thats probably right robusk--generally ultras are on trails--so that is partly the reason. The top 24 hour racers do 130-150ish miles. Generally on pavement going in 1 mile or so circles. If IÂ even just do 100 miles, Id probably be top 10. And this is the National Championship. So coming in the top 10 in the national Championship would sound way more impressive than it actually is. IÂ really wish Id have the time and energy to properly train for one of these.