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Posted by RCBracco on 5/22/2016 2:34:00 PM (view original):
Things I hate

Republicans
New Yorkers
Born Again A.Holes
Dougie
I'm a proud New Yorker. And I hate people with Napoleon complexes.
5/22/2016 3:06 PM
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I'm sure the folks you hate stay up late at night fretting over it.
5/22/2016 3:12 PM
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Than, dumbass, than. Please, if nothing else, learn the difference between then/than. You're too ******* old to be that stupid.
5/22/2016 3:31 PM
Time and time again, anyone reading the mainstream news or reading articles on the Internet will read the claim that President Clinton not only balanced the budget, but had a surplus. This is then used as an argument to further highlight the fiscal irresponsibility of the federal government under the Bush administration.

The claim is generally made that Clinton had a surplus of $69 billion in FY1998, $123 billion in FY1999 and $230 billion in FY2000 . In that same link, Clinton claimed that the national debt had been reduced by $360 billion in the last three years, presumably FY1998, FY1999, and FY2000--though, interestingly, $360 billion is not the sum of the alleged surpluses of the three years in question ($69B + $123B + $230B = $422B, not $360B).

While not defending the increase of the federal debt under President Bush, it's curious to see Clinton's record promoted as having generated a surplus. It never happened. There was never a surplus and the facts support that position. In fact, far from a $360 billion reduction in the national debt in FY1998-FY2000, there was an increase of $281 billion.

Verifying this is as simple as accessing the U.S. Treasury (see note about this link below) website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained. Considering the government's fiscal year ends on the last day of September each year, and considering Clinton's budget proposal in 1993 took effect in October 1993 and concluded September 1994 (FY1994), here's the national debt at the end of each year of Clinton Budgets:
Fiscal
Year
Year
Ending
National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion


As can clearly be seen, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit. Yes, the deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of "only" $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero--let alone a positive surplus number. And Clinton's last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

Keep in mind that President Bush took office in January 2001 and his first budget took effect October 1, 2001 for the year ending September 30, 2002 (FY2002). So the $133.29 billion deficit in the year ending September 2001 was Clinton's. Granted, Bush supported a tax refund where taxpayers received checks in 2001. However, the total amount refunded to taxpayers was only $38 billion . So even if we assume that $38 billion of the FY2001 deficit was due to Bush's tax refunds which were not part of Clinton's last budget, that still means that Clinton's last budget produced a deficit of 133.29 - 38 = $95.29 billion.

Clinton clearly did not achieve a surplus and he didn't leave President Bush with a surplus.
5/22/2016 4:39 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/22/2016 3:31:00 PM (view original):
Than, dumbass, than. Please, if nothing else, learn the difference between then/than. You're too ******* old to be that stupid.
I am old enough not to give a crap. My meaning was clear and that is all that I care about. Lets see how much you care when your eighty.
5/22/2016 5:19 PM
Doug...I had a class in college called "How to lie with numbers" I see you took the same class
5/22/2016 5:21 PM
Posted by RCBracco on 5/22/2016 5:21:00 PM (view original):
Doug...I had a class in college called "How to lie with numbers" I see you took the same class


Now he's trying to have a conversation with Doug while mentioning college. They're so cute when they try to act smart.
5/22/2016 6:26 PM




And the best part is this whole trip is being paid for by the "Clinton Foundation."
5/22/2016 6:38 PM
Posted by RCBracco on 5/22/2016 3:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Bernie10025 on 5/22/2016 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by RCBracco on 5/22/2016 2:34:00 PM (view original):
Things I hate

Republicans
New Yorkers
Born Again A.Holes
Dougie
I'm a proud New Yorker. And I hate people with Napoleon complexes.
How could you find anything to be proud of as a New Yorker?
Your question speaks for itself.
5/22/2016 7:14 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 5/22/2016 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Trump still losing
Poll Date Trump (R) Clinton (D) Spread
RCP Average 5/13 - 5/19 43.4 43.2 Trump +0.2
ABC/WP 5/16 - 5/19 46 44 Trump +2
NBC/WSJ 5/15 - 5/19 43 46 Clinton +3
Rasmussen 5/17 - 5/18 42 37 Trump +5
FOX News 5/14 - 5/17 45 42 Trump +3
CBS/NYT 5/13 - 5/17 41 47 Clinton +6
5/22/2016 10:18 PM
^^^^ you need a better argument

#trendingtrump

Trump is now ahead of Clinton.
5/22/2016 10:18 PM
Make America Great Again!
5/22/2016 11:23 PM
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