We have people born with extra digits or none at all. The gene pool is mutating down, epigenetic influences aside.

Hermaphrodites have chromosomes too. ONLY two choices. XY or XX.

IF I haven't seen it, it doesn't exist!!

So says the wise Canuck.

I've never seen a dead man arise.
Should I still believe in Easter?

I've never seen the atmosphere.
Should I doubt its existence??

As you are the only Canadian poster round these parts............I've never read a post by an intelligent Canadian.
Should I doubt they exist?

Nevermind answering. We already know the quality of your responses.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/13/2022 9:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 7/13/2022 8:20:00 AM (view original):
"By the way, the A.C.L.U. was founded by Communists."

What?? Who says?

Prove this!

Or admit you're a loon!

A.C.L.U. = American Civil Liberties Union

THEY fight to preserve our INDIVIDUAL Liberties!

How is that Communistic?

You said it, now defend it!

Ussen LOVES ALL, including Trannies!

I am best to rephrase by saying founded by anarchists

Well, maybe. But they were formed to defend Free Speech!
An American value!

And what's wrong with Anarchists?
Some of our Founding MEN were essentially Anarchists but didn't know it!

Anarchy (as a Governing philosophy) hasn't destroyed anything that I am aware of.
I don't think it has ever been implemented on a National scale.
I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong.

At present, as a NON-Party voter, some MIGHT say I'm an anarchist.
I sure don't want those stupid Repugnants running my Country!!

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/14/2022 4:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/14/2022 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/13/2022 9:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/13/2022 7:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/12/2022 1:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/12/2022 5:35:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 7/11/2022 10:30:00 PM (view original):
Men should NOT be in women's restrooms.

transgender man who says a campground owner told him to use the women's bathroom on the site says he was beaten up by a group of men and arrested after a dispute with other guests over his presence there.

Noah Ruiz, who still has female body parts but identifies as a man, had tried to use the ladies' room at the campground in Preble County, Ohio, but a woman using the bathroom became upset he was in there because he is a man.

The 20-year-old told local news channel Fox 19: "I was using the bathroom, and she just started shouting. She was like, 'Who the f*** is in here?' And I replied, 'I am.' My girlfriend replied, 'I am as well.' She was like, 'No man should be in this bathroom. If you're a man you need to use a man's bathroom.' And I was like, 'I'm transgender. I have woman body parts, and I was told to use this bathroom.'"
...
Ruiz said that as he walked out of the restroom on July 3 following the argument with the woman in there, three men approached and attacked him: "They, like, grabbed me up off the ground. They choked me out. They said, 'I'll kill you, you f***, doing all this.' And I said, 'Dude, I'm not; I'm using the right bathroom. Rick Cross, the owner of this establishment, told me to use the bathroom. I'm following the rules."

After the alleged physical assault, the dispute continued to escalate with more campers arriving at the scene, police said. Preble County Sheriff Michael Simpson said: "When they arrived, deputies weren't aware of an assault. There was a large crowd gathering and Ruiz was highly intoxicated and was becoming belligerent."

Ruiz's mother, Jennifer Ruiz, told Fox 19 that her son had "got out of hand" by this point, but only because "no one was listening to him." Ruiz himself appeared to nod as his mother said he acknowledged he could have handled the situation differently at that point.

Deputies arrested Ruiz for disorderly conduct and obstructing official business. They did not know about the alleged assault that had previously occurred, the sheriff said, but Ruiz later filed an assault report. The sheriff's office said their investigation is continuing and they are looking for the men involved.

https://www.newsweek.com/trans-man-attacked-using-womens-restroom-ohio-1723432

Transgender and gender-nonbinary teens face greater risk of sexual assault in schools that prevent them from using bathrooms or locker rooms consistent with their gender identity, according to a recent study.

Researchers looked at data from a survey of nearly 3,700 U.S. teens aged 13-17. The study found that 36% of transgender or gender-nonbinary students with restricted bathroom or locker room access reported being sexually assaulted in the last 12 months, according to a May 6, 2019 CNN article. Of all students surveyed, 1 out of every 4, or 25.9%, reported being a victim of sexual assault in the past year.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/transgender-teens-restricted-bathroom-access-sexual-assault/

Congrats, conservatives. Your policies have led to more people getting sexually and physically assaulted. Happy now?

and your left policies are great examples of insanity

While I don't agree with assaulting Trans genders.. they are total freaks..having had their minds twisted by the wicked lefties.

YOU DON"T NEED A B,Sc to figure this out. You have a pole or you have a hole. One is male, the other is female

Pretty simple

HARVARD: The most over rated institution on the planet.. The don't teach, they destroy minds

and I would never hire anyone from there

What happens when "You have a pole or you have a hole. One is male, the other is female" isn't true?

I personally know people who were born hermaphroditic - IE, when they came out, they had both. How does that fit into your simple dichotomy?

I still want you to address this.

If God is perfect, and God thinks it's critically important that everyone is born with a clear and immutable biological gender, how does he allow people to be born with mixed genitals?

Never heard of such a bizarre thing. National Enquirer might tell that story though

Dude.
There are and have been numerous instances of this fallen world phenomenon over the years.

The scientific or scholarly (if you prefer) word for this phenomenon is hermaphrodite.

Educate yourself before speaking so glibly, as that attitude and show of ignorance will greatly overshadow any good your words may have intentioned.

Like the same folks who scoff at the idea of climate change as a money grab or pure BS are ironically (?) the same ones conjuring up conspiracy theories concerning 1000s of cattle dying in Kansas as a result of said climate change.

It's almost comical, except it is decidedly not so.

Show me ONE instance where someone was born with a hole and a pole. That said, I won't rule out the possibility of radio active poisoning doing something weird.. but I have never seen such a thing in over 70 years

I do not believe you know any such person

Show me one instance of you actually thinking for yourself, instead of just believing whatever the Bible tells you.
I do not believe you know how.

Can we please STOP with the "pole and a hole" schtick???

It's SO 4th grade.............

Posted by DougOut on 7/14/2022 4:49:00 AM (view original):
We have people born with extra digits or none at all. The gene pool is mutating down, epigenetic influences aside.

Hermaphrodites have chromosomes too. ONLY two choices. XY or XX.

This also isn't true. There are at least 10s of thousands of people alive right now who are XXY, XXX, XXYY, XXXX, XXXY, or XXXXY.

Actually, that's a wild underestimate. There are millions.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/14/2022 4:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bruceleefan on 7/14/2022 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/13/2022 9:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/13/2022 7:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/12/2022 1:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/12/2022 5:35:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 7/11/2022 10:30:00 PM (view original):
Men should NOT be in women's restrooms.

transgender man who says a campground owner told him to use the women's bathroom on the site says he was beaten up by a group of men and arrested after a dispute with other guests over his presence there.

Noah Ruiz, who still has female body parts but identifies as a man, had tried to use the ladies' room at the campground in Preble County, Ohio, but a woman using the bathroom became upset he was in there because he is a man.

The 20-year-old told local news channel Fox 19: "I was using the bathroom, and she just started shouting. She was like, 'Who the f*** is in here?' And I replied, 'I am.' My girlfriend replied, 'I am as well.' She was like, 'No man should be in this bathroom. If you're a man you need to use a man's bathroom.' And I was like, 'I'm transgender. I have woman body parts, and I was told to use this bathroom.'"
...
Ruiz said that as he walked out of the restroom on July 3 following the argument with the woman in there, three men approached and attacked him: "They, like, grabbed me up off the ground. They choked me out. They said, 'I'll kill you, you f***, doing all this.' And I said, 'Dude, I'm not; I'm using the right bathroom. Rick Cross, the owner of this establishment, told me to use the bathroom. I'm following the rules."

After the alleged physical assault, the dispute continued to escalate with more campers arriving at the scene, police said. Preble County Sheriff Michael Simpson said: "When they arrived, deputies weren't aware of an assault. There was a large crowd gathering and Ruiz was highly intoxicated and was becoming belligerent."

Ruiz's mother, Jennifer Ruiz, told Fox 19 that her son had "got out of hand" by this point, but only because "no one was listening to him." Ruiz himself appeared to nod as his mother said he acknowledged he could have handled the situation differently at that point.

Deputies arrested Ruiz for disorderly conduct and obstructing official business. They did not know about the alleged assault that had previously occurred, the sheriff said, but Ruiz later filed an assault report. The sheriff's office said their investigation is continuing and they are looking for the men involved.

https://www.newsweek.com/trans-man-attacked-using-womens-restroom-ohio-1723432

Transgender and gender-nonbinary teens face greater risk of sexual assault in schools that prevent them from using bathrooms or locker rooms consistent with their gender identity, according to a recent study.

Researchers looked at data from a survey of nearly 3,700 U.S. teens aged 13-17. The study found that 36% of transgender or gender-nonbinary students with restricted bathroom or locker room access reported being sexually assaulted in the last 12 months, according to a May 6, 2019 CNN article. Of all students surveyed, 1 out of every 4, or 25.9%, reported being a victim of sexual assault in the past year.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/transgender-teens-restricted-bathroom-access-sexual-assault/

Congrats, conservatives. Your policies have led to more people getting sexually and physically assaulted. Happy now?

and your left policies are great examples of insanity

While I don't agree with assaulting Trans genders.. they are total freaks..having had their minds twisted by the wicked lefties.

YOU DON"T NEED A B,Sc to figure this out. You have a pole or you have a hole. One is male, the other is female

Pretty simple

HARVARD: The most over rated institution on the planet.. The don't teach, they destroy minds

and I would never hire anyone from there

What happens when "You have a pole or you have a hole. One is male, the other is female" isn't true?

I personally know people who were born hermaphroditic - IE, when they came out, they had both. How does that fit into your simple dichotomy?

I still want you to address this.

If God is perfect, and God thinks it's critically important that everyone is born with a clear and immutable biological gender, how does he allow people to be born with mixed genitals?

Never heard of such a bizarre thing. National Enquirer might tell that story though

Dude.
There are and have been numerous instances of this fallen world phenomenon over the years.

The scientific or scholarly (if you prefer) word for this phenomenon is hermaphrodite.

Educate yourself before speaking so glibly, as that attitude and show of ignorance will greatly overshadow any good your words may have intentioned.

Like the same folks who scoff at the idea of climate change as a money grab or pure BS are ironically (?) the same ones conjuring up conspiracy theories concerning 1000s of cattle dying in Kansas as a result of said climate change.

It's almost comical, except it is decidedly not so.

Show me ONE instance where someone was born with a hole and a pole. That said, I won't rule out the possibility of radio active poisoning doing something weird.. but I have never seen such a thing in over 70 years

I do not believe you know any such person

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

Not hard research, dude...

I don't really appreciate you calling me a liar. I absolutely do know several people who were born with hermaphroditic/mixed genitals. Maybe you do too, but they won't tell you because you're far too closed-minded to accept such people... The person I knew best was a girl in high school who was a 45,X. Her parents decided to have her surgically corrected to phenotypically female shortly after birth and she was able to successfully become a mother. So that was nice; a lot of intersex persons are sterile.

Posted by Mwett on 7/13/2022 9:02:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by dahsdebater on 7/13/2022 7:35:00 PM If God is perfect, and God thinks it's critically important that everyone is born with a clear and immutable biological gender, how does he allow people to be born with mixed genitals?

I can attempt to answer this, but I also want to try to understand/be cautious of the intent of the question.

God is perfect, AND stuff happens. It's part of the age old question why do bad things happen to good people. Why are some born deformed and others aren't ? Why does lightning strike and kill a good person ? Why does a pastor's teenage daughter die in a car crash while scum of the earth such as myself and others continue to live, maybe even the drunk who caused the crash ?

The Christian viewpoint is God 'allows' bad often for the better good, and bad only started to happen when sin and rebellion by people entered the world in the garden. God could if he wanted not allow bad to happen, but then who would turn to Him in their own strength. If not for Columbine high school maybe I miss an opp to reflect and ask questions and find Him.

It's ok to ask questions without malicious intent or agenda if your mind isn't already made up another way and trying to trip up someone else. Just be open to and ready for an answer, specially if you ask it of Him. In a bet between God and the devil, Job of the Bible known at the time as one of the most God-honoring men lost a fortune and his family in a single day. He did question God about it, in a bit of an understandable hissy. God's reply ? Who are you to question the One who puts the sheep on a thousand hills, who tells the mighty ocean waves only to this point may you come ? In the end, Job did not reject God.

God IS perfect. AND stuff happens.

Now, are you asking an honest question, or trying to make a point that you want nothing to do with a God who let's stuff happen ? By the way, doesn't stuff still happen to others who believe in something else or even nothing at all ?

I am asking an honest question, but not to you. The part of the premise of people like LnF that I take issue with is not about God being perfect, it's the part where humans can somehow have perfect knowledge of Him on topics that aren't touched in the Bible. So, in my original wording, the bit about the clear and immutable biological gender.

My problem is not with Christianity. I consider myself a Christian. Before the pandemic I attended church every week. My dad is a pastor. What I take issue with is people using Christianity as an excuse to closed-mindedly attack others and belittle their personal experiences.

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/14/2022 12:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 7/14/2022 4:49:00 AM (view original):
We have people born with extra digits or none at all. The gene pool is mutating down, epigenetic influences aside.

Hermaphrodites have chromosomes too. ONLY two choices. XY or XX.

This also isn't true. There are at least 10s of thousands of people alive right now who are XXY, XXX, XXYY, XXXX, XXXY, or XXXXY.

I was gonna say the same thing. I didn't pay attention in biology and even I know this. I guess the 50's weren't good at educating basic science.

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/14/2022 2:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 7/13/2022 9:02:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by dahsdebater on 7/13/2022 7:35:00 PM If God is perfect, and God thinks it's critically important that everyone is born with a clear and immutable biological gender, how does he allow people to be born with mixed genitals?

I can attempt to answer this, but I also want to try to understand/be cautious of the intent of the question.

God is perfect, AND stuff happens. It's part of the age old question why do bad things happen to good people. Why are some born deformed and others aren't ? Why does lightning strike and kill a good person ? Why does a pastor's teenage daughter die in a car crash while scum of the earth such as myself and others continue to live, maybe even the drunk who caused the crash ?

The Christian viewpoint is God 'allows' bad often for the better good, and bad only started to happen when sin and rebellion by people entered the world in the garden. God could if he wanted not allow bad to happen, but then who would turn to Him in their own strength. If not for Columbine high school maybe I miss an opp to reflect and ask questions and find Him.

It's ok to ask questions without malicious intent or agenda if your mind isn't already made up another way and trying to trip up someone else. Just be open to and ready for an answer, specially if you ask it of Him. In a bet between God and the devil, Job of the Bible known at the time as one of the most God-honoring men lost a fortune and his family in a single day. He did question God about it, in a bit of an understandable hissy. God's reply ? Who are you to question the One who puts the sheep on a thousand hills, who tells the mighty ocean waves only to this point may you come ? In the end, Job did not reject God.

God IS perfect. AND stuff happens.

Now, are you asking an honest question, or trying to make a point that you want nothing to do with a God who let's stuff happen ? By the way, doesn't stuff still happen to others who believe in something else or even nothing at all ?

I am asking an honest question, but not to you. The part of the premise of people like LnF that I take issue with is not about God being perfect, it's the part where humans can somehow have perfect knowledge of Him on topics that aren't touched in the Bible. So, in my original wording, the bit about the clear and immutable biological gender.

My problem is not with Christianity. I consider myself a Christian. Before the pandemic I attended church every week. My dad is a pastor. What I take issue with is people using Christianity as an excuse to closed-mindedly attack others and belittle their personal experiences.

Ahhhhh. Rhetorical, gotcha. Sorry, I spose I hadn't read enough of your stuff yet. My defenses kicked in as that's the typical type of "let's-try-to-condradict-and-confuse-and-trip-them-up" question or comment employed by doubters and take liberties and leaps from well if this is garbage then that must be garbage so must too mean the entire Bible is garbage and while we're at it let's include this loser guy Jesus and his hahaha God-father as garbage and uhhmmm heaven and hell who knows or cares if they're real but probly garbage also.

My bad, carry on.

Enjoy life.
Consider eternity.

Posted by Mwett on 7/14/2022 4:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/14/2022 2:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 7/13/2022 9:02:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by dahsdebater on 7/13/2022 7:35:00 PM If God is perfect, and God thinks it's critically important that everyone is born with a clear and immutable biological gender, how does he allow people to be born with mixed genitals?

I can attempt to answer this, but I also want to try to understand/be cautious of the intent of the question.

God is perfect, AND stuff happens. It's part of the age old question why do bad things happen to good people. Why are some born deformed and others aren't ? Why does lightning strike and kill a good person ? Why does a pastor's teenage daughter die in a car crash while scum of the earth such as myself and others continue to live, maybe even the drunk who caused the crash ?

The Christian viewpoint is God 'allows' bad often for the better good, and bad only started to happen when sin and rebellion by people entered the world in the garden. God could if he wanted not allow bad to happen, but then who would turn to Him in their own strength. If not for Columbine high school maybe I miss an opp to reflect and ask questions and find Him.

It's ok to ask questions without malicious intent or agenda if your mind isn't already made up another way and trying to trip up someone else. Just be open to and ready for an answer, specially if you ask it of Him. In a bet between God and the devil, Job of the Bible known at the time as one of the most God-honoring men lost a fortune and his family in a single day. He did question God about it, in a bit of an understandable hissy. God's reply ? Who are you to question the One who puts the sheep on a thousand hills, who tells the mighty ocean waves only to this point may you come ? In the end, Job did not reject God.

God IS perfect. AND stuff happens.

Now, are you asking an honest question, or trying to make a point that you want nothing to do with a God who let's stuff happen ? By the way, doesn't stuff still happen to others who believe in something else or even nothing at all ?

I am asking an honest question, but not to you. The part of the premise of people like LnF that I take issue with is not about God being perfect, it's the part where humans can somehow have perfect knowledge of Him on topics that aren't touched in the Bible. So, in my original wording, the bit about the clear and immutable biological gender.

My problem is not with Christianity. I consider myself a Christian. Before the pandemic I attended church every week. My dad is a pastor. What I take issue with is people using Christianity as an excuse to closed-mindedly attack others and belittle their personal experiences.

Ahhhhh. Rhetorical, gotcha. Sorry, I spose I hadn't read enough of your stuff yet. My defenses kicked in as that's the typical type of "let's-try-to-condradict-and-confuse-and-trip-them-up" question or comment employed by doubters and take liberties and leaps from well if this is garbage then that must be garbage so must too mean the entire Bible is garbage and while we're at it let's include this loser guy Jesus and his hahaha God-father as garbage and uhhmmm heaven and hell who knows or cares if they're real but probly garbage also.

My bad, carry on.

Enjoy life.
Consider eternity.

i didn’t read any of the DDB posts just yours.
I guess you do not realize that he is the son of a minister yet I have never seen him impose his religious beliefs on anyone in these forums.
If you are considering eternity consider life first.

Gotta love snarky "Christians"..................

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/14/2022 4:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 7/14/2022 4:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 7/14/2022 2:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 7/13/2022 9:02:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by dahsdebater on 7/13/2022 7:35:00 PM If God is perfect, and God thinks it's critically important that everyone is born with a clear and immutable biological gender, how does he allow people to be born with mixed genitals?

I can attempt to answer this, but I also want to try to understand/be cautious of the intent of the question.

God is perfect, AND stuff happens. It's part of the age old question why do bad things happen to good people. Why are some born deformed and others aren't ? Why does lightning strike and kill a good person ? Why does a pastor's teenage daughter die in a car crash while scum of the earth such as myself and others continue to live, maybe even the drunk who caused the crash ?

The Christian viewpoint is God 'allows' bad often for the better good, and bad only started to happen when sin and rebellion by people entered the world in the garden. God could if he wanted not allow bad to happen, but then who would turn to Him in their own strength. If not for Columbine high school maybe I miss an opp to reflect and ask questions and find Him.

It's ok to ask questions without malicious intent or agenda if your mind isn't already made up another way and trying to trip up someone else. Just be open to and ready for an answer, specially if you ask it of Him. In a bet between God and the devil, Job of the Bible known at the time as one of the most God-honoring men lost a fortune and his family in a single day. He did question God about it, in a bit of an understandable hissy. God's reply ? Who are you to question the One who puts the sheep on a thousand hills, who tells the mighty ocean waves only to this point may you come ? In the end, Job did not reject God.

God IS perfect. AND stuff happens.

Now, are you asking an honest question, or trying to make a point that you want nothing to do with a God who let's stuff happen ? By the way, doesn't stuff still happen to others who believe in something else or even nothing at all ?

I am asking an honest question, but not to you. The part of the premise of people like LnF that I take issue with is not about God being perfect, it's the part where humans can somehow have perfect knowledge of Him on topics that aren't touched in the Bible. So, in my original wording, the bit about the clear and immutable biological gender.

My problem is not with Christianity. I consider myself a Christian. Before the pandemic I attended church every week. My dad is a pastor. What I take issue with is people using Christianity as an excuse to closed-mindedly attack others and belittle their personal experiences.

Ahhhhh. Rhetorical, gotcha. Sorry, I spose I hadn't read enough of your stuff yet. My defenses kicked in as that's the typical type of "let's-try-to-condradict-and-confuse-and-trip-them-up" question or comment employed by doubters and take liberties and leaps from well if this is garbage then that must be garbage so must too mean the entire Bible is garbage and while we're at it let's include this loser guy Jesus and his hahaha God-father as garbage and uhhmmm heaven and hell who knows or cares if they're real but probly garbage also.

My bad, carry on.

Enjoy life.
Consider eternity.

i didn’t read any of the DDB posts just yours.
I guess you do not realize that he is the son of a minister yet I have never seen him impose his religious beliefs on anyone in these forums.
If you are considering eternity consider life first.

Alright, I took the bait and peeked, not sprised you'd stop by in record time. I thought you'd lambaste me for Jesus talk outside of your religion thread, which is why I peeked with a ready response that I'll back burner for now.

Many Christians or at least many who call themselves as such don't speak up for Christ publicly for a variety of reasons. Maybe they're Sunday morning armchair Christians. Maybe they fear ridicule or rejection. Maybe they share elsewhere and/or by different means. Sure, there's a place and a time. Everyone at work knows of my conviction but I don't go on about it in the boardroom.

I've never initiated shoving my Jesus down anyone's throat. Only when someone starts in with their hatred do I step in, and will always do so.

Your response just now and earlier question on the proper or translated name of the thief on the cross which you've already been corrected was mismatched stories but no harm no foul in and of itself were tame enough, for you. Thank you and I look forward to its hopeful continuance.