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Posted by bad_luck on 10/4/2017 11:28:00 PM (view original):
A two run homer is never more valuable than a grand slam.
I love how whenever you're trying to make a point, you look at things in a vacuum and think that you're fooling people.
Is a grand slam worth more runs than a two run homer? Absolutely it is. And no one is arguing otherwise.
The question on the table was, which is more valuable: a 2-run homer when you're down 2-1, or a grand slam when you're up 10-0? Given that SPECIFIC CONTEXT, the 2-run homer is more valuable.
I know you'll try to deflect and say "a grand slam is more valuable - 4 runs is more than 2 runs. DUH!!!" But for once, consider context in your argument. You might not look as inept if you do.
If only the word value was not, by definition, free from context. Again, try checking a dictionary. You might not look as inept if you do.
You are wrong. Value is relative.
If we were talking about ethics or morals, you'd be correct. But we aren't.
We're talking about assets. And while the term "relative value" exists in econ, it doesn't mean what you think it means.
EDIT:
Here's what relative value means when referencing MLB players:
Player A produces 50 offensive runs. Is that valuable? I don't know. The absolute value of his production is 50 runs. To know if that is good or not, we need to know what everyone else produces. That gives us the relative value of 50 runs.
So, if other players produce 100 runs offensively, we know the relative value of 50 is low. If other players produce 10 runs offensively, the relative value of 50 runs is high.
"Value" is an agreed upon human construct. Animals too but I won't go down that route. If you are talking about the specific gravity of Uranium, then I suppose its absolute.
But when you are talking about 'value of money' or 'value of glasses of water' or 'value of players to their team', thats all abstract and its all relative to the person who is discussing it.
Is a run a run? Yes. And in the abstract, one run is the same as any other run. But when you are discussing 'MVP' its not in a vacuum. Its relative the other circumstances around it. And 'Most Valuable in League' or 'Best Player in League' is still something which has no absolute value. Can it be somewhat measured by your questionable uber stats? Perhaps. But again, those fancy stats are flawed, and they are still human constructs.
So yeah, value is relative.