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If you have some comments on the current DEAL draft, here is the place to do it. Have at it guys!
7/21/2016 8:16 PM
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My team has a very concise strategy, which is to hit HRs and not give them up. That strategy translated to 82-80 last season. Hoping to improve on that.

C Darrell Porter (349) - .291/.421/.484; C/C+/A+; happy with the value for the draft slot
1B Todd Helton (91) - .372/.463/.698; A-/B-; for two seasons I skrimped on 1B platoon...not this time
3B Mike Schmidt (54) - .316/.435/.644; B/A-; star of my season 1 team
2B Buddy Myer (294) - .349/.440/.468; B/B; doesn't fit my strategy perfectly but I missed on my target (Utley)
SS Rico Petrocelli (102) - .297/.403/.589; A/B-; love his combo of power and defense
LF-L Bryce Harper (139) - .330/.460/.649; C/C+; surprised he hung on so long...big power in seasons 1/2
LF-R Milton Bradley (445) - .321/.421/.501; A/A+; good success on the short side of a platoon in Season 1
CF-L Roy Thomas (235) - .317/.417/.358; B+/A+; all about defense
CF-R Al Kaline (371) - .327/.410/.530; A-/A+; too late to pass up...might overtake Roy in the platoon
RF Ken Williams (150) - .332/.413/.627; C+/A-; another season 1 monster coming back home
DH-L Bill Joyce (198) - .355/.496/.648; same DH combo hit 28 HRs, 126 runs, 129 RBI in 785 PAs in Season 2
DH-R Roy Cullenbine (372) - .335/.477/.537; same DH combo tuned up the league at .326/.436/.520 in Season 2

SP Ed Walsh (6) - 495/1.42/0.86/0.04; #6 turned out to be the perfect landing spot to get my #1 target
SP Jack Chesbro (43) - 488/1.82/0.94/0.08; Happy Jack is a serviceable buddy for Walsh
SP George McQuillan (246) - 379/1.53/0.98/0.03; wasting his elite RP season but I want the innings

CL Hong-Chih Kuo (187) - 60/1.20/0.78/0.15; I look at 2010 and think about what could have been
RP Dale Murray (283) - 71/1.03/0.99/0.13; not the best, not the worst
RP Grant Jackson (350) - 60/1.69/0.92/0.15; earlier than I would have liked, but this is a RP draft
RP Jack Quinn (446) - 67/2.29/0.88/0.00; out punches his weight class most of the time
8/1/2016 6:57 PM (edited)
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Very different draft so far this season. Very fun to keep up with
7/22/2016 3:34 PM
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Pos Player Season AVG OBP SLG Speed Field/Range
C Chief Meyers 1912 0.358 0.441 0.477 41 C/B/C
1B Rod Carew 1977 0.388 0.449 0.570 79 B+/A-
2B Joe Morgan 1975 0.327 0.466 0.508 86 A-/A-
3B Heinie Zimmerman 1912 0.372 0.418 0.571 58 D+/B
SS Hughie Jennings 1896 0.401 0.472 0.488 83 C/A+
OF Mickey Mantle 1957 0.365 0.512 0.665 78 C+/A-
OF Tony Gwynn 1994 0.394 0.454 0.568 62 B/D+
OF George Stone 1906 0.358 0.417 0.501 74 C/A-
DH
Role Player Season IP WHIP HR/9
SP Charlie Ferguson 1886 563 0.98 0.25
SP Doc White 1906 236 0.9 0.08
SP Jack Pfiester 1906 268 0.94 0.11
RP Elmer Steele 1908 125 0.83 0.08
RP Joe Berry 1944 118 0.91 0.32
RP Cisco Carlos 1967 42 0.77 0
RP Jeff Manship 2015 39 0.76 0.23
RP Rich Hill 2015 29 0.66 0.62
7/31/2016 4:25 PM (edited)
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A lot of guys I drafted last season are going much earlier this time. Glad I was able to help restore their reputations.
Williams moved up from #24 to #15.
Musial - 25 to 21
DiMaggio - 72 to 48
Baldwin - 73 to 58
Sosa - 168 to 74
McGwire - 169 to 84
Wagner - 217 to 151
Cano - 264 to 140
Marichal - 531 to 112!!!
7/23/2016 5:08 AM (edited)
kyleb63
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Posted by mac195 on 7/23/2016 5:08:00 AM (view original):
A lot of guys I drafted last season are going much earlier this time. Glad I was able to help restore their reputations.
Williams moved up from #24 to #15.
Musial - 25 to 21
DiMaggio - 72 to 48
Baldwin - 73 to 58
Sosa - 168 to 74
McGwire - 169 to 84
Wagner - 217 to 151
Cano - 264 to 140
Marichal - 531 to 112!!!
Sosa and Big Mac in particular were dogs in season one. Way to bring back '98!
7/23/2016 4:10 PM
amerk1180
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LOL, yeah once I got Sosa, I particularly wanted to pair him up with Mac. I might have been able to get him without trading up, as evidenced by last years draft spot, but I didn't want to take that chance.

I have pretty much the same exact strategy as kyleb, with Mac, Sosa, Miggy, A-Rod. then 3 fingers and Cicotte.

By the way, a guy you forgot mac195 is McNally. I got him way late last year and he went way early this year.
7/25/2016 1:14 PM
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How do you place a player into his secondary position?

For example, let's say I wanted to have Johnny Bench (who's been drafted, so nobody freak out) play 3rd base instead of catcher. How can I place him in the 3rd base slot on my draft center?
7/27/2016 1:15 PM
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C: Elston Howard
1B: Jim Edmonds
2B: Placido Polanco
3B: Adrian Beltre
SS: Nomar Garciaparra
LF: Andrew McCutchen
CF: Eric Davis
RF: Frank Robinson
DH: Ted Williams

Bench
C: Gene Tenace
2B: Kazuo Matsui
SS: Alex S Gonzalez
OF: Jerry Mumphrey

SP1: Bob Carruthers
SP2: Jake Arrieta
SP3: Clayton Kershaw
SP4: Randy Johnson
SP5: Nolan Ryan

RP: Duane Ward
RP: Guillermo Mota
RP: Sparky Lyle
CL: Bobby Jenks

Home Park: Citi Field

I know we've got a ways to go, but I like my team so far. What do you'all think?
8/2/2016 4:32 PM (edited)
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Posted by roadhouse19 on 7/27/2016 1:15:00 PM (view original):
How do you place a player into his secondary position?

For example, let's say I wanted to have Johnny Bench (who's been drafted, so nobody freak out) play 3rd base instead of catcher. How can I place him in the 3rd base slot on my draft center?
Click on the 3B link on your roster. In the draft center set "Min Games Played" to 0, and check the box, "include secondary positions."
7/28/2016 12:47 PM
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Let's pick up the Vladimir Guerrero HOF debate here!

Excerpt from the Baseball HOF website Future Eligible s section.

VLADIMIR GUERRERO

Nine-time All-Star and 2004 American League MVP played 16 seasons for Expos, Angels, Rangers and Orioles…In addition to his 2004 MVP, finished in Top 10 of his league’s MVP voting five other times and won eight Silver Slugger Awards: Seven in the outfield and one as a designated hitter…Drove in 100-or-more runs 10 times, batted .318 for his career and totaled 449 career home runs.

7/28/2016 12:50 PM
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Vladimir Guerrero \guh-RAIR-oh\

Vladimir Guerrero (Vladdy or Vlad the Impaler)

Position: Rightfielder
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 3", Weight: 235 lb.

Born: February 9, 1975 in Nizao, Peravia, Dominican Republic (Age 41.170)
High School: Nizao (Nizao, DO)
Signed by the Montreal Expos as an amateur free agent in 1993. (All Transactions)
Debut: September 19, 1996 (Age 21.223, 14,606th in MLB history) vs. ATL 5 AB, 1 H, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 0 SB
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1997 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Expos/Angels/Rangers/Orioles 1996-2011
Agents: Fernando Cuza, previously: Bob Gilhooley, Pat Rooney [*]
Last Game: September 28, 2011 (Age 36.231) vs. BOS 4 AB, 0 H, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 0 SB
Relatives: Brother of Wilton Guerrero

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1996 21 MON NL 9 27 27 2 5 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 3 .185 .185 .296 .481 24 8 1 0 0 0 0 /98
1997 22 MON NL 90 354 325 44 98 22 2 11 40 3 4 19 39 .302 .350 .483 .833 117 157 11 7 0 3 2 9/8 RoY-6
1998 23 MON NL 159 677 623 108 202 37 7 38 109 11 9 42 95 .324 .371 .589 .960 150 367 15 7 0 5 13 *9 MVP-13
1999 ? 24 MON NL 160 674 610 102 193 37 5 42 131 14 7 55 62 .316 .378 .600 .978 146 366 18 7 0 2 14 *9 AS,MVP-11,SS
2000 ? 25 MON NL 154 641 571 101 197 28 11 44 123 9 10 58 74 .345 .410 .664 1.074 162 379 15 8 0 4 23 *9/D AS,MVP-6,SS
2001 ? 26 MON NL 159 671 599 107 184 45 4 34 108 37 16 60 88 .307 .377 .566 .943 139 339 24 9 0 3 24 *9 AS,MVP-24
2002 ? 27 MON NL 161 709 614 106 206 37 2 39 111 40 20 84 70 .336 .417 .593 1.010 160 364 20 6 0 5 32 *9 AS,MVP-4,SS
2003 28 MON NL 112 467 394 71 130 20 3 25 79 9 5 63 53 .330 .426 .586 1.012 156 231 18 6 0 4 22 *9 MVP-17
2004 ? 29 ANA AL 156 680 612 124 206 39 2 39 126 15 3 52 74 .337 .391 .598 .989 157 366 19 8 0 8 14 *9D AS,MVP-1,SS
2005 ? 30 LAA AL 141 594 520 95 165 29 2 32 108 13 1 61 48 .317 .394 .565 .959 154 294 16 8 0 5 26 *9D AS,MVP-3,SS
2006 ? 31 LAA AL 156 665 607 92 200 34 1 33 116 15 5 50 68 .329 .382 .552 .934 138 335 16 4 0 4 25 *9D AS,MVP-9,SS
2007 ? 32 LAA AL 150 660 574 89 186 45 1 27 125 2 3 71 62 .324 .403 .547 .950 147 314 19 9 0 6 28 9D AS,MVP-3,SS
2008 33 LAA AL 143 600 541 85 164 31 3 27 91 5 3 51 77 .303 .365 .521 .886 130 282 27 4 0 4 16 9D MVP-14
2009 34 LAA AL 100 407 383 59 113 16 1 15 50 2 1 19 56 .295 .334 .460 .794 107 176 16 4 0 1 3 D/9
2010 ? 35 TEX AL 152 643 593 83 178 27 1 29 115 4 5 35 60 .300 .345 .496 .841 119 294 19 9 0 6 5 *D9/7 AS,MVP-11,SS
2011 36 BAL AL 145 590 562 60 163 30 1 13 63 2 2 17 56 .290 .317 .416 .733 98 234 23 7 0 4 3 *D
16 Yrs 2147 9059 8155 1328 2590 477 46 449 1496 181 94 737 985 .318 .379 .553 .931 140 4506 277 103 0 64 250

7/28/2016 12:52 PM
Got_Worms
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Most similar batters to Vladimir Guerrero

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Compare Stats to Similars
  1. Miguel Cabrera (887)
  2. Jeff Bagwell (860)
  3. Larry Walker (860)
  4. Jim Rice (849) *
  5. Willie Stargell (840) *
  6. Billy Williams (840) *
  7. Todd Helton (835)
  8. Duke Snider (822) *
  9. Andres Galarraga (819)
  10. Carlos Beltran (817)
7/28/2016 12:53 PM
kyleb63
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Posted by Got_Worms on 7/28/2016 12:53:00 PM (view original):
Most similar batters to Vladimir Guerrero

Similar Batters
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Compare Stats to Similars
  1. Miguel Cabrera (887)
  2. Jeff Bagwell (860)
  3. Larry Walker (860)
  4. Jim Rice (849) *
  5. Willie Stargell (840) *
  6. Billy Williams (840) *
  7. Todd Helton (835)
  8. Duke Snider (822) *
  9. Andres Galarraga (819)
  10. Carlos Beltran (817)
My argument is the same. No Larry Walker, no Vladdy.
7/28/2016 1:00 PM
roadhouse19
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Posted by Got_Worms on 7/28/2016 12:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by roadhouse19 on 7/27/2016 1:15:00 PM (view original):
How do you place a player into his secondary position?

For example, let's say I wanted to have Johnny Bench (who's been drafted, so nobody freak out) play 3rd base instead of catcher. How can I place him in the 3rd base slot on my draft center?
Click on the 3B link on your roster. In the draft center set "Min Games Played" to 0, and check the box, "include secondary positions."
Thanks Worms
7/28/2016 1:25 PM
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