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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Why was Russia shopping dirt on Clinton and why was Trump's campaign interested in getting said dirt if there was no benefit to it?

IDK - This is what bothers me. How does colluding help anything? What can Russia do to influence US votes?

The bigger issue is and I didn't even know about it, is that the DNC colluded vs. Sanders? Is that true?

To answer your second question, yes.

Does it bother you?

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Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 2:01:00 PM (view original):
Obviously a ton of people thought it was going to influence something.....people that do this **** for a living. Whatever the reason, it's against the law.

I get it. I am just curious as to how? I logically cannot see it. I must know more!!!

Obviously the targets would be swing states. Maybe someone can write a book about it sometime? Derschewitz (sp??) thinks that this is not impeachable. IDK.

I do know this. Whatever Mueller comes back with, 50% of the country will like and 50% will hate.

But you will respect Mueller's authority on this, no? I just want to make that clear so there are no backsies when he releases his report.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

They released private information that Trump used to slander the campaign. They helped a facebook and other places fake news campaign to slander Clinton and promote Trump. C'mon.

Show me specifically what Russia did? This is all generic hearsay. Come on.

All the stuff we learned about HRC everyone knew before Trump even ran.

Did you read about Cambridge Analytica? Did you go on Facebook at all during 2016? Come on.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Why was Russia shopping dirt on Clinton and why was Trump's campaign interested in getting said dirt if there was no benefit to it?

IDK - This is what bothers me. How does colluding help anything? What can Russia do to influence US votes?

The bigger issue is and I didn't even know about it, is that the DNC colluded vs. Sanders? Is that true?

To answer your second question, yes.

Does it bother you?

A little. If the process were actually neutral (and BL is right that it doesn't have to be) then HRC MIGHT not have won the primary. And I think Sanders beats Trump if he wins the primaries.

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Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 2:01:00 PM (view original):
Obviously a ton of people thought it was going to influence something.....people that do this **** for a living. Whatever the reason, it's against the law.

I get it. I am just curious as to how? I logically cannot see it. I must know more!!!

Obviously the targets would be swing states. Maybe someone can write a book about it sometime? Derschewitz (sp??) thinks that this is not impeachable. IDK.

I do know this. Whatever Mueller comes back with, 50% of the country will like and 50% will hate.

But you will respect Mueller's authority on this, no? I just want to make that clear so there are no backsies when he releases his report.

How can I respect something I have yet to read. After the Stztrok (sp?) testimony I honestly no longer trust Washington or the FBI. Do you buy that he was unbiased? Things are so heated now I don't think anyone is unbiased.

If Mueller finds nothing then I probably won't believe him. If he finds that Trump and Putin are lovers, I will. No one would make that up, LOL.

As a sidebar. I thought that report on deflating footballs and TB was total BS. So I am a skeptic. I actually think Trump has been tougher on Russia than Obama was. He killed 200+ mercenaries in Syria, he armed Ukraine, he imposed sanctions on Iran, he is pushing on China and N. Korea. Why would Russia want him over HRC? Maybe to divide the country? I don't get it.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

They released private information that Trump used to slander the campaign. They helped a facebook and other places fake news campaign to slander Clinton and promote Trump. C'mon.

Show me specifically what Russia did? This is all generic hearsay. Come on.

All the stuff we learned about HRC everyone knew before Trump even ran.

There was so much fake news **** made up, targeting Hillary. Remember Pizza Gate? Cmon dude. You are looking pretty naive here.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Why was Russia shopping dirt on Clinton and why was Trump's campaign interested in getting said dirt if there was no benefit to it?

IDK - This is what bothers me. How does colluding help anything? What can Russia do to influence US votes?

The bigger issue is and I didn't even know about it, is that the DNC colluded vs. Sanders? Is that true?

To answer your second question, yes.

Does it bother you?

A little. If the process were actually neutral (and BL is right that it doesn't have to be) then HRC MIGHT not have won the primary. And I think Sanders beats Trump if he wins the primaries.

You don't think the process should be neutral? Really? Why?

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

They released private information that Trump used to slander the campaign. They helped a facebook and other places fake news campaign to slander Clinton and promote Trump. C'mon.

Show me specifically what Russia did? This is all generic hearsay. Come on.

All the stuff we learned about HRC everyone knew before Trump even ran.

There was so much fake news **** made up, targeting Hillary. Remember Pizza Gate? Cmon dude. You are looking pretty naive here.

I don't. Honestly. I recall all the stuff about Trump mostly and I also knew my vote would not count so I didn't pay as much attention to it as I probably should have. I did watch the debates. I didn't like HRC's stance on Islam so I really focused on that more than anything. Rightly or wrongly.

Whatever Mueller comes back with was stuff that happened for YEARS under Obama.

Even things Manafort may have done.

Trump didn't set up a server in his bathroom or hire muslims to hack the DNC server or click on a phish.

He didn't sit on the tarmac with the AG or rig his party primary.

Mueller said he would clean this up before the mid-term election.

He needs to get busy.

Pizza Gate. Barely remember it and never bought into it.

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Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 2:01:00 PM (view original):
Obviously a ton of people thought it was going to influence something.....people that do this **** for a living. Whatever the reason, it's against the law.

I get it. I am just curious as to how? I logically cannot see it. I must know more!!!

Obviously the targets would be swing states. Maybe someone can write a book about it sometime? Derschewitz (sp??) thinks that this is not impeachable. IDK.

I do know this. Whatever Mueller comes back with, 50% of the country will like and 50% will hate.

But you will respect Mueller's authority on this, no? I just want to make that clear so there are no backsies when he releases his report.

How can I respect something I have yet to read. After the Stztrok (sp?) testimony I honestly no longer trust Washington or the FBI. Do you buy that he was unbiased? Things are so heated now I don't think anyone is unbiased.

If Mueller finds nothing then I probably won't believe him. If he finds that Trump and Putin are lovers, I will. No one would make that up, LOL.

As a sidebar. I thought that report on deflating footballs and TB was total BS. So I am a skeptic. I actually think Trump has been tougher on Russia than Obama was. He killed 200+ mercenaries in Syria, he armed Ukraine, he imposed sanctions on Iran, he is pushing on China and N. Korea. Why would Russia want him over HRC? Maybe to divide the country? I don't get it.

Mueller is biased. Everyone is. He also happens to be a conservative. And he is a good, honest man.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Why was Russia shopping dirt on Clinton and why was Trump's campaign interested in getting said dirt if there was no benefit to it?

IDK - This is what bothers me. How does colluding help anything? What can Russia do to influence US votes?

The bigger issue is and I didn't even know about it, is that the DNC colluded vs. Sanders? Is that true?

To answer your second question, yes.

Does it bother you?

A little. If the process were actually neutral (and BL is right that it doesn't have to be) then HRC MIGHT not have won the primary. And I think Sanders beats Trump if he wins the primaries.

You don't think the process should be neutral? Really? Why?

I think it should be. But in the current system it doesn't have to be.

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Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 2:01:00 PM (view original):
Obviously a ton of people thought it was going to influence something.....people that do this **** for a living. Whatever the reason, it's against the law.

I get it. I am just curious as to how? I logically cannot see it. I must know more!!!

Obviously the targets would be swing states. Maybe someone can write a book about it sometime? Derschewitz (sp??) thinks that this is not impeachable. IDK.

I do know this. Whatever Mueller comes back with, 50% of the country will like and 50% will hate.

But you will respect Mueller's authority on this, no? I just want to make that clear so there are no backsies when he releases his report.

How can I respect something I have yet to read. After the Stztrok (sp?) testimony I honestly no longer trust Washington or the FBI. Do you buy that he was unbiased? Things are so heated now I don't think anyone is unbiased.

If Mueller finds nothing then I probably won't believe him. If he finds that Trump and Putin are lovers, I will. No one would make that up, LOL.

As a sidebar. I thought that report on deflating footballs and TB was total BS. So I am a skeptic. I actually think Trump has been tougher on Russia than Obama was. He killed 200+ mercenaries in Syria, he armed Ukraine, he imposed sanctions on Iran, he is pushing on China and N. Korea. Why would Russia want him over HRC? Maybe to divide the country? I don't get it.

Mueller is biased. Everyone is. He also happens to be a conservative. And he is a good, honest man.

You don't know Mueller. You have no idea if he is good or honest. I am sure in 1985 they said the same thing about Bill Cosby. Conservatives are not Trump supporters necessarily. Not everyone is biased but most people are for sure. If that Stzork thing did not irritate you then you are not human.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Why was Russia shopping dirt on Clinton and why was Trump's campaign interested in getting said dirt if there was no benefit to it?

IDK - This is what bothers me. How does colluding help anything? What can Russia do to influence US votes?

The bigger issue is and I didn't even know about it, is that the DNC colluded vs. Sanders? Is that true?

To answer your second question, yes.

Does it bother you?

A little. If the process were actually neutral (and BL is right that it doesn't have to be) then HRC MIGHT not have won the primary. And I think Sanders beats Trump if he wins the primaries.

You don't think the process should be neutral? Really? Why?

I think it should be. But in the current system it doesn't have to be.

Well then the DNC should not complain when people don't vote. Right? LOL

Sally thinks her vote should count. DNC says they know better than Sally does how she should vote. Sally says I'll stay home thanks. GOP wins election.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):
Your daughter plays LAX? Maybe you don’t have to worry about her dating dudes.

LAX is not softball. Nice try though. I am sure she ll date as many dudes as your sons....

I have one of each. They can date whoever they want. Liberal. Conservative. Male. Female. I don’t care, as long as they treat each other well.

Better yet, why don't you get them to date the same bipolar person, who thinks he's a male one day and a female the next?