Wannabe XLV - Welcome To The Occupation (need 2) Topic

Wannabe XLV - Welcome To The Occupation

Welcome to the largest team blacklist in the entire universe!

We are winding up our 44th season and it's time to pick teams for the 44th go-around. I'll just post the rules we've used for the first 44seasons and we'll go on from there. Everyone who was in Season XLIV is guaranteed a spot this time if they want to stay. Anyone who wants to get on the wait-list can just leave their name and we'll take them as spots open up. First come, first served (although owners with 5 or more previous seasons in wannabe are bumped to the front of the waitlist). It's always a fun league with a lot of league wide banter.

* $100 million cap
* NO WW
* NO AAA
* No Trades
* NO DH this time around

2011 teams will be available this time, based on current rosters.


Pick any team from any year. (For this season we've blacklisted the teams used in seasons 1 through 43. I'll post a list of those teams here in the forum.) Get the roster from www.baseball-reference.com and use anyone who played for your team that year. You can use any season of their career as long as they made at least 1 appearance for your team during the year you picked. Simple enough, right? I think everyone has this figured out by now, but if you don't, just ask.

Playing out of position is OK at your own peril.

NO AAA. If you're playing with the '75 Reds, then use the players on that team, not some imaginary players. Make sure you draft enough innings pitched and enough at-bats per position.

You can pick any $200K player from any year in your franchise history. It doesn't matter if you have a backup available from your year or not. If you want a $200K player, take one. Actually, you can even take a $250K player if you want. Anyone who comes up during the $200K + or - $50K search is OK with me. If there isn't a $200K guy available, you can use the cheapest you can find. If you pick the Rockies, Diamondbacks, Devil Rays, or Marlins, you can use all 4 of those teams for your $200K pool. If you have any questions about this, just ask.

(With the salary changes, it may be tougher to find $200K players for some teams. If it becomes a problem, we'll work something out.)

NO CLONES.

If you pick an old-time team that only had 7 pitchers, fill the other slots with $200K's from your franchise history. You probably won't need their innings anyway and you can use them as mop-ups.

Only 1 team per owner. I want to give everyone a chance if they want to play.

Use the stadium your team played in. If it's not available, then use another one in the same city or a reasonable alternative.

Name your team anything you want.

Bust some chops in the forum. If you sweep me, feel free to tell me how much my team sucks and how great your team is. And laugh it off when someone does the same to you.

Only one person can have a specific team and season. The first one to grab the '61 Yankees gets them. The next Yankee fan has to settle for the '27 team or whatever their other favorite is. I don't care how many Yankee teams are in the league as long as each one is a different season.

Head2Head is fine with me as long as it's the next game on the schedule. I don't want anyone jumping ahead. There will be NO Head2Head after game #120. (Since H2H is now free to everyone, I'm making a slight change here. Instead of just the next game, you can play the next full series H2H if you want. Just don't jump ahead of the schedule, and still NO H2H after game #120.)

My guess is that divisions will be along time lines, but I don't have any real preference. In the first 43 leagues, we've used time lines for the divisions, but we're flexible. If you want to be in a division with someone else, we'll work it out.

Whatever I forgot to include I'll throw in later. Let me know if you see a problem. I know these rules are different from some of the other twist leagues, but they can work.

* Do not use the same team without at least a 5 year span between them. If someone else has the '27 Yankees, then don't use the '23-'32 Yankees. This rule is in place to have more variety in the teams we choose and the rosters. Exceptions can be made by the commissioner if he feels the rosters are different enough.
2/18/2012 6:08 PM
Blacklisted Teams:
 
These are the blacklisted teams. mfumar actually put some effort into this and organized them alphabetically and in chronological order. I know we're going to run out of teams at the rate we're going, but it's fun looking for new teams to twist. We talked about doing away with the blacklist because of the recent changes, but I think most of us want to keep it. I like seeing different teams each time around. 
 
A's:(40) '02, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '95, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006
 
Angels:(20) '61, '62, '67, '71, '77, '79, '82, '83, '84, '85, '87, '90, '91, '92, '97, '99, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008
 
Astros:(28) '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '72, '76, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '95, '97, '98, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005
 
Blue Jays:(19) '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2008
 
Braves:(44) 1898, 1899, 1900, '17, '19, '35, '42, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '75, '82, '88, '89, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
Brewers:(12) '69, '78, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '91, '92, '93, 2008
 
Browns:(6) '17,  '22, '25, '43, '44, '53
 
Cards:(73) 1887, 1889, 1899, '00, '21, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '46, '47, '48, '50, '51, '52, '55, '56, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
 
Colonels:(1) 1899
 
Cubs:(52) '06, '07, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '16, '26, '29, '32, '33, '34, '35, '39, '44, '45, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, 74, '77, '78, '80, '85, '86, '87, '88, '91, '92, '93, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
 
Diamondbacks:(8) '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008
 
Dodgers:(69) 1899, 1900, '01, '26, '29, '31, '32, '33, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '47, '48, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '71, '72, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
 
Expos:(11) '79, '80, '81, '82, '84, '85, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96
 
Giants:(69) 1888, '04, '05, '06, '08, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '27, '28, '29, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '39, '41, '42, '51, '52, '54, '55, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '80, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '93, '98, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
Indians:(52) '02, '03, '04, '09, '10, '14, '19, '20, '21, '22, '31, '37, '39, '41, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '64, '65, '66, '67, '74, '75, '82, '86, '87, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
 
Mariners:(20) '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009
 
Marlins:(7) '96, '97, '98, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005
 
Mets:(28) '67, '69, '70, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '82, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '99, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
 
Nationals:(1) 2005
 
Orioles:(40) '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '88, '90, '93, '95, '96, '98, '99, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
 
Orioles (Old Time):(4) 1894, 1895, 1897, 1898
 
Padres:(11) '78, '79, '87, '90, '96, '97, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
 
Phillies:(55) 1891, 1892, 1893, 1896, 1898, 1899, '00, '01, '12, '13, '16, '17, '21, '30, '36, '41, '45, '48, '49, '54, '56, '59, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '73, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '89, '90, '93, '94, '95, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
Pirates:(44) '00, '01, '02, '03, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '15, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '29, '33, '35, '39, '47, '65, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '74, '75, '77, '79, '81, '83, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, 2001
 
Rangers:(18) '71, '74, '77, '78, '80, '85, '86, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '98, '99, 2002, 2005, 2008

Rays: (2) '99, 2000
 
Red Sox:(56) '07, '08, '09, '14, '15, '19, '39, '40, '41, '46, '48, '52, '65, '66, '67, '68, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
Reds [Boston AA]:(1) 1891
 
Reds:(44) '02, '13, '19, '20, '23, '26, '27, '32,  '33, '37, '39, '40, '41, '47, '52, '56, '57, '59, '62, '63, '64, '65, '67, '68, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '84, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96, '99
 
Rockies:(4) '95, '97, '98, 2009
 
Royals:(14) '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '80, '82, '83, '85, '86, '89, '90, '91, 2004
 
Senators:(12) '09, '20, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '30, '32, '33, '45, '54
 
Spiders:(3) 1891, 1892, 1894
 
Tigers:(35) '12, '15, '18, '21, '24, '26, '30, '34, '35, '36, '37, '39, '40, '41, '46, '51, '60, '61, '63, '66, '67, '68, '69, '72, '73, '77, '82, '84, '85, '87, '88, '94, 2005, 2008, 2009
 
Tip-Tops:(1) '15
 
Twins:(12) '63, '65, '66, '67, '69, '70, '87, '88, '91, '97, 2005, 2006
 
Whales:(1) '15
 
White Sox:(43) '06, '12, '13, '15, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '33, '34, '36, '37, '40, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '63, '64, '67, '68, '69, '74, '77, '86, '91, '92, '93, '95, '97, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
 
Wolverines:(1) 1887
 
Yankees:(92) '17, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '37, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '45, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '69, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
 
If anyone sees any mistakes here, please let me know.
 
 
 1052 teams used ((43 seasons x 24 teams) + (1 season x 20 teams)) - season 25 used the first 24 world series winners
5/27/2012 10:11 PM (edited)
owner - team (returning)
 
emperorp - 1945 New York Yankees
odalisgagne - 2009 Detroit Tigers
bottomlee - 1989 Boston Red Sox
newarkwilder - 1985 Philadelphia Phillies
trd3 - 1988 Seattle Mariners
cstrohmier - 1950 Brooklyn Dodgers
happyhours - 1951 St Louis Cardinals
darthdurron - 2009 Chicago White Sox
tabasko - 1906 New York Giants
sgsmith - 1964 St Louis Cardinals

lenbo1212 - 2008 Cleveland Indians
dn3524 - 2004 KC Royals
terry00 - 1973 Pittsburgh Pirates
ssaffle - 1967 Cleveland Indians
dewelch71 - 1967 New York Yankees
rowdyrk - 1891 Boston Reds
forte4him - 1994 Cincinnati Reds
toddcommish - 1912 Pittsburgh Pirates
italyprof - 1989 New York Yankees
the_swamp - 1979 Houston Astros

horus_6 - 1981 Baltimore Orioles
wetwillytwo - 2006 Seattle Mariners
eman7400 -  1963 Detroit Tigers
mailnowt - 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates
5/15/2012 3:16 PM (edited)
Wait List:
 
 
 
Old-timers returning in future:
 jgreene
wetwillytwo
gorbyruss
 
 
 
Leave your name if you want to be included. We usually have a couple of openings and we fill them on a first come, first served basis. Newbies are always welcome to try their hand. We've had a few guys win their first championship in this league.
 
* returning wannabe with 5+ seasons get moved to the front of the waitlist
2/18/2012 6:10 PM
Season - champ - team
 
1 - 1927 A's - odalisgagne
2 - 1909 A's (2)- gorbyruss
3 - 1900 Braves - gorbyruss [2]
4 - 1907 Cubs - buckyblues
5 - 2000 Astros - keiko
6 - 1892 Phillies - cpmitchno1
7 - 1895 Orioles - ssaffle
8 - 1942 Dodgers - gorbyruss [3]
9 - 1982 Brewers - jgreene
10 - 1976 Royals - mfumar
11 - 1982 Red Sox - cpmitchno1 [2]
12 - 1998 Indians - cpmitchno1 [3]
13 - 1946 Yankees - ronthegenius
14 - 1901 Pirates - dalailama12
15 - 1968 Cardinals - dn3524
16 - 1967 Astros (2) - gorbyruss [4]
17 - 2000 Devil Rays - calhoop
18 - 1916 White Sox - bgalle54
19 - 1999 Cardinals (2)- dn3524 [2]
20 - 1927 Cardinals (3)- bgalle54 [2]
21 - 1930 Tigers - odalisgagne [2]
22 - 1989 Cardinals (4) - dn3524 [3]
23 - 1983 A's (3) - combalt
24 - 1993 Mariners - wetwillytwo
25 - 2000 Astros - keiko [2] (winner of WS league)
26 - 1971 Pirates (2) - sgsmith
27 - 1973 A's (4) - ssaffle [2]
28 - 1930 Yankees (2) - MMTDad
29 - 2000 Red Sox (2) - odalisgagne [3]
30 - 2007 Red Sox (3) - brucel
31 - 1968 Cubs (2) - tgrun
32 - 1948 Yankees (3) - mfumar [2]
33 - 2002 Dodgers (2) - wetwillytwo [2]
34 - 1949 Yankees (4) - emperorp
35 - 1968 Giants - darthdurron
36 - 1991 Cubs (3) - mac195 
37 - 1997 Dodgers (3) - stroh23
38 - 1965 Cardinals (5) - mac195 [2]
39 - 1952 Dodgers (4) - emperorp [2]
40 - 1993 Brewers (2) - cstrohmier
41 - 1970 Astros (3) - darthdurron [2]
42 - 1944 Cardinals (6) - sgsmith [2]
43 - 1989 Phillies (2) - stroh23 [2]
44 - 1990 Red Sox (4) - bottomlee
2/18/2012 6:10 PM
some odd minutia about the blacklist
 
longest stretch of teams taken
48 - Yankees 1920-1967
28 - Orioles 1955-1982
26 - Red Sox 1986-2011
21 - Yankees 1971-1991
20 - Dodgers 1950-1969
19 - Yankees 1993-2011
19 - Mariners 1988-2006
15 - Giants 1959-1973
15 - Cubs 1960-1974
14 - Indians 1946-1959
14 - Red Sox 1971-1984
14 - Dodgers 1996-2009
13 - Cardinals 1959-1971
13 - Cardinals 1997-2009
13 - Astros 1979-1991
12 - Cardinals 1923-1934
12 - Phillies 1975-1986
 
 
 
 
longest spread between teams
36 years - A's 1933-1969
26 years - Dodgers 1900-1926
 
1008 of 2413~ Teams have been used (approx 41.7%)
 
93 of 106 World Series winners have been used
Season XLIV - 
 
299 of 386 Playoff teams have been used
Season XLIV - 
 
95 of 97 One hundred Win teams have been used
Season XLIV - none
 
20 of 135 One hundred Loss teams have been used
Season XLI - none
 
Highest Percentage of teams used of a single season
1967 - 65% - (13 of 20)
1900 - 63% - (5 of 8)
1956 - 63% - (10 of 16)
1990 - 62% - (16 of 26)
1968 - 60% - (12 of 20)
1991 - 58% - (15 of 26)
2004 - 57% - (17 of 30)
1933 - 56% - (9 of 16)
2005 - 53% - (16 of 30)
 
 
 
Lowest Percentage of teams used of a single season
1903, 1905 - 6% - (1 of 16)
 
Season that haven't been used
1890
 
Highest Pct of Franchise Seasons Used
70.9% - New York Yankees (78/110)
63.2% - Baltimore Orioles (36/57)
53.8% - Arizona Diamondbacks (7/13)
53.1% - New York Mets (26/49)
52.9% - Seattle Mariners (18/34)
51.6% - St Louis Cardinals (64/124)
47.6% - Los Angeles Dodgers (59/124)
45.3% - SF/NY Giants (58/128)
44.9% - Houston Astros (22/49)
42.7% - Boston Red Sox (47/110)
41.8% - Cleveland Indians (46/110)
 
 
 
only clubs to have a team twisted in every decade since 1900
Cleveland Indians and NY/SF Giants and Philadelphia Phillies
 
1907 Cubs, 1949 Yankees, 1971 Pirates, 1973 A's and 2007 Red Sox - only teams to win real WS and then a Wannabe WS
5/13/2012 7:25 PM (edited)
Before I take my team, I want to thank all the owners who kept nudging me along towards starting Wannabe 45. Its nice to see the league still around. It might be the second oldest continual league.
2/18/2012 6:14 PM
only because nature abhors a vacuum, 1944 New York Yankees
2/18/2012 6:18 PM
og picked the 2009 Tigers back on 1.18.12

yeah, so I guess I was dragging my feet.
2/18/2012 6:19 PM
filling in the blanks......1989 Redsox......the '90 version made it to the TOC final 4...lost 4g-3g
2/18/2012 7:33 PM
Posted by emperorp on 2/18/2012 6:19:00 PM (view original):
og picked the 2009 Tigers back on 1.18.12

yeah, so I guess I was dragging my feet.
well, at least you saved the sitemail.
2/18/2012 8:14 PM
awesome to see wannabe back. (even if you took the '44 Yankees team I was coveting ) I'll figure out my team sometime soon.
2/18/2012 9:51 PM
I will return.
2/18/2012 10:30 PM
1950 Brooklyn Dodgers
2/18/2012 10:48 PM
1988 Mariners
2/19/2012 1:18 AM
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