Jack Morris and Alan Trammell... Topic

cccp1014
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I would respect BL's argument more if:
  • He didn't believe that "wins" were an irrelevant stat. As I said before some could be lucky but consistent winning is not luck.
  • He wasn't so obtuse as to dismiss other people's point of views even if they differ from his.
  • He wasn't a complete idiot.
Just my 2 cents.
12/22/2017 9:00 AM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 12/22/2017 8:57:00 AM (view original):
Oh hey look, they do make posters of mediocre pitchers.
12/22/2017 9:16 AM
cccp1014
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Wins is NOT an irrelevant stat. Bad luck for you.
12/22/2017 9:21 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2017 9:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 12/22/2017 8:57:00 AM (view original):
Oh hey look, they do make posters of mediocre pitchers.
Hall of Fame pitchers.
12/22/2017 9:28 AM
bad_luck
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2017 9:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2017 9:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 12/22/2017 8:57:00 AM (view original):
Oh hey look, they do make posters of mediocre pitchers.
Hall of Fame pitchers.
Kinda my point. They should not have let a mediocre pitcher in the Hall.
12/22/2017 9:30 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2017 8:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2017 7:13:00 AM (view original):
A device that calculates WAR after every AB and a new Edgar "taking a pitch" poster. The old one has "stains" on it.
Could not possibly be as worn out as tec’s productive outs poster.

Unfortunately for you, they don’t make a Catfish Hunter poster because mediocre pitchers don’t get posters.
Hmm. Somebody made this. It's not really a poster. What would you call this?

12/22/2017 9:41 AM
MikeT23
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Phhhtttt. Mentions wins twice. Don't they know they're not important?
12/22/2017 9:49 AM
cccp1014
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BL Logic:

Team wins are important but pitcher wins are irrelevant.

Makes your head spin
12/22/2017 9:55 AM
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Posted by tecwrg on 12/22/2017 9:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2017 8:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2017 7:13:00 AM (view original):
A device that calculates WAR after every AB and a new Edgar "taking a pitch" poster. The old one has "stains" on it.
Could not possibly be as worn out as tec’s productive outs poster.

Unfortunately for you, they don’t make a Catfish Hunter poster because mediocre pitchers don’t get posters.
Hmm. Somebody made this. It's not really a poster. What would you call this?

A plaque of a mediocre pitcher.
12/22/2017 10:13 AM
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BL's envious of Catfish. He's secretly hoping they accept his mediocre self into the Stat Geek Hall of Fame someday.
12/22/2017 10:22 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2017 10:13:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 12/22/2017 9:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2017 8:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2017 7:13:00 AM (view original):
A device that calculates WAR after every AB and a new Edgar "taking a pitch" poster. The old one has "stains" on it.
Could not possibly be as worn out as tec’s productive outs poster.

Unfortunately for you, they don’t make a Catfish Hunter poster because mediocre pitchers don’t get posters.
Hmm. Somebody made this. It's not really a poster. What would you call this?

A plaque of a mediocre pitcher.
Wonder where it's located.
12/22/2017 10:38 AM
Jtpsops
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The Hall of "These People Don't Know Anything About Baseball"
12/22/2017 11:21 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 12/22/2017 9:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 12/22/2017 8:57:00 AM (view original):
Oh hey look, they do make posters of mediocre pitchers.

So, which is it? Was Hunter a good pitcher, which you have stated, or a mediocre pitcher, which you have also stated. Mediocre and good do not mean the same thing. At least not to most people.

mediocre: adjective

1.
of only ordinary or moderate quality; neither good nor bad; barely adequate:
The car gets only mediocre mileage, but it's fun to drive.
2.
not satisfactory; poor; inferior:
Mediocre construction makes that building dangerous.
Antonyms: excellent, superior
Definition of good:adjective, better, best.
1.
morally excellent; virtuous; righteous; pious:
a good man.
2.
satisfactory in quality, quantity, or degree:
a good teacher; good health.
3.
of high quality; excellent.
12/22/2017 11:50 AM (edited)
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Posted by cccp1014 on 12/22/2017 9:00:00 AM (view original):
I would respect BL's argument more if:
  • He didn't believe that "wins" were an irrelevant stat. As I said before some could be lucky but consistent winning is not luck.
  • He wasn't so obtuse as to dismiss other people's point of views even if they differ from his.
  • He wasn't a complete idiot.
Just my 2 cents.
Kinda ironic to call someone a complete idiot while simultaneously indicating you don't know how to pluralize points of view. That's Junior High grammar.
12/22/2017 11:58 AM
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Ah, critiquing grammar - the sure sign of a lost argument.
12/22/2017 12:00 PM
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