Posted by jfranco77 on 6/8/2016 9:29:00 AM (view original):

Posted by clk0619 on 6/8/2016 9:17:00 AM (view original):
what was the biggest drop ?

I'd like to know that too. If I knew where to find the original salaries in a spreadsheet I could figure it out.

The original and first iteration of dynamic pricing salary spreadsheets are no longer downloadable (though they probably should be).

If you want me to send you a spreadsheet with all the salaries (original, Feb, June), site-mail me your e-mail address.

The salary drops are all around 0.2% per hitter and 0.1% per pitcher. This is typical as there are so many more players with decreases than with increases. The overall total salary of all hitters and all pitchers remain about the same.

Here are the top absolute salary drops for hitters and pitchers...
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HITTERS

Player	Feb Salary_____	June Salary_____	Salary Diff_____	%Diff1___
1895 Mike Griffin	8,563,563	8,544,161	-19,402	-0.2%
1885 Pete Browning	8,440,076	8,420,953	-19,123	-0.2%
1887 Roger Connor	7,822,146	7,804,423	-17,723	-0.2%
1944 Tommy Holmes	7,384,724	7,367,992	-16,732	-0.2%
1893 Elmer Smith	7,133,051	7,116,889	-16,162	-0.2%
1886 Tip O'Neill	7,015,472	6,999,577	-15,895	-0.2%
1940 Frank McCormick	6,957,775	6,942,011	-15,764	-0.2%
1900 Jesse Burkett	6,875,039	6,859,462	-15,577	-0.2%
1919 Tris Speaker	6,820,376	6,804,923	-15,453	-0.2%
1957 Red Schoendienst	6,792,186	6,776,797	-15,389	-0.2%
1960 Hank Aaron	6,788,561	6,773,180	-15,381	-0.2%
1890 Jack Glasscock	6,767,041	6,751,709	-15,332	-0.2%
1887 Oyster Burns	6,706,961	6,691,765	-15,196	-0.2%
1893 Jesse Burkett	6,641,628	6,626,580	-15,048	-0.2%
1923 Jimmy Johnston	6,634,835	6,619,802	-15,033	-0.2%
1935 Red Rolfe	6,632,510	6,617,482	-15,028	-0.2%
1888 Curt Welch	6,603,478	6,588,516	-14,962	-0.2%
1886 Curt Welch	6,575,031	6,560,134	-14,897	-0.2%
1897 Mike Griffin	6,530,564	6,515,767	-14,797	-0.2%
1893 Steve Brodie	6,504,228	6,489,491	-14,737	-0.2%

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PITCHERS

Player	Feb Salary_____	June Salary_____	Salary Diff_____	%Diff1___
1887 John Clarkson	21,354,722	21,327,294	-27,428	-0.1%
1887 Tim Keefe	20,807,558	20,780,832	-26,726	-0.1%
1885 Hardie Henderson	20,560,822	20,534,412	-26,410	-0.1%
1887 Matt Kilroy	20,549,892	20,523,496	-26,396	-0.1%
1885 Charley Radbourn	19,598,460	19,573,288	-25,172	-0.1%
1887 Toad Ramsey	19,461,376	19,436,380	-24,996	-0.1%
1895 Pink Hawley	18,926,670	18,902,360	-24,310	-0.1%
1885 Bobby Mathews	18,441,506	18,417,820	-23,686	-0.1%
1890 Sadie McMahon	17,283,058	17,260,858	-22,200	-0.1%
1890 Sadie McMahon	17,277,988	17,255,796	-22,192	-0.1%
1893 Amos Rusie	17,245,524	17,223,374	-22,150	-0.1%
1893 Frank Killen	16,666,733	16,645,326	-21,407	-0.1%
1886 Guy Hecker	16,589,420	16,568,112	-21,308	-0.1%
1885 Dupee Shaw	16,271,325	16,250,426	-20,899	-0.1%
1885 Henry Boyle	16,104,839	16,084,153	-20,686	-0.1%
1886 Tony Mullane	16,026,263	16,005,678	-20,585	-0.1%
1888 Jersey Bakely	15,910,221	15,889,785	-20,436	-0.1%
1886 Mickey Welch	15,881,134	15,860,736	-20,398	-0.1%
1887 Phenomenal Smith	15,689,299	15,669,147	-20,152	-0.1%
1894 Jouett Meekin	15,555,251	15,535,271	-19,980	-0.1%

Very nice. Thanks WIS (and thanks schwarze). Didn't see Tim Raines 1986, miss him?

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't understand how salaries were affected for those high-salaried players not so often picked in Open Leagues. Ty Cobb 1911 for example. He wasn't picked that often in OL's compared with Howard Johnson what 1989 and Bip Roberts is it 1992, right?

The changes are based on site-wide usage. All caps are in play

the top drops are so minor will take a long time to get those players used more i think

Posted by clk0619 on 6/9/2016 8:14:00 AM (view original):
the top drops are so minor will take a long time to get those players used more i think

It's more a case of them starting to be a lot lower than their competition. They stood still while others increased 20%.

Posted by jfranco77 on 6/9/2016 8:26:00 AM (view original):

Posted by clk0619 on 6/9/2016 8:14:00 AM (view original):
the top drops are so minor will take a long time to get those players used more i think

It's more a case of them starting to be a lot lower than their competition. They stood still while others increased 20%.

This.

I'll be surprised if anyone uses 1989 HoJo now, and if they do I think it puts them at a severe disadvantage. The way I evaluate players, he's no longer in the top 100 shortstops I would consider in an OL.

I expect this is true of cookies across the board...after 2 updates, those who have been used most frequently have seen their salaries increase by ~20%. I don't think any of them were underpriced by 20% to begin with (some may have been 10% underpriced, like Joss). I expect in the next update we will see a very different set of players on the "greatest increase" list.

Posted by jfranco77 on 6/9/2016 8:26:00 AM (view original):

Posted by clk0619 on 6/9/2016 8:14:00 AM (view original):
the top drops are so minor will take a long time to get those players used more i think

It's more a case of them starting to be a lot lower than their competition. They stood still while others increased 20%.

didnt think of it that way i was just wondering how long it will take to be able to use the old clarkson superman strategy

Schwarze, instead of emailing spreadsheets, could you kindly upload the data to docs.google and share the link with everyone? That would be great for the original, first update, and current prices. I tried myself to upload the data but couldn't figure out how. The data seems messy for me, but I'm sure you're more capable.

well I guess I will never be using some of these guys (Ruth, Joss etc) in any but 255mil leagues anymore.

My more or less regular $255 million team is now $269 million. Not much fat to trim. Guess those days are gone forever.