Posted by deathinahole on 7/29/2012 3:29:00 PM (view original):
Well, while jclarkbakeout and bwb, the math genius continue to argue that 190 is the same as 185, the world goes on.

Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/29/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by deathinahole on 7/29/2012 3:29:00 PM (view original):
Well, while jclarkbakeout and bwb, the math genius continue to argue that 190 is the same as 185, the world goes on.

So sad. The whole circle jerk group of guys who have proclaimed themselves some type of authority at HBD (sad in itself), cannot even comprehend the argument.

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/29/2012 3:33:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/29/2012 2:20:00 PM (view original):
I would not call a player for cash deal collusion unless the trade is not fair.

You know, it's funny.  Some of the no cash trade guys admit that they use their veto to try to kill any deal that hurts them.  They further argue that getting cash is an advantage for the person getting it.  Is it not advantageous to kill a deal that may hurt you?

Name names.   Who said "I use my veto to try to kill any deal that hurts me"?

Or just quote their post.

 

Homer nods.

I read one of deathinshole's posts incorrectly.

So it wasn't even "some"?  It was just one and you misunderstood their post? 

How odd.

I haven't read at a sixth grade level since nursery school. Hard to get back down to that level.

That really wasn't the point of my response.

You said "some".  It was "one".   And you were incorrect about that one.

Don't you think it's a bit disingenuous to say "some" in this case?

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/29/2012 3:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/29/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by deathinahole on 7/29/2012 3:29:00 PM (view original):
Well, while jclarkbakeout and bwb, the math genius continue to argue that 190 is the same as 185, the world goes on.

So sad. The whole circle jerk group of guys who have proclaimed themselves some type of authority at HBD (sad in itself), cannot even comprehend the argument.

Please quote the post(s) of those who "proclaimed themselves some type of authority at HBD".

I assume you'll have the same luck as you had with the previous request.

Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/29/2012 3:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/29/2012 3:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/29/2012 3:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by deathinahole on 7/29/2012 3:29:00 PM (view original):
Well, while jclarkbakeout and bwb, the math genius continue to argue that 190 is the same as 185, the world goes on.

So sad. The whole circle jerk group of guys who have proclaimed themselves some type of authority at HBD (sad in itself), cannot even comprehend the argument.

Please quote the post(s) of those who "proclaimed themselves some type of authority at HBD".

I assume you'll have the same luck as you had with the previous request.

Holy ****, are you, of all people, serious?

Yep.  Quote the posts.

Posted by deathinahole on 7/29/2012 3:43:00 PM (view original):
I proclaim myself an expect on the value of 190 as compared to 185!

Posted by tecwrg on 7/29/2012 3:28:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/29/2012 2:13:00 PM (view original):
Am I contending that what doesn't happen"  That some moron just throws in cash and doesn't ask for anything in return?  I am sure it does.  Said person is a fool.

As to vetoing, if the trade is fair, you let it go.  If it is not, you veto.

Again, you avoid answering the question.  SHOCKING!  Though typical in arguments such as these when the answer will undermine the position they are so vehemently trying to defend.

What question?

"So let me recap the question - which is easier; receiving $5m in cash to allow the deal to go through, or having to clear $5m in cap space via a separate deal (or even this deal) to make it go through?"

Posted by deathinahole on 7/29/2012 3:50:00 PM (view original):
I've thrown in the towel.

There was a good discussion with oe about the chicken and egg effect of cash in a trade; ie, a good owner is in a position to accept cash in a trade, thus is it cash in trade keeping him on top, or he's on top therefore attracts cash in trade scenarios?

Interesting food for thought.

Then tweedledee and tweedledum wander in with their anti math, and it's screw it.

Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/29/2012 3:54:00 PM (view original):
If the objective is getting $, once I clear cap space I do not have to do the deal.

Deathinthehole, see what happened there?