Posted by schwarze on 12/14/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):
If we do three different caps, I like 80, 100, 120. Not too extreme one way or the other.

I to like this idea, but i did not draft to use 3 different caps so i hope we don't do this now. I would gladly do another draft and use different caps.

I guess I'd do three separate caps, but I'm pretty fascinated with unlimited.

How about unlimited with all players 1920's or above? (Or, three caps, 1920's+.)

With salary caps in place, your later round picks would have an impact. And we would surely see less superstar players, to get under an $80M cap.

Posted by happyhours on 12/14/2018 8:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by schwarze on 12/14/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):
If we do three different caps, I like 80, 100, 120. Not too extreme one way or the other.

I to like this idea, but i did not draft to use 3 different caps so i hope we don't do this now. I would gladly do another draft and use different caps.

It was the original idea, but commish changed it before the draft.

For future editions of this theme, 80, 100, and 120 wouldn't be as challenging as something like 70-90, 120-140, 255

All picks are in and I'm pretty sure no matches again. About 45 minutes from home and will post soon.

This was the way the original concept was posted but it languished from May 5 for about 6 months and never filled. Actually, the original post did have more radical caps (I believe 160/ 120/ 60) and was going to go all the way to 50 players each to be distributed among the 3 teams. The way this draft has played out I really like the "Silent Auction" format both as a participant and especially as commissioner. I also like having to use each player on all teams (unlike the concept below)

There will be a mega draft in snake fashion consisting of 14 rounds:

Each owner will play 3 simultaneous teams. One at 140mm cap, one at 120mm cap and one at 100mm cap.

Round 1-3 - one player taken
Round 4-6 - two players taken
Round 7-9 - three players taken
Round 10 -12 - four players taken
Round 13-14 - five players taken


Edit: Even though there will be so many multi-player rounds, we will go with 30-minute intervals. One full round per day.

After that draft in which 960 different players will be drafted, each owner will have 40 exclusive players.

Each owner will then create their 3 teams using only those 40 exclusive players.

However

1) There will be no clones allowed on any single team for those players that are used on more than one team, and

2) You cannot use the same player year on multiple teams.

3) Furthermore, you must use every player you drafted at least once.

If there is interest in playing other variations, I am all for it.

So if i am reading right each league is 255mil, is that not correct?

Posted by happyhours on 12/15/2018 12:29:00 PM (view original):
So if i am reading right each league is 255mil, is that not correct?

Yes. Each league will have a 255mm cap

Posted by happyhours on 12/15/2018 12:29:00 PM (view original):
So if i am reading right each league is 255mil, is that not correct?

Yes for THIS theme that is correct, all 3 teams are 255. All of this discussion about salary caps is for potential future themes.

I agree with ozo's idea of one 255 cap and then 2 lower caps, something like 80-120-255.

Posted by ozomatli on 12/14/2018 10:11:00 PM (view original):
For future editions of this theme, 80, 100, and 120 wouldn't be as challenging as something like 70-90, 120-140, 255

I disagree. Including a 255 cap makes it easier. With basically no cap restrictions, it's easy to stick bad options on the 255M roster.

If the highest cap was in the 120-140 range, you really can't afford to waste too many roster spots on players with just one usable season. In this current format, I have enough 3-way players where basically the last 6 or 7 rounds, I have drafted players with 1 season and just dump the other seasons of that player onto the other two rosters with no cap ramifications.

I would go 80, 100, 120 or 80, 110, 140 or if you must 80, 120, 160.

I think the three-tier and totally unlimited each have interesting aspects. (For now anyway, I'm enjoying unlimited and let bench jockeys be bench jockeys. I've sacrificed super pinch-hitters or platooners, but I suppose "that's baseball.")

I see where Schwarze is coming from. It's fun to play unlimited this time -- and maybe another time, I'd like to take what I've learned and have another crack at it! But after that, I think it would be more fun to do tiers and mull over how we can utilize players on the three scales.

Three tiers also opens the door in early rounds to an array of players that aren't Ruth, Lajoie, Cobb, Speaker, Wagner, Bonds, and suchlike. However, that would take away from the elimination part -- we'd get fewer eliminations, whereas it would be more fun if there were a way for us to run into more of them.

By the way, SportsHub being what it is, they should provide us an option where everyone kicks in five bucks for the winnings.

Posted by schwarze on 12/15/2018 1:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ozomatli on 12/14/2018 10:11:00 PM (view original):
For future editions of this theme, 80, 100, and 120 wouldn't be as challenging as something like 70-90, 120-140, 255

I disagree. Including a 255 cap makes it easier. With basically no cap restrictions, it's easy to stick bad options on the 255M roster.

If the highest cap was in the 120-140 range, you really can't afford to waste too many roster spots on players with just one usable season. In this current format, I have enough 3-way players where basically the last 6 or 7 rounds, I have drafted players with 1 season and just dump the other seasons of that player onto the other two rosters with no cap ramifications.

I would go 80, 100, 120 or 80, 110, 140 or if you must 80, 120, 160.

Maybe “interesting” is a better word than “challenging” here. I am fond of the idea of having to decide how aggressive to be with regard to the 255M theme.

Including a 255M Option forces us to consider guys like Ruth, Walsh, etc. How you balance creating a maximized high cap team against the lower options is a more interesting problem, to me.

I began this draft not knowing the caps had been removed. No big deal, but I might have reached higher in the earlier rounds.

I think the caps would definitely be a challenge, especially with one below $100M.