75	64	C+	716
5.	Oklahoma	12	75	61	51	75	42	58	53	56	59	49	71	62	C	710
6.	Kansas	12	75	59	50	78	43	57	54	58	55	55	72	51	C	707
7.	Iowa St.	12	59	60	45	61	39	38	55	55	56	72	79	65	C+	684
8.	Colorado	11	83	56	51	77	43	45	47	49	52	48	69	62	C	707
9.	Baylor	12	77	57	41	77	38	47	50	49	48	69	72	56	C+	682
10.	Nebraska	12	50	59	42	57	36	53	60	60	65	70	72	56	C	680
11.	Kansas St.	12	65	54	47	68	45	61	50	48	61	54	72	46	C+	671
12.	Texas Tech	11	70	54	37	67	31	35	54	50	48	60	72	56	C+	654

The have's this season once again are A&M, Texas, & Mizzou.
Ok. State, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Colorado look to be in the middle.
Iowa State & Baylor are right there close to that level.
Nebraska, K State, are sim.
Texas Tech after a 7-9 con season last year is probably better than their numbers show.

900+ 850+ 800+ Total
ACC 4 10 32 46
P10 3 10 12 25
B10 0 10 10 20
BE 1 6 11 18
B12 2 6 10 18
SEC 2 4 11 17

School	Players	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
1.	Texas A&M	11	87	67	55	96	50	60	64	72	68	60	81	65	C+	824
2.	Texas	8	87	63	62	86	54	69	67	66	66	51	69	63	C+	803
3.	Missouri	9	91	61	59	92	56	47	56	65	59	59	76	62	C+	783
4.	Colorado	9	90	62	62	89	55	51	54	52	55	51	70	67	C	759
5.	Kansas	9	80	54	60	85	52	63	54	56	53	56	72	56	C	740
6.	Oklahoma St.	8	68	61	53	71	43	58	62	55	57	68	76	66	C+	737
7.	Baylor	11	82	59	47	87	44	55	48	49	50	72	76	61	C+	727
8.	Oklahoma	10	73	61	59	74	48	61	51	56	56	47	69	65	C	720
9.	Nebraska	10	50	57	53	60	45	62	57	60	61	76	75	59	C	716
10.	Iowa St.	7	55	49	60	58	53	48	51	51	56	75	79	64	C+	700
11.	Texas Tech	9	77	58	39	77	35	41	58	56	49	55	74	62	B-	680
12.	Kansas St.	7	62	57	46	67	40	58	48	46	61	56	76	50	C+	666

Numbers before recruiting.
A&M somehow dodged the EE plague and looks loaded for a very deep run.
Texas will be great, Mizzou and Colorado will be very good.
Those 4 continue to be the haves of the conference. Kansas had hoped to move into this group by this season, but lost our sophmore PG as an EE after going to the PIT. The kid was listed as staying all season. Really a dagger in our heart as we have to regroup and hope we can continue to climb forward the next couple seasons.
If losing one player hurts that bad then Kansas probably wasn't truly a part of the top 4-5 in the Big 12, maybe in a couple seasons we will be able to withstand the dreaded EE randomness and still be a legit force in the conference.
The middle of the conference is really the same 3-4 teams it has been with Oklahoma probably being the most solid. The other 3-4 of us are still trying to scratch out enough good players to be consistent NT players. The 3-4 sim teams continue to drift towards the bottom, looking for a coach to save them before it's too late.

Last 5 seasons: Total NT games played and S/16 or better:

A+ Texas 17-NT (1 - F/4, 1 - Title game)
A Tex A&M 13 ( E 8, S/16, S/16)
A- Colorado 11 ( S/16 )
A- Mizzou 8 ( S/16 )
A- Oklahoma 5
A- Kansas 4
We need a couple good coaches to take over the sims, and 2-3 more of us to help out the top 4 programs.