Sophmore at A- Iq to end the season?!?! Topic

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3328407 I haven't seen this at all yet but It has shocked me to see him at A- Iq he has 1 more season to go before he is given a start. This team I have recruited will have two 600 players by the next two seasons. Both of them are sophmores.
7/2/2016 2:38 AM
It's the combination of a high WE and the fact he didn't start at a F.
7/2/2016 6:00 AM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 7/2/2016 6:00:00 AM (view original):
It's the combination of a high WE and the fact he didn't start at a F.
Thanks.
7/2/2016 10:33 AM
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 2:38:00 AM (view original):
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3328407 I haven't seen this at all yet but It has shocked me to see him at A- Iq he has 1 more season to go before he is given a start. This team I have recruited will have two 600 players by the next two seasons. Both of them are sophmores.
Good job on the young 600s ward (sarcasm)! Just remember that overall rating isn't everything: https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3328408
Durability and Work Ethic don't matter on the court while Stamina doesn't matter thaat much! Heck, even whatifsports system players roles are better than overall rating.
7/2/2016 1:17 PM (edited)
Posted by cubcub113 on 7/2/2016 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 2:38:00 AM (view original):
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3328407 I haven't seen this at all yet but It has shocked me to see him at A- Iq he has 1 more season to go before he is given a start. This team I have recruited will have two 600 players by the next two seasons. Both of them are sophmores.
Good job on the young 600s ward (sarcasm)! Just remember that overall rating isn't everything: https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3328408
Durability and Work Ethic don't matter on the court while Stamina doesn't matter thaat much! Heck, even whatifsports system players roles are better than overall rating.
Yes I should have two 600s. Once this sophomore class is at senior or possibble at the end of junior season. How does work ethic don't matter care to.explain? I know stamina doesn't matter that much since inuries rarley happen. I thought player roles just finds you better players in recruting?
7/2/2016 3:25 PM
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 3:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cubcub113 on 7/2/2016 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 2:38:00 AM (view original):
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3328407 I haven't seen this at all yet but It has shocked me to see him at A- Iq he has 1 more season to go before he is given a start. This team I have recruited will have two 600 players by the next two seasons. Both of them are sophmores.
Good job on the young 600s ward (sarcasm)! Just remember that overall rating isn't everything: https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3328408
Durability and Work Ethic don't matter on the court while Stamina doesn't matter thaat much! Heck, even whatifsports system players roles are better than overall rating.
Yes I should have two 600s. Once this sophomore class is at senior or possibble at the end of junior season. How does work ethic don't matter care to.explain? I know stamina doesn't matter that much since inuries rarley happen. I thought player roles just finds you better players in recruting?
He's referring to WE not having any influence on what your players do in games your team plays. It influences how fast your players reach their maximum potentials (in conjunction with things like playing time and starts), but two players with similar ratings aside from a 1 WE and a 99 WE will still play identical within the course of a 40-minute basketball game.

And not sure if you mistyped or not, but stamina measures how long your players can play in a game without suffering performance penalties for being tiring/tired/very tired. Durability is the one that impacts injury, injury severity and rate of recovery.

The biggest issue with player roles is that it doesn't look at potentials. So it might (and even this is debatable) give you a picture of who the better players are right now as incoming freshmen. It can't give you any sort of meaningful commentary on who the best player 4 years from now when everyone is a senior will be, and that's what truly matters.
7/2/2016 3:49 PM
600 isn't even that good for a D3 player
7/2/2016 5:28 PM
At a time, many moons ago, work ethic did have a small impact during games, but since they've eliminated that.
7/2/2016 5:51 PM
with respect to the "stamina doesn't matter much" comment, just remember that stamina is the one rating you really can't box in, in terms of importance. stamina ranges from one of the least important attributes to the single most important attribute, depending on the player and situation. there are four trend lines within stamina importance:
- the better the player, the more stamina matters
- the higher the player is on the depth chart, the more stamina matters
- the more fatigue the team faces overall (from set, tempo, and depth), the more stamina matters
- the better the team, especially in d1 (EEs), the more stamina matters

i think most of these are basically self evident, but the one that may not be obvious is the last one. foul/fatigue combo trouble is generally one of the most stubborn sources of a loss to stamp out, for great teams. when playing uneven matches in your favor, having more depth clearly helps limit the volatility from foul/fatigue troubles. so that is where stamina comes into play.

just a couple examples to illustrate the differences:
for a d2 motion/zone team, 12 deep with an even rotation, season goal of playing for a NT bid: the stamina on the 11th or 12th man basically doesn't even matter. 50 vs 100 is a slight difference, but that's it. for the star player on the team though, stamina will typically still be a core rating. the better the player, the bigger margin they usually have over their backup, but really its the margin over the backup that is the driver - every extra minute you can play that superior starter helps your team in a pretty significant way. still, because the team isn't that worried about foul/fatigue edge cases, because the system itself is low-fatigue, because there is great depth, stamina won't be nearly as important as those top line cores, per in your sg, ath/reb in your pf, etc.

for a d1 motion/press team, 10 deep with an even rotation, season goal of playing for a NT championship: with only 10 players, fouls and fatigue are a huge concern. stamina is a significant core for every single player on the team, generally top 3 for every player, being the #1 or #2 rating for at least a couple. that kind of team's lead per scorer likely has some insane spd, per, bh ratings already, and is a very solid defender. if they are a pg, they probably have 90+ pass. generally, for that kind of player, stamina is going to be THE most important rating - around the margin (meaning, if you took the player, offered him a point in anything, stamina would be the best selection). fatigue hits pretty hard so avoiding it is very important. even for my 12 deep d1 press title-seeking teams, stamina is usually the top core for a couple of my players, and top 3 for most of the top 10.
7/2/2016 6:19 PM
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 5:28:00 PM (view original):
600 isn't even that good for a D3 player
You make me laugh!
7/2/2016 7:23 PM
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 7:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 5:28:00 PM (view original):
600 isn't even that good for a D3 player
You make me laugh!
I'm not joking, first off I've had a player that was 780, and many players over 700. Second off, there are so many 600+ players in every world that having 2 is not significant, there's like 30 guys over 700 in Phelen, probably something like 150 over 600 players. Third, overall ratings don't matter, look at your best guy.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3286200
611 overall
now look at a player on my team
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3312180
571 overall, but he is a way better PG, he's higher in every important stat besides SPD, which is only a little lower. You might say PE is higher in yours, but the difference between 38 and 25 is extremly small, they both suck at shooting. Your PG can't pass to save his life, and he can't dribble past a defense. He's 40 overall lower, but he's a lot better.
7/2/2016 8:24 PM
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 7:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 5:28:00 PM (view original):
600 isn't even that good for a D3 player
You make me laugh!
I'm not joking, first off I've had a player that was 780, and many players over 700. Second off, there are so many 600+ players in every world that having 2 is not significant, there's like 30 guys over 700 in Phelen, probably something like 150 over 600 players. Third, overall ratings don't matter, look at your best guy.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3286200
611 overall
now look at a player on my team
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3312180
571 overall, but he is a way better PG, he's higher in every important stat besides SPD, which is only a little lower. You might say PE is higher in yours, but the difference between 38 and 25 is extremly small, they both suck at shooting. Your PG can't pass to save his life, and he can't dribble past a defense. He's 40 overall lower, but he's a lot better.
Yes yes you;rre joking... 700 players are division 1 players at best shouldn't be at division 3 maybe division 2 fair say. I am not getting into a argrument with you consider this drop!
7/2/2016 8:41 PM
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 8:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 7:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 5:28:00 PM (view original):
600 isn't even that good for a D3 player
You make me laugh!
I'm not joking, first off I've had a player that was 780, and many players over 700. Second off, there are so many 600+ players in every world that having 2 is not significant, there's like 30 guys over 700 in Phelen, probably something like 150 over 600 players. Third, overall ratings don't matter, look at your best guy.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3286200
611 overall
now look at a player on my team
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3312180
571 overall, but he is a way better PG, he's higher in every important stat besides SPD, which is only a little lower. You might say PE is higher in yours, but the difference between 38 and 25 is extremly small, they both suck at shooting. Your PG can't pass to save his life, and he can't dribble past a defense. He's 40 overall lower, but he's a lot better.
Yes yes you;rre joking... 700 players are division 1 players at best shouldn't be at division 3 maybe division 2 fair say. I am not getting into a argrument with you consider this drop!
I once had a 700 D-3 player, except he had a really small *****, so it was more like he was 600.
7/2/2016 10:07 PM
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 8:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 7/2/2016 7:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/2/2016 5:28:00 PM (view original):
600 isn't even that good for a D3 player
You make me laugh!
I'm not joking, first off I've had a player that was 780, and many players over 700. Second off, there are so many 600+ players in every world that having 2 is not significant, there's like 30 guys over 700 in Phelen, probably something like 150 over 600 players. Third, overall ratings don't matter, look at your best guy.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3286200
611 overall
now look at a player on my team
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3312180
571 overall, but he is a way better PG, he's higher in every important stat besides SPD, which is only a little lower. You might say PE is higher in yours, but the difference between 38 and 25 is extremly small, they both suck at shooting. Your PG can't pass to save his life, and he can't dribble past a defense. He's 40 overall lower, but he's a lot better.
Yes yes you;rre joking... 700 players are division 1 players at best shouldn't be at division 3 maybe division 2 fair say. I am not getting into a argrument with you consider this drop!
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3227640
this guy is on my team right now

i had this guy on my team, he's 765, not 780 as I earlier said, but he was still black in 3 categories.
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Ratings.aspx?&pid=3149826

As I said earlier, there are like 30 guys in Phelen with over 700, Wooden, which is in exhibition games only has 8 but it's the beginning of the season, and Knight has like 12, and it's still in non conference.

They are fairly common, always a bunch of them especially at the end of the year. Good Division 1 players are like 950+, not 700.

Your are arguing against cold hard facts, which is extremely pointless. 700 is a D3 player. 600 is not that great for D3. All you need to do to find that information out is look at the player ratings tab under rankings on your team page.

All of that said, overall ratings do not matter, it is how it is dispersed (hence my earlier examples with our two players) .

All you need to say now is "Yes master, it is you who is clearly more knowledgable than I. I shall stop my idiotic untrue statements and listen to what people are trying to teach me."
7/2/2016 11:05 PM
Well, I'm sad he has not conceded that I am his master. ^
7/3/2016 9:24 PM
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