Posted by tecwrg on 12/9/2016 8:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/9/2016 6:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 12/9/2016 6:41:00 PM (view original):
This has nothing to do with Mike. It really doesn't even have anything to do with Edgar Martinez. It has everything to do with PSBL's narrow view that all situations are the same, and that a walk is always better than swinging the bat.
My point is there are going to be times when you want your best hitter being a bit more aggressive in trying to put the ball in play, rather than passively accepting a walk. Dahs seems to think this means flailing at pitches outside the strike zone. He's wrong (big surprise!). It means not necessarily taking pitches in the zone that are not "your pitch", particularly in situations when base hits have noticeably more value than a walk, i.e. there are runners on base.
PSBL stubbornly refuses to admit that such situations exist. He continues to insist that "Hey, if he walks, that's great!!!" Because I don't think he understands that baseball is more than just numbers on a stat sheet or a probability chart. It's played on a field with real people, and games usually have a heartbeat and a pulse beyond what shows up in the box score the next day.
Um...looks like you're the one trying to rehash the same argument over and over and over again.
No one has ever argued that all situations are all the same. That's a strawman that you invented in your own mind when I said that an out is an out.
This is funny. You're the one trying to argue with Mike over Edgar Martinez and walks, yet I'm the one "trying to rehash the same argument over and over and over again".
You can't make this **** up.
Hmmm, I bet there's a way to figure this out. Let's look at what happened.
Someone else joked about mike saying Martinez walked to much.
Mike denied saying it.
I provided the quote.
Then you jumped in to argue, but wanted to talk about outs and situations.
When I asked you what that had to do with EM, you said it had nothing to do with EM, it had to do with my view of situations and walks/outs.
So yeah. You're the one trying to rehash an old argument.