How long does scouting take in the beta? Topic

For me? 74 minutes, spread over 2 weeks. Here's my scouting history for season 3:
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7/21 10:20 AM
7/21 10:19 AM
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7/21 10:18 AM
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7/21 10:10 AM
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7/20 5:43 AM
7/20 5:42 AM
7/18 5:24 AM
7/7 3:09 PM
7/7 3:09 PM
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7/7 2:57 PM
7/7 2:55 PM
7/7 2:53 PM
7/7 10:34 AM
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7/7 8:54 AM
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7/5 5:41 AM
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Individual Scouting Trip $150 1 0 Gary Fry
Individual Scouting Trip $150 1 0 Gary Fry
Individual Scouting Trip $150 1 0 Gary Fry
Individual Scouting Trip $129 1 0 Oren Mason
Individual Scouting Trip $129 1 0 Oren Mason
Individual Scouting Trip $129 1 0 Oren Mason
Individual Scouting Trip $230 1 0 James Carpenter
Individual Scouting Trip $230 1 0 James Carpenter
Individual Scouting Trip $230 1 0 James Carpenter
Individual Scouting Trip $247 1 0 Kim Leyva
Individual Scouting Trip $247 1 0 Kim Leyva
Individual Scouting Trip $182 1 0 Ronald Hickey
Individual Scouting Trip $182 1 0 Ronald Hickey
Individual Scouting Trip $182 1 0 Ronald Hickey
Individual Scouting Trip $186 1 0 Anthony Collins
Individual Scouting Trip $230 1 0 Dennis Treiber
Individual Scouting Trip $230 1 0 Dennis Treiber
Scouting Service $1,010 100 90 View All
Scouting Service $790 79 78 View All
Individual Scouting Trip $145 1 0 Mark Schwartzman
Scouting Service $80 8 6 View All
Individual Scouting Trip $104 1 0 Ralph Miller
Individual Scouting Trip $244 1 0 Freddie Petrella
Individual Scouting Trip $244 1 0 Freddie Petrella
Individual Scouting Trip $244 1 0 Freddie Petrella
Individual Scouting Trip $114 1 0 Charles Scott
Individual Scouting Trip $115 1 0 Gregg Anderson
Individual Scouting Trip $115 1 0 Gregg Anderson
Individual Scouting Trip $115 1 0 Gregg Anderson
Individual Scouting Trip $101 1 0 Jeffrey Rey
Individual Scouting Trip $267 1 0 John Watterson
Individual Scouting Trip $267 1 0 John Watterson
Individual Scouting Trip $112 1 0 Erik Stewart
Individual Scouting Trip $110 1 0 Daniel Leavens
Assistant Coach Search $1,750 25 1 View All
Scouting Service $1,040 104 92 View All
Individual Scouting Trip $276 1 0 Steven Myers
Individual Scouting Trip $276 1 0 Steven Myers
Individual Scouting Trip $115 1 0 Joseph Lamp
Individual Scouting Trip $113 1 0 Thomas Reynolds
Individual Scouting Trip $110 1 0 Kyle Turner
Individual Scouting Trip $110 1 0 Kyle Turner
Individual Scouting Trip $103 1 0 Michael Nelson
Scouting Service $10 1 1 View All
Scouting Service $100 10 9 View All
Scouting Service $80 8 8 View All
Scouting Service $140 14 14 View All
Scouting Service $210 21 16 View All
Scouting Service $430 43 32 View All
Assistant Coach Search $1,750 25 24 View All
Individual Scouting Trip $102 1 0 James Hedrick
Individual Scouting Trip $102 1 0 James Hedrick
Individual Scouting Trip $102 1 0 Ralph Miller
Individual Scouting Trip $102 1 0 Ralph Miller
Individual Scouting Trip $107 1 0 Raymond Borden
Individual Scouting Trip $107 1 0 Al Juan
Assistant Coach Search $1,400 20 20 View All
Assistant Coach Search $1,750 25 24 View All
7/22/2016 6:44 AM
The thing I like about it is the amount of time AVAILABLE to do it. It does not have to be crowded into a 36 hour window like now. I probably have spent 2 times as much as I normally do in beta - BUT - I didn't absolutely have to do that. I find the budget to be very sufficient to do a lot of scouting in states I would not normally consider. Plus, I find the different options interesting, so I enjoy the ability to dig deeper and do more research, so that I can have a really solid list of main targets and a good list of backups.

You could get a very solid list of prospects in like 15 minutes by doing this.

Host a camp in your state, and possibly attend a camp in your region. (1 minute)

Look at the targets you have discovered. With FSS you have all of them. (I would FSS a wider area than you do now, especially at D1).

Find the targets that look halfway decent based on the letter grades. The letter grades may change to vague numbers according to some discussions.

You can select all of those targets in one step, and scout all of them to the next level.

Look at them again at the next level.

Scout the ones that still look good to the next level, again in one step.

You now have your list.

The extra steps are doing the camps, which takes about a minute, and scouting multiple targets to the next level, which would probably take about 10-15 minutes if you spend time sorting through them at that stage.

At that point, if you are in D1, you will probably still have a lot of scouting $$ Left, so you may also want to scout other states or internationals. It's not a bad idea to scout some states that are at a greater distance to see if there are any players that match up well with you in terms of preferences, and that also want to play far from home, because you will have an advantage on those players over close by schools.

I have had very good success in beta recruiting players that are outside of the normal geographic area I tend to look at now. Right now, I almost always stay under 360 miles because the cost goes up so much. In this game the cost does not jump at artificial levels, so I can look at a 370 mile away player and he's about the same cost as a 350 mile away one.

Again, the thing I like is I can do this at my leisure, instead of being forced into a super short window. I can do it at a time when I am bored and want to spend time on the game.
7/22/2016 7:35 AM (edited)
Agree with the time flexibility. Now when I'm out of town travelling I don't have to recruit 100% from my phone. Which I've done a few times.

But if I want to, I can sit in bed and play around for 15 min or so and mess around before nighty night time.

It has improved A LOT since the 1st season. There are features now that speed up the process quite a bit.
7/22/2016 8:08 AM
TJ - here is the added "bone us". We have to keep rechecking targets because preference matchups can change during the season.
7/22/2016 8:15 AM
Posted by mullycj on 7/22/2016 8:15:00 AM (view original):
TJ - here is the added "bone us". We have to keep rechecking targets because preference matchups can change during the season.
How often do you check the preferences? I only did that at the every end when I was ordering recruits. Admittedly, I only glanced at the preference chart on the recruit page and eyeballed stuff so I may not have paid enough to it.
7/22/2016 8:24 AM
preferences change once? right before the 2nd period?
7/22/2016 8:30 AM
Also how much did you think you scouted compared to others? more/less? with how useless camps are about an hour doesn't sound bad probably could get that done in a day
7/22/2016 8:34 AM
Posted by the0nlyis on 7/22/2016 8:34:00 AM (view original):
Also how much did you think you scouted compared to others? more/less? with how useless camps are about an hour doesn't sound bad probably could get that done in a day
My guess is that I scouted less than the detailed, spread sheet using types. I play alot by sense of smell.

I haven't played around with camps yet to see their value, I do think that the Assistant Coach scouts (which many people claim are worthless) were valuable to me because I knew what I was looking for and basically FSS'ed for 30% less or scouted to level 2 for 50% less.
7/22/2016 8:44 AM
It takes me around the same time. I think it's a bit longer than before, but not by much. Still need to address recruit générations at D1 and assistant search which is a bit worthless.
7/22/2016 9:46 AM
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