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Simmons/Murray
Lillard/Russell/Evans
Horford/Gordon
Deandre/Bogut/Daniels
Parish/Bogut/Nurkic

A couple years Simmons/Murray will probably be the SG because of Simmons’ kooky positional eligibility. Gordon will probably get a few SG minutes in one of those seasons. Evans may actually cover a handful of SF minutes one season too. The post rotation will be a little different every season.
11/25/2023 10:55 PM
It is going to be all over the place. Oladipo will be playing his one season. McMillan will backup Kidd in 4 seasons. It will be a tough team to evaluate outside of “maybe fine”

usage is all over the place. Could be enough defense to hide Love.
11/26/2023 9:52 AM
Name Round Starting Teams Made Mins Used Unused Drafted Mins
Harden 1 4 5 159 0
Artis 2 5 5 201 0
Horace 3 4 5 160 0
Pau 4 3 5 169 5
K. Anderson 5 1 4 86 18
Deron 6 1 5 105 48
Batum 7 3 4 67 44
Kessler 8 1 1 21 0
Roundfield 9 2 3 66 73
Okongwu 10 0 3 41 2
Pressey 11 1 3 59 85
Bosh 12 0 5 57 106

I love to tinker, so this will be evolving as the season goes but here's what I'm looking at now.
11/26/2023 12:12 PM
I finally put my teams together. I still have some tweaks as well, and need to check that my starting lineups actually make sense, but to oversimplify it basically looks like this:

Manu x5 / Conley x3 / Rozier x2
Fat x4 / C Maxwell backing up and starting once
Harrell x5 / Mirotic x2ish / Hot Rod x5
AD x5 / KP x4ish
Wallace x5 / McGee x5

Despite having plenty of usage we are shockingly low on turnovers, with low fouls and really nice defense, especially inside. That had better make a big difference because in just about every other category I'm looking worse than last time around, with especially big hits to EFG and FTM. I feel reasonably good but if the TS just isn't there and I fall off a cliff this season I won't be totally shocked either.
11/26/2023 11:54 PM (edited)
My lineups look like this so far (amount of starting appearances are in parenthesis):

PG: Bane (2); Porter (1); Rondo (1); Pat Bev (1)
SG: Green (4); Looney (1); Bane
SF: Brand (4); Looney (1); Tillman
PF: Jokic (4); Drummond (1)
C: McAdoo (2); Jokic (1); Boerwinkle (1); Drummond (1)

The fouls are heavier than I wanted, but the tradeoff for rebounds and the number of possessions I lost with that before may be worth it. Brand's usage is a bit high for the middling efg performance but playing him as SF will help with rebounding and defense. Boerwinkle's one good season will start one time as a bit of a change of pace the other seasons will be fill-ins. McAdoo was drafted because when I looked at the players available he was the best player out there. I decided to not get too cute with the pick. I felt that I got much of what I wanted. Everything after Looney was designed to fill-in the point guard hole I had (thus drafting Rondo, Porter, Bane, and PatBev) and the other sundry of holes I could cover with some solid-performing subs.
11/27/2023 10:23 AM
My team sucks super hard at shooting. I guess it is kind of okay at most other things.
11/27/2023 1:04 PM
Posted by PBandJ on 11/27/2023 10:23:00 AM (view original):
My lineups look like this so far (amount of starting appearances are in parenthesis):

PG: Bane (2); Porter (1); Rondo (1); Pat Bev (1)
SG: Green (4); Looney (1); Bane
SF: Brand (4); Looney (1); Tillman
PF: Jokic (4); Drummond (1)
C: McAdoo (2); Jokic (1); Boerwinkle (1); Drummond (1)

The fouls are heavier than I wanted, but the tradeoff for rebounds and the number of possessions I lost with that before may be worth it. Brand's usage is a bit high for the middling efg performance but playing him as SF will help with rebounding and defense. Boerwinkle's one good season will start one time as a bit of a change of pace the other seasons will be fill-ins. McAdoo was drafted because when I looked at the players available he was the best player out there. I decided to not get too cute with the pick. I felt that I got much of what I wanted. Everything after Looney was designed to fill-in the point guard hole I had (thus drafting Rondo, Porter, Bane, and PatBev) and the other sundry of holes I could cover with some solid-performing subs.
I love Jokic so much - but I'm not sure this is enough post defense. Brand will be stuck defending the 3 with no post players who can flex to defend there.
11/27/2023 1:42 PM
Posted by tarheel1991 on 11/27/2023 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by PBandJ on 11/27/2023 10:23:00 AM (view original):
My lineups look like this so far (amount of starting appearances are in parenthesis):

PG: Bane (2); Porter (1); Rondo (1); Pat Bev (1)
SG: Green (4); Looney (1); Bane
SF: Brand (4); Looney (1); Tillman
PF: Jokic (4); Drummond (1)
C: McAdoo (2); Jokic (1); Boerwinkle (1); Drummond (1)

The fouls are heavier than I wanted, but the tradeoff for rebounds and the number of possessions I lost with that before may be worth it. Brand's usage is a bit high for the middling efg performance but playing him as SF will help with rebounding and defense. Boerwinkle's one good season will start one time as a bit of a change of pace the other seasons will be fill-ins. McAdoo was drafted because when I looked at the players available he was the best player out there. I decided to not get too cute with the pick. I felt that I got much of what I wanted. Everything after Looney was designed to fill-in the point guard hole I had (thus drafting Rondo, Porter, Bane, and PatBev) and the other sundry of holes I could cover with some solid-performing subs.
I love Jokic so much - but I'm not sure this is enough post defense. Brand will be stuck defending the 3 with no post players who can flex to defend there.
Oh, I am positive this isn't enough post defense...lol!
11/27/2023 4:09 PM
sorry no league #s out tonight like i had planned...didnt get much time to work on my teams over the weekend and i thought i could put everything together today...but i just spent the last 3 hours tinkering with lineups and running sim matchups and i think i hate my team now haha...i want another deep dive into potential lineups(hopefully tomorrow night, but definitely by wednesday night) before i give up and admit that lavine was a bad choice and i didnt draft enough boards
11/27/2023 7:25 PM
While we wait, go sign up for the ODL! Two spots left and we will start drafting as soon as it fills.
11/27/2023 8:41 PM
I was really close to drafting Luka in the 2nd to pair with Harden and I kind of wish I did. Not necessarily because I regret my build. Just because it’d be insane and I want to know what would happen with that pairing.
11/27/2023 10:40 PM
Posted by dBKC on 11/27/2023 10:40:00 PM (view original):
I was really close to drafting Luka in the 2nd to pair with Harden and I kind of wish I did. Not necessarily because I regret my build. Just because it’d be insane and I want to know what would happen with that pairing.
Yeah the biggest problem with either of those guys is finding a backup that approximates their usage, so pairing them together would have some benefits.
11/28/2023 8:31 AM
It is really hard when your team has one just obvious, glaring flaw... I just spend so much time staring at it.
11/28/2023 10:06 AM
That's why you should draft a team with lots of flaws
11/28/2023 12:26 PM
Posted by tarheel1991 on 11/28/2023 12:26:00 PM (view original):
That's why you should draft a team with lots of flaws
I'M ON IT, CHIEF
11/28/2023 3:58 PM
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