I currently coach Georgetown in Tark. I started playing this game about 3 years ago with the main goal of coaching my alma mater, Indiana University. The Indiana job first opened up last season, where I was beat out by a slightly more qualified coach. That coach left after one season and the job opened up again this past weekend. I applied, but got beat out again. Naturally I was bummed, but when I saw the coach that beat me out, I was pretty angry. Below are our resumes. I only included ten years of data because as far as I'm aware that's all that factors in the job logic. Am I correct in thinking I got screwed, or am I just being bitter? I had a better RPI (in a better conference) in 9 out of 10 seasons. I had 5 NT appearances, he had 2. I had 3 PT appearances and he had 6. Is there something I'm missing? I'm just baffled.

Robinsmd
Season 124
Georgetown
Div (I) - Big East
Overall Record: 21-9
Conference Record: 10-6
RPI: 17
Nat. Tourny
At-large Bid
Nat. Tourny
2nd Round

Season 123
Georgetown
Div (I) - Big East
Overall Record: 18-11
Conference Record: 7-9
RPI: 22
Nat. Tourny
At-large Bid
Nat. Tourny
1st Round

Season 122
Georgetown
Div (I) - Big East
Overall Record: 20-10
Conference Record: 8-8
RPI: 28
Nat. Tourny
At-large Bid
Nat. Tourny
1st Round

Season 121
Georgetown
Div (I) - Big East
Overall Record: 14-17
Conference Record: 6-10
RPI: 63
PI Tourny
3rd Round

Season 120
Georgetown
Div (I) - Big East
Overall Record: 11-16
Conference Record: 5-11
RPI: 113

Season 119
Georgetown
Div (I) - Big East
Overall Record: 14-14
Conference Record: 4-12
RPI: 96

Season 118
Mississippi State
Div (I) - SEC
Overall Record: 21-11
Conference Record: 10-6
RPI: 39
PI Tourny
Final Four

Season 117
Mississippi State
Div (I) - SEC
Overall Record: 18-13
Conference Record: 7-9
RPI: 53
PI Tourny
3rd Round

Season 116
Mississippi State
Div (I) - SEC
Overall Record: 16-13
Conference Record: 6-10
RPI: 34
Nat. Tourny
At-large Bid
Nat. Tourny
1st Round

Season 115
Mississippi State
Div (I) - SEC
Overall Record: 25-7
Conference Record: 10-6
RPI: 12
Conf. Tourny
Champions
Nat. Tourny
2nd Round


Budlit (landed the IU job)
Season 124
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 17-12
Conference Record: 11-5
RPI: 70
Nat. Tourny
At-large Bid
Nat. Tourny
1st Round

Season 123
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 20-10
Conference Record: 12-4
RPI: 40
Conference Reg.
Season Champs
Nat. Tourny
At-large Bid
Nat. Tourny
2nd Round

Season 122
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 18-14
Conference Record: 9-7
RPI: 42
PI Tourny
3rd Round

Season 121
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 18-11
Conference Record: 10-6
RPI: 88
PI Tourny
1st Round
Season 120
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 17-11
Conference Record: 7-9
RPI: 127

Season 119
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 24-7
Conference Record: 11-5
RPI: 77
PI Tourny
2nd Round

Season 118
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 19-11
Conference Record: 12-4
RPI: 52
PI Tourny
2nd Round

Season 117
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 16-13
Conference Record: 10-6
RPI: 85
PI Tourny
1st Round

Season 116
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 17-11
Conference Record: 10-6
RPI: 97
PI Tourny
1st Round

Season 115
Colorado State
Div (I) - MWC
Overall Record: 15-12
Conference Record: 10-6
RPI: 159

Short answer IMO is yes you got hosed. Not sure what put him over you

Pretty strange that he got the job, maybe it's your coach reputation, did you rescind many schollies, did you not respect your promises?

Posted by zorzii on 4/10/2017 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Pretty strange that he got the job, maybe it's your coach reputation, did you rescind many schollies, did you not respect your promises?

Nope A+ for both reputation and loyalty. I've never not fufilled a promise and haven't rescinded any schollies while at Gtown. I'm so annoyed.

Only thing I can see is your one losing season to his none. Neither of your resumes is fantastic, and are relatively equal over the last 10 years, but you've got a slight edge, I think. I don't think you can say it was a travesty, but I'd have given you 65-35 odds there.

Does he have a long-term edge (massively more total wins than you) that we can't see here? It's been a while, but I know at one point the biggest jobs had sort of unofficial minimum-wins totals needed to get them, barring major tourney success.

Send in a ticket and ask why.

Posted by wronoj on 4/10/2017 11:20:00 AM (view original):
Only thing I can see is your one losing season to his none. Neither of your resumes is fantastic, and are relatively equal over the last 10 years, but you've got a slight edge, I think. I don't think you can say it was a travesty, but I'd have given you 65-35 odds there.

Does he have a long-term edge (massively more total wins than you) that we can't see here? It's been a while, but I know at one point the biggest jobs had sort of unofficial minimum-wins totals needed to get them, barring major tourney success.

My Overall Records:
Overall: 498-271 (64.8%) Players Drafted: 1
Conference: 248-168 (59.6%) with 9 championships and 7 Conf Tourney Championships
National Tournament: 14 bids 9-14 record
PIT Invitiational: 4 bids 7 wins


His Overall Records:
Overall: 987-784 (55.7%) Players Drafted - 1
Conference: 568-424 (57.3%) with 7 championships and 2 Conf Tourney Championships
National Tournament: 8 bids 6-8 record
PIT Invitiational: 18 bids 8 wins



Aside from volume of wins... my percentages, conference performance, and NT performance is significantly better.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 4/10/2017 11:28:00 AM (view original):
Send in a ticket and ask why.

I did. Still waiting on a response. I'll be sure to relay the reasoning why.

Is it possible that WIS is using baseline prestige as some type of baseline for measuring coach performance?

A slightly better resume for a coach @ Duke versus one @ some low D+ I could maybe understand giving the nod to the D+ coach.

Georgetown = A minus baseline

vs.

Colorado St. = C baseline

Only the last 10 seasons count. And the last one counts more than the second, the second more than the third etc.

Posted by zorzii on 4/10/2017 2:59:00 PM (view original):
Only the last 10 seasons count. And the last one counts more than the second, the second more than the third etc.

Right -- which makes me think more and more I got totally screwed

The rest of us Big East coaches don't want you to leave, so we spread a vicious rumor around Indiana's campus that your favorite drink is a boilermaker and your favorite colors are black and old gold.

Posted by snafu4u on 4/10/2017 6:16:00 PM (view original):
The rest of us Big East coaches don't want you to leave, so we spread a vicious rumor around Indiana's campus that your favorite drink is a boilermaker and your favorite colors are black and old gold.

Okay, this made me snort out loud!

I can almost guarantee it was the losing seasons. I've changed jobs kind of frequently in Tark, and I look after every season, good or bad. judging by what I've qualified for each time, I can pretty much say that a losing season just crushes your standing for jobs. you had 2 in the last 5. that killed you.

I'd be ****** if I was stuck at Georgetown too.