If I have a player who is 80 or above, I will put him at 0. The only reason I would go +1, is if he was one of those rare birds that have a red 1 LP, and a 85 or above in PER. If he's more efficient at hitting 3's than he is at taking non-3 pointers, then put him at +1. So unless you are just trying to set a 3 point scoring record, and winning is more important than your stats, 0 is as high as you need to put your settings.

Posted by MikeT23 on 3/24/2017 4:08:00 PM (view original):
I had a D3 guy improve 33 pts to 80 over the course of last season. He hit 60 of 160(.375) last year at +1. He would be OK to go +2, right?

I would probably start him at (+1) but I also tend to be much more conservative. His IQ will be a year better and his BH is pretty solid for D3 and both of these will help. With his LP being in the 40's you may not get as many 3's out of him as you'd like at (+1) and in that case I'd bump him to (+2).

You also have a young team with a young backcourt around him which could affect his efficiency (ability to get open looks). Another reason I'd start at (+1).

Posted by skinndogg on 3/24/2017 4:50:00 PM (view original):

If I have a player who is 80 or above, I will put him at 0. The only reason I would go +1, is if he was one of those rare birds that have a red 1 LP, and a 85 or above in PER. If he's more efficient at hitting 3's than he is at taking non-3 pointers, then put him at +1. So unless you are just trying to set a 3 point scoring record, and winning is more important than your stats, 0 is as high as you need to put your settings.

Why would you go 0 are you not confident enough in your decisions to go +1 +2? I guess its just a different philosophy I am assuming..

Posted by skinndogg on 3/24/2017 4:50:00 PM (view original):

If I have a player who is 80 or above, I will put him at 0. The only reason I would go +1, is if he was one of those rare birds that have a red 1 LP, and a 85 or above in PER. If he's more efficient at hitting 3's than he is at taking non-3 pointers, then put him at +1. So unless you are just trying to set a 3 point scoring record, and winning is more important than your stats, 0 is as high as you need to put your settings.

I respectfully 100% disagree.

I do agree that not taking 3s will get you fouled more. And getting fouled is great for many reasons.

But having a dominate 3pt shooter is a huge weapon to have. Especially if that guy comes off the bench. I love having a guy come off the bench and go 6-12 from 3. You can get a lot of points really quickly.

And as for efficiency, you need to account for the fact a 3 is worth more than a 2. You gotta look at the effective FG%. If you could have an eFG% of 60% instead of 50%, why wouldn't you do that?

Posted by Benis on 3/24/2017 6:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by skinndogg on 3/24/2017 4:50:00 PM (view original):

If I have a player who is 80 or above, I will put him at 0. The only reason I would go +1, is if he was one of those rare birds that have a red 1 LP, and a 85 or above in PER. If he's more efficient at hitting 3's than he is at taking non-3 pointers, then put him at +1. So unless you are just trying to set a 3 point scoring record, and winning is more important than your stats, 0 is as high as you need to put your settings.

I respectfully 100% disagree.

I do agree that not taking 3s will get you fouled more. And getting fouled is great for many reasons.

But having a dominate 3pt shooter is a huge weapon to have. Especially if that guy comes off the bench. I love having a guy come off the bench and go 6-12 from 3. You can get a lot of points really quickly.

And as for efficiency, you need to account for the fact a 3 is worth more than a 2. You gotta look at the effective FG%. If you could have an eFG% of 60% instead of 50%, why wouldn't you do that?

I agree with Benis.

If I want guys to only shoot 3s then I would move him to a +1 or +2 but then lower his distribution down to below 10 ( my top 3 scorers are usually in the 15-20 range). But if I have his distribution way high then I'll lower his to 0 or even -1 because I know he'll still get his 5-10 3s a game if I have him set to 20 (meaning a very high % of team shots).

Posted by all2matt on 3/24/2017 7:32:00 PM (view original):
If I want guys to only shoot 3s then I would move him to a +1 or +2 but then lower his distribution down to below 10 ( my top 3 scorers are usually in the 15-20 range). But if I have his distribution way high then I'll lower his to 0 or even -1 because I know he'll still get his 5-10 3s a game if I have him set to 20 (meaning a very high % of team shots).

Why do you have distro to 15-20?

I've got a guy (D3) who is PER 88 and is set at +2. He's leading my team in FG attempts, all but 5 FGA have been from beyond the arc, and he's hitting 3's at a .464 clip through 14 games.

I'm failing to understand why anybody would think he should be at anything less that +2 with a high distribution.

Posted by tecwrg on 3/24/2017 7:50:00 PM (view original):
I've got a guy (D3) who is PER 88 and is set at +2. He's leading my team in FG attempts, all but 5 FGA have been from beyond the arc, and he's hitting 3's at a .464 clip through 14 games.

I'm failing to understand why anybody would think he should be at anything less that +2 with a high distribution.

You shouldn't be worried...

Posted by tecwrg on 3/24/2017 7:50:00 PM (view original):
I've got a guy (D3) who is PER 88 and is set at +2. He's leading my team in FG attempts, all but 5 FGA have been from beyond the arc, and he's hitting 3's at a .464 clip through 14 games.

I'm failing to understand why anybody would think he should be at anything less that +2 with a high distribution.

You're right to have Switzer at +2 imo. He can clearly handle it and he would be pretty bad at scoring inside or at drawing fouls. That's the type of player who should be chucking it from deep all game.

Similar to this guy last year on my D2 team:
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Stats.aspx?pid=3441315

Posted by mrslam34 on 3/24/2017 8:03:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 3/24/2017 7:50:00 PM (view original):
I've got a guy (D3) who is PER 88 and is set at +2. He's leading my team in FG attempts, all but 5 FGA have been from beyond the arc, and he's hitting 3's at a .464 clip through 14 games.

I'm failing to understand why anybody would think he should be at anything less that +2 with a high distribution.

You're right to have Switzer at +2 imo. He can clearly handle it and he would be pretty bad at scoring inside or at drawing fouls. That's the type of player who should be chucking it from deep all game.

Similar to this guy last year on my D2 team:
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Stats.aspx?pid=3441315

Wouldn't the higher Per have a better efficient rating at -2 if he is taking the same amount of shots?

Posted by tecwrg on 3/24/2017 7:50:00 PM (view original):
I've got a guy (D3) who is PER 88 and is set at +2. He's leading my team in FG attempts, all but 5 FGA have been from beyond the arc, and he's hitting 3's at a .464 clip through 14 games.

I'm failing to understand why anybody would think he should be at anything less that +2 with a high distribution.

Like I said before, 3 point shooters do NOT get fouled as much. If you are okay with that, go +2 all day.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/24/2017 7:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all2matt on 3/24/2017 7:32:00 PM (view original):
If I want guys to only shoot 3s then I would move him to a +1 or +2 but then lower his distribution down to below 10 ( my top 3 scorers are usually in the 15-20 range). But if I have his distribution way high then I'll lower his to 0 or even -1 because I know he'll still get his 5-10 3s a game if I have him set to 20 (meaning a very high % of team shots).

Why do you have distro to 15-20?

Basically I try to set up my distribution like I'm going to score in a game so it's easy to see what I expect out of my players. If I'm running a more of high scoring team I try to set up to equal 85ish, if I'm running normal then 75ish, and slowdown 65ish. I can compare back and forth from results to gameplan better.

Posted by all2matt on 3/24/2017 8:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/24/2017 7:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all2matt on 3/24/2017 7:32:00 PM (view original):
If I want guys to only shoot 3s then I would move him to a +1 or +2 but then lower his distribution down to below 10 ( my top 3 scorers are usually in the 15-20 range). But if I have his distribution way high then I'll lower his to 0 or even -1 because I know he'll still get his 5-10 3s a game if I have him set to 20 (meaning a very high % of team shots).

Why do you have distro to 15-20?

Basically I try to set up my distribution like I'm going to score in a game so it's easy to see what I expect out of my players. If I'm running a more of high scoring team I try to set up to equal 85ish, if I'm running normal then 75ish, and slowdown 65ish. I can compare back and forth from results to gameplan better.

Have some1 told you to do that as a strategy or have you read it online? I was thinking you did the to 100 strategy. Which your strategy I haven't heard off so far... Has it been successful?!?! Can you share some insight?

I like it because it's easy to remember and read thru. No one really suggested it to me it's just something I did in GD with the RBs and WRs. For me it's helped because I can look and see a SG is putting up 17/game but shooting 40% then compare him to a PF getting 12/game but see he is at 55%. So I then up the PF a couple of pts and lower the SG a couple and see how it plays out. I like 50% for my bigs and 45% from my guards depending on how many 3s they shoot. 40% is my goal for 3s and I'll move them up or down based on that.

i use solely rating for the 1st 10ish games and then after that adjust by results, all I can say is some players play better than their ratings and some don't. I don't always know why so I just ride the trends and hope it works out well. This Ole Miss has been solely run with that method in mind from day 1.