Posted by DougOut on 7/27/2019 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 7/26/2019 9:22:00 PM (view original):
Study: What a conservative echo chamber teaches you, or in other words, delusion:
- People in border cities are scared of asylum seekers
- We can't accept people into the country because of our deficit
- Liberals are illogical and only care about feelings, conservatives are pragmatic
- The wall is chump change, and is more effective than deploying aid to central america
- Closing ports of entry somehow affects Mexico
- Trump didn't dramatically change the immigration law in America
- The best way to solve for the deficit is by closing the border
Stay tuned, folks.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK:
1.) People in border cities are scared of asylum seekers.
1A) NOT TRUE. Most people coming through the border are not asylum seekers. WE are scared of the OTHER people.
2.) We can't accept people into the country because of our deficit.
2A) STRAWMAN argument. Classic liberal tactic. Although they more than strain our resources and destroy the future of our children and our Nation, the real reason they are not to be accepted is because of...(wait for it)...THE LAW. And as you know, liberals ignore the law.
3.) Liberals are illogical and only care about feelings, conservatives are pragmatic.
3A) TRUE. Also liberals are ill educated, under educated, mis educated, propagandized, lied to, phished, angry, lost, violent, misguided. cruel, unfair, one sided, racist, gullible and willing to force their ignorance upon others.
4.) The wall is chump change, and is more effective than deploying aidE to Central America.
4A) TRUE
5.) Closing ports of entry somehow affects Mexico.
5A) I don't know about Mexico but it sure does affect me. LEGAL OR YOU DON'T GET IN.
6.) Trump didn't dramatically change the immigration law in America.
6A) TRUE. Obama did. EVERY LAW PASSED SINCE TED KENNEDY has been pushed for by the democrats. The republicans are also guilty. Trump only went back to pre-obamas. AND OUR LAWS ARE STILL NOT BEING OBSERVED. And that's what they want. Lawlessness until they take over.
7.) The best way to solve for the deficit is by closing the border.
7A) FALSE. That's the first time I ever heard that. IT'S THE NEW STRAWMAN! But I will allow I don't get every piece of information before all of you. I'm just a working stiff trying to survive. Maybe I didn't get the news. On the other hand...let's see if tang can post articles to back his claim.
Doug, I don't think you realize that this post was in reference to my discussion with CCCP in your thread. None of my statements were strawmen, because they were all arguments that Comrade made. In addition, everything that I have and will say on this issue is backed up with many credible sources. I posted a link to many of these also in your thread. Go check those receipts. That said...
2) Actually, it's conservatives who ignore the law. You fail to recognize that asylum is a legal process. Criminalizing asylum is, in fact, showing a blatant disregard for the rule of law.
4) Even the lowest estimates of the cost of the wall have it more pricey than the AFP.
#5) OK, so you should have no issue with asylum seekers, as crossing the border to seek asylum is completely legal.
#6) The Trump tax plan was not pushed for by Democrats. Trump has drastically changed our immigration system. He campaigned on immigration reform.
#7) It's a horrible argument, especially because economists generally agree that immigrants are good for the economy.
If you want me to cite these claims, I can.