Dacj basically told Spud to go eff himself. Was kinda hard to read with all the ******* which was basically every other word haha.

He said he was quitting and never coming back because he's sick of what he's seeing and hearing in regards to the beta. And Spud is an example how people are whining about the good coaches being too good and it's BS.

Something like that.

Posted by p6453 on 6/22/2016 6:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by qb4usf on 6/22/2016 5:59:00 PM (view original):
Does anyone have what Dac said? I would like to see it, as I was late to the party.

The more and more I read in the beta forums, the more and more I understand that there are morons running the show. Coach Spud is, in my opinion, the worst person on the message board that I have ever seen (Yes, worse than Etta).

There are so many little fixes that could be made in order to make this game more enjoyable and competitive, but the intellectually challenged individual(s) running the show believe that an overhaul is necessary. There are some positives that you can make out of the beta and Seble is listening to some suggestions (while I see half as useless), but the big picture does not change and we accomplish nothing. The things that needed to be addressed still are being overlooked. Someone truly needs to explain to me how someone can be so incompetent that they do not see how this does not solve anything.

The main complaint from the below average to terrible coaches is that the big schools (A+ prestige) have too much of an advantages and that it takes too long to work up to the Big Six. Well, sir, first of all you suck as a coach so you do not belong in the Big Six. Second of all it is quite easy to take a C- team and make them a very good team in D-2 or D-3. If they would fix the firing process more coaches would be able to coach in the Big Six and the ones complaining would most likely be fired in the fourth season.

The early entry debacle is the newest sign of stupidity that I have seen on the beta forums. How can you penalize a team for recruiting a great player? If he leaves early there is no way for you to recover from that; given most recruits have already been signed or have had a lot of effort put into them by the time you get your money for that EE. If you want to compete for a national championship you are likely to have at least 2 potential EE's on your team. Many D-1 teams that win a title will be stuck searching for scraps the following season after they have multiple players leave.

I have not played D-1 and will not act as though I know much about D-1, but I am not an idiot and the repercussions are very apparent to me as well as anyone else who is not a moron. Although I was thinking about taking a few Big Six jobs recently as I am qualified on three of my D-3 teams, but I am worried that this new update will ruin a lot about this game, so I have stayed back with all of my teams.

Such a great and challenging game being thrown away so the ****** socialistic coaches who feel entitled [because they are a person too] can feel that they are getting a fair shot. Just an educated guess, a few seasons after the update is out these same individuals praising Seble for his overhaul will be once again complaining because they are still ****** coaches.

Applause

Yep, this is spot on.

Posted by mullycj on 6/22/2016 6:47:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, I was trying to remember the most hated coach before Spud and couldn't remember the name.
Ettaexpress. A totally different D-bag from Spud, but more amusing.

Spud is just that kid that sits on the bench telling the head coach that he should install equal playing time for all players.

I still stand by my guess that Spud and Seble are one and the same. I'd include CoachWard as well, but he's not nearly a bright enough bulb to belong to that group. Although.........his unbelievably remarkable winning percentage could be a way for this "threesome" to be trying a few new things.

Wait....................naaaah, that would mean that certain "people" are actually paying attention to HD and we all know, that ain't happenin'.

Posted by viva_il_re on 6/22/2016 2:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by viva_il_re on 6/22/2016 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Said thread

oh didn't realize you said that too lol, I'll give you credit for saying it first

here you go emy

although emy might have blocked me here so someone else can post that link for him

Got it, thanks!

it is spot on...But I do question this "Although I was thinking about taking a few Big Six jobs recently as I am qualified on three of my D-3 teams." Maybe he his, I have never seen it before from Div 3 to a Big 6..I always saw " you need to be successful at this level" before I made it to a big 6

Man, unless there is more to it than what I say, this doesn't look good. You have some of the best and brightest HD coaches (Stewdog, Mully, Gillespie among others) basically taking Seble by the hand and walking him through the problems that are getting ready to arise and the only response I saw from Seble was "too keep it civil" and "5th year seniors and transfers will be the same problem". That's it. Nothing else.

I must not have been able to see everything there because a lot of what was described was missing, although Spud being totally outclassed was pretty obvious. That guy isn't just out in left field, he's way up in the nosebleed seats in left field. Last row, third seat from the end.

From what I read Seble was "not" considering any of the issues brought up, just basically ignored them. Kind of like a kid who sticks his fingers in his ears and goes "LAH LAH LAH LAH LA HLAH LAH, I CAN'T HEAR YOU".

I've been pretty obviously against this update since it was announced and NOTHING that I read in that thread gave me the least glimmer of hope. Hell, Coachspud was actually arguing for EE-type players to fall to D2 and D3 teams and the scary thing is, he was SERIOUS!! Somebody muzzle that puppy.

If the EE issue is "anything at all" like what the rest of this update looks like, Doom and Gloom are here to stay people. I know some coaches have complained that the game has gotten "stale". Maybe, maybe not. But what the game did NOT need was a major update of one of the best and funnest parts of the game. This is a great game just how it is. It ain't broke, why try to fix it? Now, NOW it's broken. Great.

Posted by taniajane on 6/23/2016 4:40:00 PM (view original):
it is spot on...But I do question this "Although I was thinking about taking a few Big Six jobs recently as I am qualified on three of my D-3 teams." Maybe he his, I have never seen it before from Div 3 to a Big 6..I always saw " you need to be successful at this level" before I made it to a big 6

Yep, that's quite a jump. I knwo it's easily possible to move from D2 to D3 BCS teams (although not necessarily the big boy teams) because I've done it myself. But whew, D3 to BCS? That's quite a move!!

Honestly I think Seble is listening to input from both long time players and maybe more so from Spud type players. Either way. I find the new system ripe with flaws and Believe it will be rushed out with then constant fixes, Apparently Seble MUST have other duties, since he ignored for years the simple repairs to the working system and instead did a complete overhaul to create this mess.

Posted by taniajane on 6/23/2016 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Honestly I think Seble is listening to input from both long time players and maybe more so from Spud type players. Either way. I find the new system ripe with flaws and Believe it will be rushed out with then constant fixes, Apparently Seble MUST have other duties, since he ignored for years the simple repairs to the working system and instead did a complete overhaul to create this mess.

The scariest part that I read was when Seble posted something along the lines of rolling the update even with the EE problems and then "fixing" that problem "later" with another update. I'm not a genius by any means (yaa, yaa) but isn't it just bad business to push out an update while knowing that it has a major flaw in it? Maybe I'm just naive, I don't know, but were "I" running this beta I'd test the **** out of everything I could, damn however long it takes, until I was as sure as I could be that it was ready. What I would NOT do would be to knowingly roll out a new addition that I KNEW was not ready because of a major flaw. Pardon me but that's BS.

Mark my words, this is going to be the same thing that happened with the roll out for potential. We're going to get a half assed piece of work and we'll be paying to play that debacle while someone MIGHT be trying to fix the issues behind the curtain. HEY, HERE'S AN IDEA! Fix it FIRST, push it out SECOND! Common f'ing sense AND, AND, AND you don't **** on your customers at the same time. You know them, that ever dwindling base of customers propping up what's left of the game and helping to pay salaries. Damn man, it ain't that difficult to figure out.

Posted by taniajane on 6/23/2016 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Honestly I think Seble is listening to input from both long time players and maybe more so from Spud type players. Either way. I find the new system ripe with flaws and Believe it will be rushed out with then constant fixes, Apparently Seble MUST have other duties, since he ignored for years the simple repairs to the working system and instead did a complete overhaul to create this mess.

"More so from the Spud type players" is kind of a problem considering the fact that they really know a little less than jack sheeott about the game. It's kind of like asking the special ed kid in the third grade how to build an airplane. He may give you some advice and answers that sound mostly like gibberish and you may build the hell outta that plane but you'll never catch me buying a ticket.

I believe they will rush it out and expect people to play as they fix it...sorry.....for years they ignored simple fixes...job firings, etc..and I will not pay for this bs...simple facts

Posted by taniajane on 6/23/2016 4:40:00 PM (view original):
it is spot on...But I do question this "Although I was thinking about taking a few Big Six jobs recently as I am qualified on three of my D-3 teams." Maybe he his, I have never seen it before from Div 3 to a Big 6..I always saw " you need to be successful at this level" before I made it to a big 6

If you play long enough at your D-3 school, you will eventually qualify for a few Big 6 jobs. In IBA I was a long-shot for Ohio State this season and am or used to be qualified for Northwestern, Kansas St, Washington and I would think there were a couple more at some point that I cannot remember anymore. Allen is just starting to open up more teams. They are not great jobs (Usually D+ and C- depending on the schools) and I have not been elite in D3, but if you stay consistent you will qualify at some point.

Posted by qb4usf on 6/23/2016 6:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by taniajane on 6/23/2016 4:40:00 PM (view original):
it is spot on...But I do question this "Although I was thinking about taking a few Big Six jobs recently as I am qualified on three of my D-3 teams." Maybe he his, I have never seen it before from Div 3 to a Big 6..I always saw " you need to be successful at this level" before I made it to a big 6

If you play long enough at your D-3 school, you will eventually qualify for a few Big 6 jobs. In IBA I was a long-shot for Ohio State this season and am or used to be qualified for Northwestern, Kansas St, Washington and I would think there were a couple more at some point that I cannot remember anymore. Allen is just starting to open up more teams. They are not great jobs (Usually D+ and C- depending on the schools) and I have not been elite in D3, but if you stay consistent you will qualify at some point.

wonders how many seasons and how many championships

If I recall, I was a long shot for Vanderbilt in Smith 4 seasons ago, before I left Carelton. 17 seasons, the last 9 at A+, with a national championship, 3 final fours in 6 seasons, and coming off a title game appearance. They were D+. I wasn't qualified for any Big 6 teams the following year, after a second round exit.