Rule V Leg #51 Draft Thread Topic

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Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender (the Cubs and Twins have won recently), and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 23rd, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.  Division alignment will be determined by the commissioner after team selection is complete.  We will attempt to keep divisions as close to real life as possible.  Geography will be the first factor, but we will also attempt to maintain traditional rivalries if possible.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2015) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first).  Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data.  Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA

No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2014
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.  The scumbag finally won a couple of championships.  Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

(Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King

Newest Entry: Alleyviper's Favorite Third Baseman of All Time (AFTBOAT) - Scott Rolen (has picked him at least four drafts)
1/23/2016 10:32 AM
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Player Draft Order.  Franchises that have been taken are marked in RED.

Worst-to-Best rankings (removing best & worst seasons)
Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 7 412 722 0.3633
2 D'backs 12 850 1094 0.4372
3 Tigers 22 1612 1952 0.4523
4 Pirates 20 1529 1711 0.4719
5 White Sox 11 841 941 0.4719
6 Rockies 13 1000 1106 0.4748
7 Twins 25 1957 2094 0.4831
8 Rangers 18 1412 1505 0.4841
9 Angels 21 1660 1742 0.4879
10 Orioles 25 1996 2055 0.4927
11 Blue Jays 28 2236 2301 0.4928
12 Brewers 25 2005 2048 0.4947
13 Mariners 31 2497 2526 0.4971
14 Expos 32 2585 2602 0.4984
15 Marlins 21 1698 1706 0.4988
16 Phillies 32 2602 2585 0.5016
17 Padres 26 2115 2097 0.5021
18 Indians 31 2523 2500 0.5023
19 Mets 30 2467 2394 0.5075
20 Giants 31 2559 2465 0.5094
21 Red Sox 32 2646 2539 0.5103
22 Reds 26 2150 2063 0.5103
23 Braves 31 2563 2459 0.5104
24 Cubs 23 1902 1824 0.5105
25 Royals 28 2330 2207 0.5136
26 Cardinals 32 2693 2492 0.5194
27 Yankees 28 2418 2118 0.5331
28 Dodgers 31 2683 2341 0.5340
29 A's 32 2782 2403 0.5365
30 Astros 32 2841 2344 0.5479
1/26/2016 5:30 AM (edited)
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Franchise Draft Order (timed Monday 1/25)
  1. spoonfed 48-114 .296                          Houston Astros*
  2. tridentric 55-107 .340                           Kansas City Royals*
  3. alice 62-100 .383                                 New York Mets*
  4. spikeboots 68-94 .420                         Oakland Athletics*
  5. mussopini23 69-93 .426                      Boston Red Sox*
  6. sinfonian11 76-86 .469                        Chicago Cubs*
  7. DoctorKz 78-84 .481                           Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals*
  8. Robin4 79-83 .488                               Seattle Mariners*
  9. newarkwilder 80-82 .494$                   Philadelphia Phillies*
  10. llcoach 81-81 .500                               St. Louis Cardinals*
  11. marlowe 84-78 .519                            Los Angeles Dodgers*
  12. specsman 84-78 .519                          Miami Marlins*
  13. shaybee 85-77 .525                             New York Yankees*
  14. jose can u c 85-77 .525                       Cleveland Indians*
  15. deathdealer 86-76 .531                       Pittsburgh Pirates*
  16. buddhagamer 88-74 .543                    Atlanta Braves*
  17. alleyviper 86-76 .531*                         Baltimore Orioles
  18. mllama54 91-71 .562*                         San Francisco Giants*
  19. dvorr80 92-70 .568*                            Milwaukee Brewers*
  20. pumpkinmcp 95-67 .586*                    San Diego Padres*
  21. rbow923 96-66 .593*                           Detroit Tigers*
  22. tjefferson 96-66 .593*                          Toronto Blue Jays*
  23. ff09 91-71 .562%                                 Cincinnati Reds*
  24. koyunlu 89-73 .549&                           Arizona Diamondbacks
* Second round keeper submitted. List for sitemailing: spikeboots; specsman; spoonfed; dvorr80; koyunlu; tridentric; ff09; marlowe; mussopini23; alleyviper; jose can u c; deathdealer; pumpkinmcp; tjefferson; DoctorKz; Robin4; llcoach; alice; shaybee; rbow923; buddhagamer; newarkwilder; mllama54; sinfonian11

Division Alignment (updated)

NL East: Phillies, Mets, Expos/Nats, Marlins
NL Central: Pirates, Braves, Cubs, Cardinals
NL West: Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Reds
AL East: Yankees, Red Sox, Orioles, Blue Jays
AL Central: Indians, Tigers, Brewers, Royals
AL West: Mariners, Athletics, Astros, D-Backs

2/3/2016 12:16 PM (edited)
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Player Draft First Round (timed Friday 1/29 all times EST)                              Off the Board
  1. koyunlu - Diamondbacks                 Rico Petrocelli - BOS
  2. rbow923 - Tigers                              Orel Hershiser - LAD
  3. deathdealer - Pirates                       Kevin Brown - LAD                         Los Angeles Dodgers
  4. alleyviper - Orioles                           Gaylord Perry - CLE
  5. tjefferson - Blue Jays                        Matt Harvey - NYM
  6. dvorr80 - Brewers                             Tim Hudson - OAK
  7. Robin4 - Mariners                             Johnny Bench - CIN
  8. DoctorKz - Expos/Nationals               Willie McCovey - SFG
  9. specsman - Marlins                           Carl Yastrzemski - BOS                 Boston Red Sox
  10. newarkwilder - Phillies                       Dallas Keuchel - HOU
  11. pumpkinmcp - Padres                       Jose Reyes - NYM                         New York Mets
  12. jose can u c - Indians                        Fritz Peterson - NYY
  13. alice - Mets                                        TSMOPOAT - HOU                         Houston Astros
  14. mllama54 - Giants                             Cole Hamels - PHI
  15. mussopini23 - Red Sox                     Mark McGwire - STL
  16. ff09 - Reds                                         Mike Norris - OAK                         Oakland Athletics
  17. buddhagamer - Braves                      Ozzie Smith - STL                         St. Louis Cardinals
  18. sinfonian11 - Cubs                             Barry Larkin - CIN                         Cincinnati Reds
  19. tridentric - Royals                               Tim Burke - MON/WSH
  20. llcoach - Cardinals                             Ichiro Suzuki - SEA
  21. shaybee - Yankees                            Mark Eichhorn - TOR
  22. marlowe - Dodgers                            Jim Thome - CLE                          Cleveland Indians
  23. spikeboots - Athletics                         Javy Lopez - ATL
  24. spoonfed - Astros                              Alan Trammell - DET
Player Draft Second Round  (timed Tuesday 2/2 all times EST)
  1. koyunlu - Diamondbacks                    Hideo Nomo - LAD
  2. rbow923 - Tigers                                 Paul O'Neill - NYY
  3. deathdealer - Pirates                          Fernando Valenzuela - LAD           Los Angeles Dodgers
  4. alleyviper - Orioles                              Eric Davis - CIN
  5. tjefferson - Blue Jays                          Carlton Fisk - BOS
  6. dvorr80 - Brewers                               Ted Simmons - STL
  7. Robin4 - Mariners                                JR Richard - HOU
  8. DoctorKz - Expos/Nationals                 Jimmy Rollins - PHI
  9. specsman - Marlins                             Kevin Appier - KCR
  10. newarkwilder - Phillies                         John Valentin - BOS                        Boston Red Sox
  11. pumpkinmcp - Padres                          Tony Phillips - DET
  12. jose can u c - Indians                           Bret Saberhagen - NYM
  13. alice - Mets                                           Jose Altuve - HOU                          Houston Astros
  14. mllama54 - Giants                                Bernie Williams - NYY                    New York Yankees
  15. mussopini23 - Red Sox                        Phil Niekro - ATL
  16. ff09 - Reds                                            Joe Torre - STL                               St. Louis Cardinals
  17. buddhagamer - Braves                        Pascual Perez - MON/WSH
  18. sinfonian11 - Cubs                              Doug Fister - DET                            Detroit Tigers
  19. tridentric - Royals                                 Max Scherzer - MON/WSH             Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals
  20. llcoach - Cardinals                               Craig Kimbrel - ATL                        Atlanta Braves
  21. shaybee - Yankees                              Kevin Mitchell - SFG
  22. marlowe - Dodgers                              Bobby Abreu - PHI                          Philadelphia Phillies
  23. spikeboots - Athletics                           Randy Jones - SDP
  24. spoonfed - Astros                                 Matt Williams - SFG                       San Francisco Giants
Player Draft Third Round (timed schedule Thursday 2/4)
  1. koyunlu - Diamondbacks                    AFTBOAT - STL
  2. rbow923 - Tigers                                 Roberto Alomar - BAL
  3. deathdealer - Pirates                          Billy Wagner - HOU
  4. alleyviper - Orioles                              Mariano Rivera - NYY
  5. tjefferson - Blue Jays                           Reggie Jackson - OAK
  6. dvorr80 - Brewers                                Rich Harden - OAK                        Oakland Athletics
  7. Robin4 - Mariners                                Bobby Murcer - NYY                     New York Yankees
  8. DoctorKz - Expos/Nationals                  Madison Bumgarner - SFG
  9. specsman - Marlins                              Manny Ramirez - LAD
  10. newarkwilder - Phillies                          Cesar Cedeno - HOU                    Houston Astros
  11. pumpkinmcp - Padres                          Carlos Carrasco - CLE
  12. jose can u c - Indians                           Roger Nelson - KCR
  13. alice - Mets                                           Miguel Tejada - BAL                     Baltimore Orioles
  14. mllama54 - Giants                                Gregg Jefferies - STL                   St. Louis Cardinals
  15. mussopini23 - Red Sox                        JJ Putz - SEA
  16. ff09 - Reds                                            Victor Martinez - DET
  17. buddhagamer - Braves                         Hong-Chih Kuo - LAD                  Los Angeles Dodgers
  18. sinfonian11 - Cubs                                Mark Melancon - PIT
  19. tridentric - Royals                                  Dee Gordon - MIA
  20. llcoach - Cardinals                                Koji Uehara - BOS
  21. shaybee - Yankees                               Billy Williams - CHC
  22. marlowe - Dodgers                               Sergio Romo - SFG                    San Francisco Giants
  23. spikeboots - Athletics                           Rafael Betancourt - CLE            Cleveland Indians
  24. spoonfed - Astros                                 Brian McCann - ATL

2/5/2016 11:34 PM (edited)
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List of keepers/draft picks

koyunlu - Arizona Diamondbacks: Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Luis Gonzalez, Miguel Montero, Paul Goldschmidt, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, AJ Pollock, Hideo Nomo - LAD, Daniel Hudson, AFTBOAT - STL

rbow923 - Detroit Tigers: Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Magglio Ordonez, Curtis Granderson, Miguel Cabrera, Orel Hershiser - LAD, Carlos Guillen, Paul O'Neill - NYY, Willie Hernandez, Roberto Alomar - BAL

deathdealer - Pittsburgh Pirates: Barry Bonds, Jay Bell, Freddie Sanchez, Andrew McCutchen, Brian Giles, Kevin Brown - LAD, Goose Gossage, Fernando Valenzuela - LAD, Rick Reuschel, Billy Wagner - HOU

alleyviper - Baltimore Orioles: Chris Hoiles, Brady Anderson, TSMOPPOAT, Mike Cuellar, Jim Palmer, Gaylord Perry - CLE, Todd Frohwirth, Eric Davis - CIN, Frank Robinson, Mariano Rivera - NYY

tjefferson - Toronto Blue Jays: Carlos Delgado, John Olerud, Jose Bautista, Tony Fernandez, Roger Clemens, Matt Harvey - NYM, Roy Halladay, Carlton Fisk - BOS, BJ Ryan, Reggie Jackson - OAK

dvorr80 - Milwaukee Brewers: Robin Yount, Ryan Braun, Teddy Higuera, Mike Caldwell, CC Sabathia, Tim Hudson - OAK, Paul Molitor, Ted Simmons - STL, Tommy Harper, Rich Harden - OAK

Robin4 - Seattle Mariners: Edgar Martinez, Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey, Jr., Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Johnny Bench - CIN, Cliff Lee, JR RIchard - HOU, Bret Boone, Bobby Murcer - NYY

DoctorKz - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals: Pedro Martinez, Vladimir Guerrero, Tim Raines, Gary Carter, Bryce Harper, Willie McCovey - SFG, Jose Vidro, Jimmy Rollins - PHI, Dennis Martinez, Madison Bumgarner - SFG

specsman - Miami Marlins: Hanley Ramirez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Cabrera, Kevin Brown, Jose Fernandez, Carl Yastrzemski - BOS, Mike Piazza, Kevin Appier - KCR, Dontrelle Willis, Manny Ramirez - LAD

newarkwilder - Philadelphia Phillies: Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Dallas Keuchel - HOU, Lenny Dykstra, John Valentin - BOS, Ken Giles, Cesar Cedeno - HOU

pumpkinmcp - San Diego Padres: Tony Gwynn, Ken Caminiti, Jake Peavy, Kevin Brown, Chris Young, Jose Reyes - NYM, Brian Giles, Tony Phillips - DET, Gene Tenace, Carlos Carrasco - CLE

jose can u c - Cleveland Indians: Kenny Lofton, Omar Vizquel, Roberto Alomar, Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez, Fritz Peterson - NYY, Sam McDowell, Bret Saberhagen - NYM, Victor Martinez, Roger Nelson - KCR

alice - New York Mets: Tom Seaver, Pedro Martinez, Dwight Gooden, Mike Piazza, John Olerud, TSMOPOAT - HOU, Bobby Bonilla, Jose Altuve - HOU, Lance Johnson, Miguel Tejada - BAL

mllama54 - San Francisco Giants: Barry Bonds, Buster Posey, Juan Marichal, Jason Schmidt, Tim Lincecum, Cole Hamels - PHI, Rich Aurillia, Bernie Williams - NYY, Jeff Kent, Gregg Jefferies - STL

mussopini23 - Boston Red Sox: Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe, Fred Lynn, Wade Boggs, Mark McGwire - STL, Nomar Garciaparra, Phil Niekro - ATL, Jacoby Ellsbury, JJ Putz - SEA

ff09 - Cincinnati Reds: Johnny Cueto, Tom Seaver, HWMNBN, George Foster, Joe Morgan, Mike Norris - OAK, Joey Votto, Joe Torre - STL, Aroldis Chapman, Victor Martinez - DET

buddhagamer - Atlanta Braves: Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Kevin Millwood, Chipper Jones, Hank Aaron, Ozzie Smith - STL, Gary Sheffield, Pascual Perez - MON/WSH, Kris Medlen, Hong-Chih Kuo - LAD

sinfonian11 - Chicago Cubs: Greg Maddux, Jake Arrieta, Derrek Lee, Sammy Sosa, Ryne Sandberg, Barry Larkin - CIN, Rick Wilkins, Doug Fister - DET, Bruce Sutter, Mark Melancon - PIT

tridentric - Kansas City Royals: David Cone, Bret Saberhagen, Zack Greinke, George Brett, Willie Wilson, Tim Burke - MON/WSH, Darrell Porter, Max Scherzer - MON/WSH, Carlos Beltran, Dee Gordon - MIA

llcoach - St. Louis Cardinals: John Tudor, Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright, Albert Pujols, Willie McGee, Ichiro Suzuki - STL, Matt Carpenter, Craig Kimbrel - ATL, Yadier Molina, Koji Uehara - BOS

shaybee - New York Yankees: Robinson Cano, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Ron Guidry, Catfish Hunter, Mark Eichhorn - TOR, Dave Righetti, Kevin Mitchell - SFG, Rickey Henderson, Billy Williams - CHC

marlowe - Los Angeles Dodgers: Adrian Beltre, Mike Piazza, Don Sutton, Zack Greinke, Clayton Kershaw, Jim Thome - CLE, Eric Gagne, Bobby Abreu - PHI, Matt Kemp, Sergio Romo - SFG

spikeboots - Oakland Athletics: Rickey Henderson, Jason Giambi, Mark McGwire, Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Javy Lopez - ATL, Miguel Tejada, Randy Jones - SDP, Dennis Eckersley, Rafael Betancourt - CLE

spoonfed - Houston Astros: Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, Mike Scott, Roger Clemens, Alan Trammell - DET, Don Sutton, Matt Williams - SFG, Moises Alou, Brian McCann - ATL


2/5/2016 11:34 PM (edited)
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I will take the Houston Astros
1/23/2016 2:12 PM
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sorry for the delay guys. thanks to Doc, I found out Dad is in Rule V now drafting. As he won't be out of the hospital until next week (hopefully), I guess I get the job. Just left the hospital and he wants:

Kansas City Royals

thanks again to Doc for the heads up

1/23/2016 6:54 PM
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sending keepers now
1/23/2016 6:57 PM
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New York Mets
1/23/2016 7:09 PM
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I site mailed next up!
1/23/2016 7:12 PM
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Posted by twfan on 1/23/2016 6:54:00 PM (view original):
sorry for the delay guys. thanks to Doc, I found out Dad is in Rule V now drafting. As he won't be out of the hospital until next week (hopefully), I guess I get the job. Just left the hospital and he wants:

Kansas City Royals

thanks again to Doc for the heads up

Oh, wow. Had no idea.  I'll include you on sitemails for the league until he's back up and running.  Send him our best wishes.  Hope all is well.
1/23/2016 7:17 PM
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Sounds like it was a serious car accident...hurry up and get well...thanks to Mack for stepping up to help out his old man...
1/23/2016 7:38 PM
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1/23/2016 8:07 PM
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I'll pick shortly
1/24/2016 3:07 PM
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I'll go with Red Sox
1/24/2016 3:10 PM
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