ZPL (Progressive re-start) Draft season poll Topic

Posted by ashamael on 7/18/2016 7:18:00 PM (view original):
if Zizzo is indeed running this, I'd like to get in at the start for once & not take over someone's team!
Yes, I am running it Ash. Great to have you in the league.
7/19/2016 8:02 AM (edited)
Posted by benhoidal on 7/18/2016 6:50:00 PM (view original):
Are the divisions geographically relevant or is the first season random?
Divisions will be geographically relevant. In the event an owner moves a franchise they will not change divisions (I think it effects the theoretical natural balance of the divisions/conferences and it's a pain for me to deal with on the stat keeping end).
7/19/2016 8:00 AM
Posted by midzim on 7/18/2016 7:24:00 PM (view original):
I would like to join if a spot is open.
Yep we still have a few open spots. Welcome aboard!
7/19/2016 8:03 AM
I would like to keep the "Lakers" team name.
7/20/2016 2:08 PM
....and not skip the 70's. But you know that...lol. It's the 80's & early 90's that are problematical wrt player mins. 1970-1976 have plenty of minutes until the merger..then minute become an issue until the mid 90's.
7/20/2016 2:17 PM
DRAFT RULES
  • All Times listed are Eastern Standard Time.
  • Do NOT pick before you're time slot unless ALL picks before you have already been made.
  • Do NOT post open proxy lists.
    • If you will not be available during your time slot send a proxy pick to the person(s) selecting after you.
    • I AM USUALLY AVAILABLE TO POST PROXIES.
  • PLEASE SITEMAIL THE NEXT TWO OWNERS SELECTING AFTER YOU once you have made your selection so we can keep the draft running and hopefully avoid any skips.
TRADES
  • Trades are always welcome, however are subject to review by the commissioner to ensure fairness to both parties and the league as a whole.
  • Please post any trades in the draft forum so that all owners can see them.
  • If you make an uneven trade (2 for 1, 3 for 2 etc.) keep in mind the team that gains a player will essentially lose a draft pick. Do NOT make an uneven trade if it will cause your roster to go over the maximum allowed active player total of 12.
  • Trades involving draft picks can only include the current draft and following draft year.
  • ALL TRADES MUST BE FAIR TO BOTH PARTIES AND STAND ON THEIR OWN MERIT i.e. RENT-A-PLAYER TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED
KEEPERS
  • YOUR KEEPER ROSTER WILL BE FROZEN ONCE THE FIRST ON THE CLOCK SELECTION IS MADE.
  • YOU MUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE MADE A CHANGE TO YOUR KEEPER LIST AFTER YOU POSTED.
  • In addition, you cannot change your draft needs unless it is done via a trade. You will not be permitted to hold onto players, thus keeping them from being on the "available players" list, then dropping them when someone on the draft board is more to your liking. You can however drop any player(s) that have been on your roster for 1 entire season for any undrafted player(s) once the draft is completed. You cannot dump players if you are under 19,000 total team minutes unless you are adding minutes.
  • Some teams don't need their 1st or 2nd round picks because their rosters are full. However, the draft choices are still valuable commodities that may be traded for next season's draft picks or players, etc. For that reason, picks will not be deleted from the draft schedule - even if no one uses them. That way, if there is a last minute trade made involving those picks, no one is able to pass them until their draft windows expire. Once the draft window expires and your roster is full that pick no longer can be used.
  • After ALL teams have completed their draft you may drop any player(s) that have been on your roster for 1 entire season for any undrafted player(s) once the draft is completed. It will be first come - first serve for these undrafted players AKA free agents. You must post who your taking and dropping in the draft forum.
    • The reasoning is we don't want an owner drafting a player, then cutting him after the draft in exchange for another player as it prevents that player from potentially be drafting and kept by another owner. Basically you drafted the player for a reason so use him. There's only been a few players that have been acquired in this way. We don't anticipate any problems with this as the undrafted players went undrafted for a reason.
LOTTERY INFO
  • Again we will use the New York lottery system. It's basically a keno draw where 20 random numbers are chosen between 1-80. There are 351 draws - every four minutes starting at Midnight and ending at 11:56 PM. We will select one days worth of drawings. Each team will be assigned a certain amount of drawings (time specific). The number of drawings each team will receive is closely based on the actual NBA lottery percentages circa 1996 (details can be found in the draft lottery times) based on each teams respective 2014-15 regular season record. Then once ALL the NY lottery selections have been made I'll add up each set of twenty numbers and the team with lowest combined total wins the 1st draft spot and so on. In the event of a tie I will compare each set of numbers starting with the lowest number in each selected set until one team wins. For example if two teams have a total of 621 and one set of the lowest numbers is (1, 2, 4, 7, 12 etc.) and another group has (1, 2, 3, 8, 14 etc.) the 1's cancel out, the 2's cancel out, and the 3 is lower than 4 so the 1, 2, 3, 8, 14 etc. set of numbers wins. I'm sure this sounds confusing but it's actually pretty simple. Again the advantage to using this system is we get the lottery selection process done in one day - speeding up the draft and giving owners more time to make trades and analyze the players in draft - plus there is no dispute like there could be using something like random.org.
  • Once the lottery selections have been determined that owner may pick at any time and so on without skipping other owners.
  • Draft times will be posted below. There will not be any time slots for the lottery picks - unless we are not making any progress. I will assign draft days and times and sitemail everyone with at least 48 hours notice - probably closer to a week. Most time slots will be one hour in time for all 1st round selections. All subsequent rounds will have 30 minute time slots. I will post the league number sometime during the draft.

LEAGUE RULES

  • If you have a shortage of RL minutes at a given position you may use the eternal players from the 50's/60's that is/are designated to play that position ONLY.
  • If you are under 19.5K minutes you can use an eternal scrub, replacing a real life player on your roster. You will still retain the rights to your real life player if they have any future seasons.
  • Owners are not permitted to purposely play ANY players out of position. While the commissioner understands that franchises are cyclical, owners are still required to play to win regardless of the talent level of their roster.
I hope this all makes sense. If you have any questions, concerns, comments let me know.

Thanks everybody!

Good luck and happy drafting.

- Z
7/21/2016 11:03 PM
GENERAL LEAGUE INFO
- This time we will start with 1980-81 season due to the number of available players.
- We use use an ABBAABBAABBA draft format just like we with the original league - this seemed to work well. The draft spots will be determined by a random draw.
- The league already has a solid core of owners many from the previous league. In my opinion the best group of owners assembled on this site. Seriously how many leagues can state they can get through half of a draft on a consistent basis without having to use time slots.
- Rosters will consist of 11 or 12 players depending on where you draft.
- We will NOT have a salary cap.
- Trades involving draft picks will only be for the current season and next season. All trades are subject to commissioner's review.
- Draft order for subsequent seasons will be determined by previous season's W-L record. The NY State Lottery will be used to determine the top 3 picks in the draft.
- All players progress through their career one year at a time.
- You may keep or cut as many players as you wish each season.
- You MUST have EXACTLY 12 eligible players on your roster at the conclusion of the draft.
- Trades are allowed and welcomed.
- IR spots are used for any player not in the WIS database for the current season.
- You may keep as many IR players as you wish in any given season.
- Teams must have a current or former NBA location/city/state/region and teamname.
- You may relocate the available franchises to another NBA location.
- You must carry at least 19K minutes into a season.
- A select number of horrible high minute players from the 50's/60's/70's are available to help you meet this requirement.

So, if you're looking to get in on the ground floor of a new prog league this is for you. We're looking for a long-term commitment - basically this league will run for roughly the next 7 years real time. We move quickly through the offseason(s) so it does require you to at least check in every day or so to see what's going on. In other words this league probably isn't for a casual owner.

If you're interested or have any questions post below.
8/3/2016 9:55 PM (edited)
Planning on starting with 79-80 - the more I look at it I'm leaning towards 80-81...

Confirmed in:
zizzo24
cjok1051
ff09
hoopsrus
thohoops
slamdaham61
deathproof
cea8010
benhoidal
skypilot
eleibowitz
shaggyno9
dskantor
tstamp2
MVG99
iccoachb
robusk
ashamael
midzim
wetz64
mark102857
dh555
tau1624
jcred5
8/3/2016 8:16 PM (edited)
This is not fully complete but use this link http://zizzostats.com/zpl.html to view some of the stats and history from our second league.

All-Time Stats Drafts
1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999
2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015

Season Recaps
84-85 85-86 86-87 87-88 88-89 89-90 90-91 91-92 92-93 93-94 94-95 95-96 96-97 97-98 98-99 99-00
00-01 01-02 02-03 03-04 04-05 05-06 06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11 11-12 12-13 13-14 14-15 15-16

League Leaders
84-85 85-86 86-87 87-88 88-89 89-90 90-91 91-92 92-93 93-94 94-95 95-96 96-97 97-98 98-99 99-00
00-01 01-02 02-03 03-04 04-05 05-06 06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11 11-12 12-13 13-14 14-15 15-16

All-Stars & Awards
84-85 85-86 86-87 87-88 88-89 89-90 90-91 91-92 92-93 93-94 94-95 95-96 96-97 97-98 98-99 99-00
00-01 01-02 02-03 03-04 04-05 05-06 06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11 11-12 12-13 13-14 14-15 15-16

Team History
8/2/2016 10:59 PM (edited)
This is awesome!
7/22/2016 10:44 AM
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I'll establish my franchise in Toronto if that's cool.
7/25/2016 5:50 PM
Is this the 2nd time or 3rd rime rhe zpl has run?
7/29/2016 4:53 PM
Awesome stuff Zizzo! Thanks
7/30/2016 1:04 AM
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