Limbaugh: Secession is coming Topic

Maybe Eric Swalwell could wear an ankle monitor.
12/10/2020 6:40 PM
Isn’t the fat drug addict dead yet?
12/10/2020 8:13 PM
Posted by DougOut on 12/10/2020 6:40:00 PM (view original):
Maybe Eric Swalwell could wear an ankle monitor.
When FBI told Swalwell he was being targeted by an agent for China, he ceased contact and helped them investigate. When FBI told Trump that Russia made entreaties to his campaign and Flynn, he fired the FBI Director, obstructed the investigation and ultimately pardoned Flynn.

By all means though, keep mentioning this story. It’s just another point of reference for the rest of us.
12/10/2020 8:57 PM
Posted by Guitarguy567 on 12/10/2020 12:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 12/10/2020 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Guitarguy567 on 12/10/2020 9:04:00 AM (view original):
Question is, do you believe him? How would this look?

For me, a divided (balkanized) America is simply not a world power, certainly not one that can compete with China. It's a self-defeating idea, I think. But am I wrong?
Yes, you are wrong. Quite often. What do "your sources" say?
I am wrong? So you're saying that secession would make our country stronger? Respectfully, Wylie, I must say I disagree with your pro-secessionist stance. I think this country is stronger as one.
that's not what I am saying. I am saying you are wrong quite often.
12/10/2020 11:34 PM

Congressman Eric Swalwell


Do you think an ankle bracelet makes me look fat?
12/11/2020 4:55 AM


I want a bracelet too!
12/11/2020 4:57 AM
Posted by tangplay on 12/10/2020 9:27:00 AM (view original):
You really think that one half of America is just going to let another secede for no reason beyond, "we're butthurt?"
Yes. I do. I don't think the current generation of Americans have any taste for military action against one another.

There's virtually no chance at this moment of states actually trying to secede, but if they did, Washington would let them go. Do you really see Joe Biden sending the military into Alabama?

The potentially harsh response would be to not just let them back into the current status quo in 6 months when they start to miss the Federal funds. Levy some kind of punitive concessions to regain statehood.
12/11/2020 10:23 AM
Posted by Uofa2 on 12/10/2020 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Sure, let the states that depend on the welfare of California’s and New York’s taxes secede. Whatever.
Just when I think you can't post anything dumber than you already have, you prove me wrong. You think other States in this Country are surviving off of California taxes? California isn't even surviving of of California taxes. When are you going to start checking the validity of thinks you post beforehand, so you don't look totally stupid? Here's one of the numerous articles showing just how ridiculous your claim is.

https://www.city-journal.org/california-record-breaking-deficit (There's more than what was copied. I'd love you to read, but that would mean you actually have an interest in the truth, so I'm sure you won't.)

Every state and municipal budget in America will take a big hit because of the coronavirus lockdowns, but no public purse is in as much trouble as California’s. Its Department of Finance recently estimated that the Golden State could face a $54 billion shortfall in the fiscal year beginning July 1, which surely must be the largest deficit any state has ever accumulated, surpassing the $40 billion hole that nearly swallowed Sacramento in 2008. Still, though Governor Gavin Newsom said last weekend that the staggering deficit was “a direct result of Covid-19,” that’s clearly not true. Critics have long warned that the state’s tax base is volatile, being increasingly reliant on wealthy residents and vulnerable to sharp contraction in the next recession. Combine that with California’s spending spree—including expenditures to fix problems that the state’s own bad policies have worsened—and the swing from prosperity to penury isn’t hard to understand.

It’s no exaggeration to say that California—with its 13.3 percent personal income-tax rate, the highest of any state—is the model of progressive fiscal policy. The state also takes a big tax bite out of capital-gains income, another significant source of revenue. In 2017, Californians reported $142 billion in capital gains, by far the largest amount of any state. Two-thirds of that total came from people making more than $1 million. The top 1 percent of California earners now account for about 23 percent of the state’s adjusted gross income but pay 46 percent of the income tax—nearly $50 billion last year, all of which came from an estimated 15,000 households. Before the coronavirus recession hit, California projected that more than 70 percent of its general fund revenues—or $102 billion—would come from personal income taxes. That’s compared with just 25 percent in the 1960s, when the top rate was about half what it is today.

12/11/2020 12:10 PM
From my main man bags...

Most Federally Dependent States

Rank (1 = Most Dependent)

State

Total Score

‘State Residents’ Dependency’ Rank

‘State Government’s Dependency’ Rank

1 New Mexico 85.80 1 5
2 Kentucky 78.18 3 7
3 Mississippi 77.02 6 4
4 West Virginia 73.86 5 9
5 Montana 70.78 14 2
6 Alaska 68.61 7 8
7 South Carolina 67.58 4 16
8 Indiana 64.37 8 11
9 Arizona 62.71 13 6
10 Wyoming 62.26 24 1
11 Alabama 58.89 9 14
12 Louisiana 54.89 31 3
13 Maine 52.11 10 21
14 North Dakota 51.63 2 44
15 Tennessee 47.73 22 10
16 Pennsylvania 46.54 17 18
17 Missouri 44.29 26 12
18 Oklahoma 42.17 19 23
19 Maryland 41.82 15 31
20 South Dakota 40.39 23 17
21 Arkansas 39.46 41 13
22 Vermont 39.42 20 30
23 Georgia 35.18 35 20
24 New York 35.04 46 15
25 Oregon 34.89 27 27
26 Idaho 34.33 21 35
27 Michigan 34.06 29 25
28 North Carolina 33.89 32 24
29 Rhode Island 33.79 39 22
30 New Hampshire 32.42 34 26
31 Nevada 31.70 36 29
32 Ohio 31.32 45 19
33 Wisconsin 31.24 16 43
34 Texas 29.90 42 28
35 Florida 29.89 28 33
36 Connecticut 28.04 18 42
37 Colorado 27.64 40 32
38 Hawaii 25.49 11 50
39 Nebraska 25.32 43 34
40 Virginia 24.99 12 49
41 California 24.42 44 36
42 Washington 24.32 37 37
43 Minnesota 21.99 25 45
44 Massachusetts 19.16 47 38
45 Illinois 18.53 48 39
46 Utah 17.83 33 46
47 Iowa 16.53 30 47
48 Delaware 14.91 50 40
49 New Jersey 14.52 49 41
50 Kansas 12.73 38 48
12/11/2020 12:24 PM
Posted by all3 on 12/11/2020 12:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Uofa2 on 12/10/2020 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Sure, let the states that depend on the welfare of California’s and New York’s taxes secede. Whatever.
Just when I think you can't post anything dumber than you already have, you prove me wrong. You think other States in this Country are surviving off of California taxes? California isn't even surviving of of California taxes. When are you going to start checking the validity of thinks you post beforehand, so you don't look totally stupid? Here's one of the numerous articles showing just how ridiculous your claim is.

https://www.city-journal.org/california-record-breaking-deficit (There's more than what was copied. I'd love you to read, but that would mean you actually have an interest in the truth, so I'm sure you won't.)

Every state and municipal budget in America will take a big hit because of the coronavirus lockdowns, but no public purse is in as much trouble as California’s. Its Department of Finance recently estimated that the Golden State could face a $54 billion shortfall in the fiscal year beginning July 1, which surely must be the largest deficit any state has ever accumulated, surpassing the $40 billion hole that nearly swallowed Sacramento in 2008. Still, though Governor Gavin Newsom said last weekend that the staggering deficit was “a direct result of Covid-19,” that’s clearly not true. Critics have long warned that the state’s tax base is volatile, being increasingly reliant on wealthy residents and vulnerable to sharp contraction in the next recession. Combine that with California’s spending spree—including expenditures to fix problems that the state’s own bad policies have worsened—and the swing from prosperity to penury isn’t hard to understand.

It’s no exaggeration to say that California—with its 13.3 percent personal income-tax rate, the highest of any state—is the model of progressive fiscal policy. The state also takes a big tax bite out of capital-gains income, another significant source of revenue. In 2017, Californians reported $142 billion in capital gains, by far the largest amount of any state. Two-thirds of that total came from people making more than $1 million. The top 1 percent of California earners now account for about 23 percent of the state’s adjusted gross income but pay 46 percent of the income tax—nearly $50 billion last year, all of which came from an estimated 15,000 households. Before the coronavirus recession hit, California projected that more than 70 percent of its general fund revenues—or $102 billion—would come from personal income taxes. That’s compared with just 25 percent in the 1960s, when the top rate was about half what it is today.

I can't believe that you went to all this trouble without actually comprehending what uofa said. Clearly, he was saying that other states benefits from the FEDERAL TAX REVENUES from California and New York, not their state taxes.
12/11/2020 1:37 PM
Posted by tangplay on 12/11/2020 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 12/11/2020 12:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Uofa2 on 12/10/2020 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Sure, let the states that depend on the welfare of California’s and New York’s taxes secede. Whatever.
Just when I think you can't post anything dumber than you already have, you prove me wrong. You think other States in this Country are surviving off of California taxes? California isn't even surviving of of California taxes. When are you going to start checking the validity of thinks you post beforehand, so you don't look totally stupid? Here's one of the numerous articles showing just how ridiculous your claim is.

https://www.city-journal.org/california-record-breaking-deficit (There's more than what was copied. I'd love you to read, but that would mean you actually have an interest in the truth, so I'm sure you won't.)

Every state and municipal budget in America will take a big hit because of the coronavirus lockdowns, but no public purse is in as much trouble as California’s. Its Department of Finance recently estimated that the Golden State could face a $54 billion shortfall in the fiscal year beginning July 1, which surely must be the largest deficit any state has ever accumulated, surpassing the $40 billion hole that nearly swallowed Sacramento in 2008. Still, though Governor Gavin Newsom said last weekend that the staggering deficit was “a direct result of Covid-19,” that’s clearly not true. Critics have long warned that the state’s tax base is volatile, being increasingly reliant on wealthy residents and vulnerable to sharp contraction in the next recession. Combine that with California’s spending spree—including expenditures to fix problems that the state’s own bad policies have worsened—and the swing from prosperity to penury isn’t hard to understand.

It’s no exaggeration to say that California—with its 13.3 percent personal income-tax rate, the highest of any state—is the model of progressive fiscal policy. The state also takes a big tax bite out of capital-gains income, another significant source of revenue. In 2017, Californians reported $142 billion in capital gains, by far the largest amount of any state. Two-thirds of that total came from people making more than $1 million. The top 1 percent of California earners now account for about 23 percent of the state’s adjusted gross income but pay 46 percent of the income tax—nearly $50 billion last year, all of which came from an estimated 15,000 households. Before the coronavirus recession hit, California projected that more than 70 percent of its general fund revenues—or $102 billion—would come from personal income taxes. That’s compared with just 25 percent in the 1960s, when the top rate was about half what it is today.

I can't believe that you went to all this trouble without actually comprehending what uofa said. Clearly, he was saying that other states benefits from the FEDERAL TAX REVENUES from California and New York, not their state taxes.
Pat for the course.
12/11/2020 3:06 PM
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