What Is A "Fair Share" When It Comes To Taxes? Topic

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And I'd also like the clothes on my back paid for.

Man its easy making decisions about other peoples money when it doesn't involve my money.
9/6/2011 7:42 AM
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I think anyone that can afford to shop at whole foods should be taxed until all they can afford is aldi's. I mean really, its not fair they get to eat so well when others don't.
9/6/2011 8:06 AM
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Posted by moy23 on 9/6/2011 7:42:00 AM (view original):
And I'd also like the clothes on my back paid for.

Man its easy making decisions about other peoples money when it doesn't involve my money.
It is easy.   I like free stuff too!!!
9/6/2011 8:08 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 9/6/2011 8:08:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 9/6/2011 7:42:00 AM (view original):
And I'd also like the clothes on my back paid for.

Man its easy making decisions about other peoples money when it doesn't involve my money.
It is easy.   I like free stuff too!!!
Ask any of these guys ******** about the rich not paying their fair share to pay 5% more in taxes themselves and they would go ape ****. I'm pretty sure if they can afford to pay money to Wis they can afford to feed a few more starving babies.... afterall what is it $0.13 a day can feed a starving kid in Africa.
9/6/2011 8:14 AM
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Posted by cleon on 9/6/2011 7:25:00 AM (view original):

BETWEEN 250-5OOK ANNUAL INCOME------30% TI

BETWEEN 501K-999K-----40%

BETWEEN 1MILL-3MILL---50%

3MILL+UP------55%

NO WRITEOFFS,NO SHELTERS, NO OFFSHORE HAVENS

 

So if this decreases revenues to the treasury (which it most likely would) and government gets to do less (well, you know what I mean), you would be okay with that?

So if the same write-offs that most enjoy now, such as charitable contributions, mortgage interest deductions, etc. that you would take away from them should be taken away from all, right?
9/6/2011 8:16 AM
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No just take the deductions away from anyone that makes more than me... and also tax them more.
9/6/2011 8:27 AM
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ONLY APPLIES TO 250K + UP

MY CUTS TO MILITARY, CORPORATE WELFARE AND FORCED REPATRIATION OF ALL FOREIGN ASSETS SHOULD OFFSET THAT
9/6/2011 8:32 AM
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I'm in the top bracket (more than $127.201) in Canada and about 29 per cent of my total income went to federal and provincial taxes. I have no idea how that would compare to somebody in the States. I suspect it's probably higher here and I've really got no complaints about it.

There's also a 5 per cent national sales tax called the GST that applies to most goods and services but I have no idea what I paid out last year on that last year.
9/6/2011 9:10 AM
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Posted by moy23 on 9/6/2011 8:14:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/6/2011 8:08:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 9/6/2011 7:42:00 AM (view original):
And I'd also like the clothes on my back paid for.

Man its easy making decisions about other peoples money when it doesn't involve my money.
It is easy.   I like free stuff too!!!
Ask any of these guys ******** about the rich not paying their fair share to pay 5% more in taxes themselves and they would go ape ****. I'm pretty sure if they can afford to pay money to Wis they can afford to feed a few more starving babies.... afterall what is it $0.13 a day can feed a starving kid in Africa.
I don't know what the average salary in the US is but let's just say 40k.    Let's just assume we have 185m who actually work.  Everyone pays 1% more.  Unless my math is wrong, that's 74 billion.   Would that help?
9/6/2011 10:05 AM
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Posted by cleon on 9/6/2011 8:32:00 AM (view original):
ONLY APPLIES TO 250K + UP

MY CUTS TO MILITARY, CORPORATE WELFARE AND FORCED REPATRIATION OF ALL FOREIGN ASSETS SHOULD OFFSET THAT
You obviously expect all other activity to remain the same and no reactions to your proposed policies.  How 'bout a simple look.

I just made (hypothetically) 980,000 this year.   At 40% TI rate, my tax would be 392,000.

I decide to expand my small business, which I count as personal income, to make 1,020,000, or 40,000 more.  I now pay 510,000 in taxes, or 118,000 more.  So I get to pay the government all of the money I just made with the additional effort PLUS another 78,000 on top of that.

Why would I do that?

I would also ask how is it possibly fair that someone making $240,000 per year can deduct $20,000 in mortgage interest, yet someone making $255,000 can deduct ZERO.  There's nothing inherently just or fair about that.  If the only justification is that the rest want more in services and deserve more of other people's money, then you are advocating living in tyranny.

By the way, what makes anyone think 'forced repatriation of foreign assets' would help here?
9/6/2011 10:11 AM
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cleon has about 27 aliases.   Responding to his nonsense is pointless.  He's pot-stirring.  

If you must respond, only use ALL CAPS AND EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!
9/6/2011 10:24 AM
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I'LL HAVE MY ECONOMIC TEAM FINE TUNE THE MORE CONFUSING ASPECTS FOR YE.

WE WILL ELIMINATE ALL MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTIONS

YOU WOULD DO IT FOR PURELY PATRIOTIC REASONS

TIME TO PAY THE PIPER, PALEFACE!
9/6/2011 10:33 AM
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AND YE SHOULD GIVE TO CHARITY OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF YER HEART, NOT FOR THE WRITE OFF

THOSE END TOO
9/6/2011 10:45 AM
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Charity takes a hit. 

9/6/2011 10:57 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 9/6/2011 10:57:00 AM (view original):

Charity takes a hit. 

That it does.

I give to charity for my own reasons, not because of the deduction.  But removing the deduction has an effect of course because I end up having less to give...
9/6/2011 11:50 AM
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