Sukow's 50M 4gotten Clone War Rosters/Evals Topic

Posted by uptowngbv on 2/12/2016 2:07:00 AM (view original):
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"I'm only a dolphin." The land shark
2/12/2016 2:58 PM
*Evils Evals* evaluations from a perennial losing owner *scratch that; I do have a title from 2004*

Hardened

- Wilt Chamberlain, Marcus Camby, Bobby Jones, Mark Price x2, Hassan Whiteside, Michael Redd

I think this team is hard to evaluate until you choose your backup SG. Bobby Jones is solid at SF, big time rebounding on the front court and you've given yourself the ability to use a variety of Wilt seasons. Maybe a weakness is passing, I like Price, but he isn't off the charts when it comes to assists. So overall you might be a bit weaker here. Also, correct me if I am wrong, but low on the free throw attempts?


98average

- LeBron James, Terry Porter, Amare Stoudamire, Tree Rollins x2, Draymond Green, Jose Calderon

I really love the passing on this team. The backcourt is so efficient which will really help out. I am curious as to one thing. I wonder what happens in the sim when your PF/C positions both foul out. Amare 3.1-3.7; Tree 3-4.1, that said any team with LeBron should make the playoffs. I just think you're doing a disservice by allowing teams to maybe keep it close from the line.


Samuelyork93

- Dennis Rodman, Alonzo Mourning, Rajon Rondo, Joe Dumars x2, Patrick Ewing, Dirk Nowitzki

I feel like your team dynamic was so solid, based on defense and then you went and drafted Dirk. I feel like he doesn't fit the team mould whatsoever. So you've got Rodman at SF at around 40 MPG. Rondo is solid assist wise, Dumars is solid defensively. Ewing and Mourning fit together nicely. To me Dirk here is a head scratcher. I think you noticed he wasn't gone and got excited about it.


Dh555

- Michael Jordan, Steve Nash, Elton Brand, Andrew Bogut x2, Anthony Mason, Jameer Nelson

Anthony Mason has that one really good season 01-02 where he is so effective at SF and gives you the little things. I am guessing that is the one you've chosen. Andrew Bogut was an interesting clone option, definitely out of the norm. I can tell there are backups still to be drafted for MJ and most likely the SF position, but there aren't any glaring weaknesses and obviously any MJ team is dangerous.


666ace

- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shawn Kemp, Mookie Blaylock, Eddie Jones x2, Chris Anderson, Clarence Weatherspoon

Interested to see who you use as the backups for Mookie and Weatherspoon. I think Eddie Jones isn't used too often in draft leagues, so a cool clone choice. Solid defense from the first three picks and Weatherspoon who I am guessing is the starting SF is also great in that area. As long as you've got the money to fill your backups with guys who don't bring down the key parts of the team, this will be one of the harder teams to score against.
2/12/2016 7:59 PM (edited)
I'm a little surprised Danny Green wasn't cloned, especially at a mid level $ cap.
2/12/2016 7:49 PM
To defend my dirk pick I needed to pick someone with a good amount of usage coming off the bench at the PF spot when either Zo or Ewing is on the bench and a particular partial season of Dirk has decent usage and a very low turnover rate. Yeah it hurts me defensively when he is on the court but my other players on my team can pick up that slack......hopefully lol
2/12/2016 9:46 PM
To answer the questions about my team:

I have over 90% assists in my starting lineup
Michael Redd is my back up at SG/SF
My starting lineup has 2000 FTA's

I know what my next picks are going to be...i think

2/12/2016 11:47 PM
Posted by hardened on 2/12/2016 11:47:00 PM (view original):
To answer the questions about my team:

I have over 90% assists in my starting lineup
Michael Redd is my back up at SG/SF
My starting lineup has 2000 FTA's

I know what my next picks are going to be...i think

Yeah I definitely didn't plug the right seasons in then lol! Toughest part with evaluating.
2/12/2016 11:54 PM
Posted by uptowngbv on 2/12/2016 7:49:00 PM (view original):
I'm a little surprised Danny Green wasn't cloned, especially at a mid level $ cap.
I thought about doing just that, but Green doesn't that play many minutes.
2/14/2016 12:37 AM
Posted by roadhouse19 on 2/14/2016 12:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by uptowngbv on 2/12/2016 7:49:00 PM (view original):
I'm a little surprised Danny Green wasn't cloned, especially at a mid level $ cap.
I thought about doing just that, but Green doesn't that play many minutes.
That's why he's a good clone. You don't really want more than 48 minutes of him. He doesn't rebound well enough to play SF. Just going on memory, but I think he has a few seasons right around 24 mins. Using 2 of them would be the way to go
2/14/2016 1:58 AM
Is it better to use the clone to fill one spot entirely or to fill two starting spots?
2/14/2016 5:41 AM
Posted by masterdebate on 2/14/2016 5:41:00 AM (view original):
Is it better to use the clone to fill one spot entirely or to fill two starting spots?
I'd say it depends on your draft position and your overall strategy.
2/14/2016 11:11 AM
Yeah, originally I wasn't sure if I'd spread Ray Allen, in the end I thought it was best to double him up at one spot. I am guessing most guys could have easily gone both ways and been successful.
2/14/2016 11:40 AM
PG

Avery Johnson 92-93 15.9 USG 33.2 AST% 55 DEF @ 25 MPG
Jeff Hornacek 87-88 15.3 USG 26.8 AST% 38 DEF @ 23 MPG

SG

Ray Allen 00-01 24.5 USG 55.7 14.6 Creb% 15.2 AST% 50 DEF @ 38 MPG
Ray Allen 02-03 27.9 USG 51.1 15.0 Creb% 19.5 AST% 40 DEF@ 10 MPG

SF

Andrei Kirilenko 05-06 20.6 USG 48.5 7.1 17.8 = 24.9 Creb% 16.6 Ast% 100 DEF @ 32 MPG
James Johnson 14-15 17.4 USG 60.3 4.8 15.5 = 20.3 Creb% 8.9 Ast% 82 DEF @ 16 MPG

PF

Ben Wallace 02-03 10.3 USG 48.8 11.3 32.7 = 44.0 Creb% 100 DEF @ 35 MPG
Kim Hughes 78-79 9.9 USG 53.8 10.7 20.3 = 31 Creb% 80 DEF @ 13 MPG

C

Artis Gilmore 72-73 19.6 USG 56.0 12.9 28.7 = 41.6 Creb% 80 DEF @ 42 MPG
Joey Dorsey 10-11 14.4 USG 52.5 16.6 24.3 = 40.9 Creb% 54 DEF @ 6 MPG
Hamed Haddadi 11-12 17.8 USG 54.2 14.5 23.3 = 37.8 Creb% 87 DEF @ bench


*team strengths*
- rebounding
- fouls
- blocks

*team weaknesses*
- turnovers
- lack of 3's
- free throw %

I am happy with this. I shouldn't second guess my Ray Allen selection.
2/16/2016 10:35 AM
Posted by omegax on 2/16/2016 10:35:00 AM (view original):
PG

Avery Johnson 92-93 15.9 USG 33.2 AST% 55 DEF @ 25 MPG
Jeff Hornacek 87-88 15.3 USG 26.8 AST% 38 DEF @ 23 MPG

SG

Ray Allen 00-01 24.5 USG 55.7 14.6 Creb% 15.2 AST% 50 DEF @ 38 MPG
Ray Allen 02-03 27.9 USG 51.1 15.0 Creb% 19.5 AST% 40 DEF@ 10 MPG

SF

Andrei Kirilenko 05-06 20.6 USG 48.5 7.1 17.8 = 24.9 Creb% 16.6 Ast% 100 DEF @ 32 MPG
James Johnson 14-15 17.4 USG 60.3 4.8 15.5 = 20.3 Creb% 8.9 Ast% 82 DEF @ 16 MPG

PF

Ben Wallace 02-03 10.3 USG 48.8 11.3 32.7 = 44.0 Creb% 100 DEF @ 35 MPG
Kim Hughes 78-79 9.9 USG 53.8 10.7 20.3 = 31 Creb% 80 DEF @ 13 MPG

C

Artis Gilmore 72-73 19.6 USG 56.0 12.9 28.7 = 41.6 Creb% 80 DEF @ 42 MPG
Joey Dorsey 10-11 14.4 USG 52.5 16.6 24.3 = 40.9 Creb% 54 DEF @ 6 MPG
Hamed Haddadi 11-12 17.8 USG 54.2 14.5 23.3 = 37.8 Creb% 87 DEF @ bench


*team strengths*
- rebounding
- fouls
- blocks

*team weaknesses*
- turnovers
- lack of 3's
- free throw %

I am happy with this. I shouldn't second guess my Ray Allen selection.
Your biggest weakness is 48 minutes of being in the usage penalty.
2/19/2016 8:20 AM
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