New Salaries - Analysis Topic

Like I did three months ago, I will post some analysis on this forum on the new salaries. As far as I can tell, the salaries have not yet been updated.
6/7/2016 8:18 AM
New Salary update will begin at Noon ET today. Should take less than one hour.
6/7/2016 8:44 AM
New salaries are now live!
6/7/2016 12:24 PM
Here are the results of the new update.

Hitters:
12,520 increases
35,661 decreases
317 same (all 200K)

Pitchers:
8,218 increases
26,764 decreases
22 same (all 200K)

Compare this to last update...

Hitters:
10,348 increases
37,482 decreases
668 same (all 200K)

Pitchers:
5,694 increases
29,185 decreases
125 same (all 200K)
6/7/2016 1:32 PM (edited)
Here are the top 30 percentage increases for batters.
%Diff1 represents the increase over February's salary.
%Diff2 represents the increase over the original salaries.

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Player Orig Salary_____ Feb Salary_____ June Salary_____ %Diff1___ %Diff2___
2013 Michael Young 202,934 215,667 237,233 10.0% 16.9%
1992 Bip Roberts 4,397,784 4,837,562 5,274,291 9.0% 19.9%
1911 Ty Cobb 12,571,648 13,755,639 14,928,436 8.5% 18.7%
1927 Lou Gehrig 13,669,251 14,973,369 16,206,476 8.2% 18.6%
1901 Nap Lajoie 14,143,902 15,558,292 16,825,698 8.1% 19.0%
1980 George Brett 9,306,245 10,236,870 11,061,994 8.1% 18.9%
1989 Howard Johnson 5,387,622 5,926,384 6,402,699 8.0% 18.8%
1956 Mickey Mantle 12,302,747 13,122,464 14,040,639 7.0% 14.1%
1886 King Kelly 10,629,733 11,591,130 12,395,651 6.9% 16.6%
1921 Babe Ruth 17,817,715 19,160,938 20,476,312 6.9% 14.9%
1923 Babe Ruth 17,302,114 18,575,156 19,792,044 6.6% 14.4%
1924 Rogers Hornsby 13,189,968 14,238,801 15,160,793 6.5% 14.9%
1894 Hugh Duffy 13,583,300 14,542,722 15,482,472 6.5% 14.0%
1941 Ted Williams 12,722,311 13,681,636 14,547,670 6.3% 14.3%
1987 Vince Coleman 4,240,214 4,585,196 4,857,264 5.9% 14.6%
1975 Joe Morgan 8,554,511 9,013,580 9,546,329 5.9% 11.6%
1980 Miguel Dilone 4,387,671 4,805,975 5,078,129 5.7% 15.7%
1899 John McGraw 8,398,716 8,988,009 9,490,753 5.6% 13.0%
2003 Wilson Delgado 249,592 268,281 283,278 5.6% 13.5%
2009 Ben Zobrist 4,669,972 5,011,712 5,283,435 5.4% 13.1%
1985 Willie McGee 7,137,439 7,543,396 7,946,403 5.3% 11.3%
1887 Tip O'Neill 13,180,054 14,018,266 14,754,232 5.3% 11.9%
1977 Tim Foli 235,490 250,242 263,214 5.2% 11.8%
1997 Mike Piazza 7,909,554 8,318,437 8,746,369 5.1% 10.6%
1935 Jimmie Foxx 8,633,433 9,055,378 9,517,034 5.1% 10.2%
1999 Domingo Cedeno 200,000 200,000 209,780 4.9% 4.9%
2004 Barry Bonds 16,437,619 17,379,816 18,204,454 4.7% 10.7%
1935 Arky Vaughan 9,298,919 9,850,240 10,316,313 4.7% 10.9%
1981 Tim Raines 4,267,085 4,499,385 4,708,563 4.6% 10.3%
2006 Joe Mauer 6,584,624 6,868,994 7,182,211 4.6% 9.1%
6/7/2016 1:34 PM (edited)
Here are the top 30 percentage increases for pitchers.
%Diff1 represents the increase over February's salary.
%Diff2 represents the increase over the original salaries.

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Player Orig Salary_____ Feb Salary_____ June Salary_____ %Diff1___ %Diff2___
1908 Addie Joss 12,778,253 14,056,078 15,461,686 10.0% 21.0%
1990 Dennis Eckersley 4,293,010 4,722,311 5,194,542 10.0% 21.0%
1995 Greg Maddux 10,842,285 11,926,514 13,119,165 10.0% 21.0%
1918 Fred Toney 4,203,375 4,623,712 5,086,083 10.0% 21.0%
2003 Eric Gagne 5,463,221 6,009,543 6,604,919 9.9% 20.9%
1888 Elton Chamberlain 6,153,872 6,769,259 7,399,457 9.3% 20.2%
1967 Cisco Carlos 1,938,932 2,102,812 2,274,928 8.2% 17.3%
2000 Pedro Martinez 11,707,138 12,877,852 13,923,394 8.1% 18.9%
2012 Craig Kimbrel 3,884,821 4,268,537 4,604,418 7.9% 18.5%
1918 Jake Northrop 2,234,464 2,394,943 2,574,235 7.5% 15.2%
1919 Art Nehf 3,880,829 4,217,095 4,501,501 6.7% 16.0%
1988 Bob Milacki 1,231,122 1,327,369 1,416,120 6.7% 15.0%
2010 Hong-Chih Kuo 3,398,795 3,677,746 3,922,736 6.7% 15.4%
1968 Bob Gibson 12,216,556 12,894,242 13,732,391 6.5% 12.4%
2013 Koji Uehara 4,701,441 4,992,537 5,316,338 6.5% 13.1%
1914 Dutch Leonard 8,905,191 9,585,211 10,193,405 6.3% 14.5%
1910 Ed Walsh 15,524,600 16,396,300 17,342,094 5.8% 11.7%
1915 Pete Alexander 16,221,577 17,348,634 18,308,834 5.5% 12.9%
1987 Jack McDowell 1,160,846 1,196,953 1,261,642 5.4% 8.7%
2015 Jake Arrieta 10,006,100 10,091,431 10,605,735 5.1% 6.0%
1908 Elmer Steele 3,799,703 4,054,701 4,261,011 5.1% 12.1%
2008 Mariano Rivera 3,784,493 4,010,451 4,214,095 5.1% 11.4%
1992 Dennis Rasmussen 1,488,414 1,573,194 1,649,793 4.9% 10.8%
1916 Ferdie Schupp 6,048,685 6,379,390 6,689,609 4.9% 10.6%
1999 Billy Wagner 4,314,571 4,551,975 4,771,824 4.8% 10.6%
1915 Tim McCabe 1,476,708 1,572,607 1,646,967 4.7% 11.5%
2015 Joba Chamberlain 200,000 200,000 209,456 4.7% 4.7%
2009 Mike Adams 2,569,430 2,716,583 2,843,126 4.7% 10.7%
1915 Cy Falkenberg 1,737,305 1,809,969 1,894,130 4.6% 9.0%
2015 Zack Greinke 9,612,768 9,698,330 10,144,881 4.6% 5.5%
6/7/2016 1:34 PM (edited)
One problem that is obvious. In one or two more updates, there will no longer be any $200K players. I think admin needs to change the logic to force a minimum of X number of $200K players, regardless of what the formula says. The other option would be to allow players to drop below 200K.
6/7/2016 1:33 PM
Looking at both updates...

Hitters:
Increased Twice: 7,437
Decreased Twice: 32,749

Pitchers:
Increased Twice: 4,338
Decreased Twice: 25,408
6/7/2016 1:46 PM
I'm not sure why no $200K players would be a problem. Maybe you change some of the verbiage for theme leagues (instead of "any $200K players", you say "any < $300K players".... Or you have to allocate $2M to fill the lower dregs of your team rather than $1.2M.
6/7/2016 2:10 PM
Regardless of theme rules, many people will fill out their roster with the cheapest players available. As a result, the remaining 200K players will continue to be overused and see their salaries increase. The resulting decrease in players slightly over 200K will not come down as fast, ultimately eliminating all 200K players.
6/7/2016 2:14 PM
Thanks for sharing this good work schwarze. Agree with your comments in post immediately above this one.
6/7/2016 3:13 PM
good work, schwarze.
6/7/2016 6:54 PM
Posted by schwarze on 6/7/2016 2:14:00 PM (view original):
Regardless of theme rules, many people will fill out their roster with the cheapest players available. As a result, the remaining 200K players will continue to be overused and see their salaries increase. The resulting decrease in players slightly over 200K will not come down as fast, ultimately eliminating all 200K players.
I'm not totally sure this is necessarily a bad thing. Bottom salary should be the "worst of the worst" and unless you are hurting for cash it might be more cost effective to spend an extra $10K on a guy who's much better, especially in leagues without AAA.

Although I can see a simple requirement that there be a player at 200K at every offensive position (possibly including 3 OFs), and perhaps 3-4 pitchers minimum, as you suggest, being useful. But I don't see an issue with the general decrease in quality of pure 200K options.
6/7/2016 7:34 PM
what was the biggest drop ?
6/8/2016 9:17 AM
Posted by clk0619 on 6/8/2016 9:17:00 AM (view original):
what was the biggest drop ?
I'd like to know that too. If I knew where to find the original salaries in a spreadsheet I could figure it out.
6/8/2016 9:29 AM
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