So, it depends on what "is" is. (said Dog Clinton)

NOW, Captain Jackass wants us to believe he meant "Wouldn't" not would............... LOL

I HEARD him, he clearly said "would" as in "...I don't know why it would be Russia" quite clearly.

But no, it all depends on what "would" is........... it's actually "wouldn't"...........
BELIEVE HIM!

LOL.
The president is an inveterate LIAR.
UNFIT for any leadership position.
Except as Boris's supervisor!

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/18/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):
Fine, general question to anyone that insists Strzok’s personal beliefs caused him to harm Trump, why didn’t Strzok harm Trump before the election?

I have Answered that question multiple times and cited a CNN contributor attorney as a source.

Because he was worried about being fired?

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Posted by DoctorKz on 7/17/2018 7:54:00 PM (view original):
Who knows what Trump and Putin's conversation was like. Putin, like Little Rocket Man, wants an audience, legitimacy, the means to make propaganda. So maybe Donald says I make nice for you in front of the cameras, in exchange for a toning down in Syria, or perhaps help on the world's stage to get NK to straighten up and fly right. The media will eat me alive, but they hate me anyway. I take the heat, so what? Perhaps better than escalating tensions between Washington and Moscow. Trump knows Putin is gonna work in the shadows, he's KGB. Why fan the flames? Perhaps Donald cut a better deal than we know...then again, perhaps he's a patsy...

LOL...you really think Donald could cut a killer deal and keep it quiet? Hell no.

Compared to the guy he replaced, yes...like I said, who knows? Surely he didn't go into that meeting to come out embarrassed. But go ahead, underestimate him. Again...

I deal with people I don’t necessarily like frequently as part of my job but in negotiations you sometimes have to eat it for the greater good.

I agree with Doc. No reason to anger Russia. We need all the allies we can get when dealing with Radical Islam.

REALLY REALLY STUPID statement.

Allies don't attack our electoral process, or try and attack our infrastructure, or play international power games in places like Syria.
Dummy.

Not as dumb as endorsing the concept of turning Israel free to start WWIII.
But I've learned NOT to underestimate your ignorance.
Obviously you are seduced by folks with a gift for conflating talking with wisdom, folks who can't even keep their mouth shut when appropriate. Folks who lie as often as they speak.
I pray for Ussen to provide you just a modicum of common sense.
You'll need it for sure when your daughters get a bit older and start to question their Dad's word.......... and his unfounded opinions on all things...........not to mention his overt racism!
GL with that Boris.

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Give me an example of my overt racism LOL.

France, UK et al are such great allies that they all denounced the US moving it’s embassy to Jerusalem....

REAL friends tell each other uncomfortable truth, without fear of recrimination. That's what REAL allies do. Not EVERYBODY thinks it was a smart move to move the embassy at this time. Not a big deal to me (personally) unless it starts a major conflict. Which doesn't seem likely to me.........but I can understand why some may have feared the timing of the move.

Your stated attitude toward your daughter's upcoming life choices says so Boris.
You won't be able to INSIST they marry a Jewish boy. They will marry whom they fall in love with.
Your desires on that issue just won't matter much.
You will have to lose (or modify) your racist viewpoint OR you will lose your daughter.
I KNOW this for a hard learned fact.
I lost one myself! Because of MY views and attitudes.
Don't be Me!

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Who knows what Trump and Putin's conversation was like. Putin, like Little Rocket Man, wants an audience, legitimacy, the means to make propaganda. So maybe Donald says I make nice for you in front of the cameras, in exchange for a toning down in Syria, or perhaps help on the world's stage to get NK to straighten up and fly right. The media will eat me alive, but they hate me anyway. I take the heat, so what? Perhaps better than escalating tensions between Washington and Moscow. Trump knows Putin is gonna work in the shadows, he's KGB. Why fan the flames? Perhaps Donald cut a better deal than we know...then again, perhaps he's a patsy...

LOL...you really think Donald could cut a killer deal and keep it quiet? Hell no.

Compared to the guy he replaced, yes...like I said, who knows? Surely he didn't go into that meeting to come out embarrassed. But go ahead, underestimate him. Again...

I deal with people I don’t necessarily like frequently as part of my job but in negotiations you sometimes have to eat it for the greater good.

I agree with Doc. No reason to anger Russia. We need all the allies we can get when dealing with Radical Islam.

REALLY REALLY STUPID statement.

Allies don't attack our electoral process, or try and attack our infrastructure, or play international power games in places like Syria.
Dummy.

Not as dumb as endorsing the concept of turning Israel free to start WWIII.
But I've learned NOT to underestimate your ignorance.
Obviously you are seduced by folks with a gift for conflating talking with wisdom, folks who can't even keep their mouth shut when appropriate. Folks who lie as often as they speak.
I pray for Ussen to provide you just a modicum of common sense.
You'll need it for sure when your daughters get a bit older and start to question their Dad's word.......... and his unfounded opinions on all things...........not to mention his overt racism!
GL with that Boris.

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Give me an example of my overt racism LOL.

France, UK et al are such great allies that they all denounced the US moving it’s embassy to Jerusalem....

REAL friends tell each other uncomfortable truth, without fear of recrimination. That's what REAL allies do. Not EVERYBODY thinks it was a smart move to move the embassy at this time. Not a big deal to me (personally) unless it starts a major conflict. Which doesn't seem likely to me.........but I can understand why some may have feared the timing of the move.

Your stated attitude toward your daughter's upcoming life choices says so Boris.
You won't be able to INSIST they marry a Jewish boy. They will marry whom they fall in love with.
Your desires on that issue just won't matter much.
You will have to lose (or modify) your racist viewpoint OR you will lose your daughter.
I KNOW this for a hard learned fact.
I lost one myself! Because of MY views and attitudes.
Don't be Me!

1. I never said they have to marry a Jewish boy.
2. What racist viewpoint?
3. Tell me more about what you lost. I am genuinely curious.

I just said they cannot marry a leftist or a Yankees fan :)

Nikki Haley asked the allies to please support the US decision with Jerusalem and they said "FU".

I agree that Russia is not an ally but I think the plan is to try and get them to be on the same page when it comes to Iran and Syria for one. I am personally concerned with a country like that developing nukes and nuking Israel. So my viewpoints are geared toward that. I will reiterate, I am super self righteous. I tell my kids that too btw, Bob. I also never censor my kids. They are 100% allowed to disagree on every topic but they need to logically explain why they disagree.

If we met face to face, I'd buy you a beer and shake your hand. Our view points are disparate but you're a good guy in my opinion and most of all you genuinely care. Which is great.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/18/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):
Fine, general question to anyone that insists Strzok’s personal beliefs caused him to harm Trump, why didn’t Strzok harm Trump before the election?

I have Answered that question multiple times and cited a CNN contributor attorney as a source.

Because he was worried about being fired?

Fired or going to jail and of course losing the lucrative pension. That is what the "experts" say. I honestly don't care that much about it. I think optically it looks bad but as I reiterated we all have biases. The fact that he denied he was biased annoyed me but this whole matter is a mole hill that has been blown up into a mountain.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/18/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):
Fine, general question to anyone that insists Strzok’s personal beliefs caused him to harm Trump, why didn’t Strzok harm Trump before the election?

I have Answered that question multiple times and cited a CNN contributor attorney as a source.

Because he was worried about being fired?

Fired or going to jail and of course losing the lucrative pension. That is what the "experts" say. I honestly don't care that much about it. I think optically it looks bad but as I reiterated we all have biases. The fact that he denied he was biased annoyed me but this whole matter is a mole hill that has been blown up into a mountain.

So did he stop being afraid of those things?

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/18/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):
Fine, general question to anyone that insists Strzok’s personal beliefs caused him to harm Trump, why didn’t Strzok harm Trump before the election?

I have Answered that question multiple times and cited a CNN contributor attorney as a source.

Because he was worried about being fired?

Fired or going to jail and of course losing the lucrative pension. That is what the "experts" say. I honestly don't care that much about it. I think optically it looks bad but as I reiterated we all have biases. The fact that he denied he was biased annoyed me but this whole matter is a mole hill that has been blown up into a mountain.

So did he stop being afraid of those things?

I think now that Mueller is in full investigation mode and the cat is out of the bag there is no reason to be "afraid". At the time Trump was not under investigation of collusion and now he is. So at the time if PS said hey we are considering investigating Trump for collusion and it was info that was classified then he would be in trouble. That is how I understand it.

Now, are you going to answer my question or not?

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/18/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):
Fine, general question to anyone that insists Strzok’s personal beliefs caused him to harm Trump, why didn’t Strzok harm Trump before the election?

I have Answered that question multiple times and cited a CNN contributor attorney as a source.

Because he was worried about being fired?

Fired or going to jail and of course losing the lucrative pension. That is what the "experts" say. I honestly don't care that much about it. I think optically it looks bad but as I reiterated we all have biases. The fact that he denied he was biased annoyed me but this whole matter is a mole hill that has been blown up into a mountain.

PS did NOT ever state he wasn't biased! He clearly stated (under oath) over and over and over that He DID have bias, but that his bias did NOT interfere with his professional judgment or actions. Now, you may take issue with THAT claim, if you wish. He (IMO) was clearly less than the professional ideal he claims to hold when he exhibited the poor judgment he DID when indulging in his "locker room" brag-talk with his girlfriend. BUT, to claim he denied bias is just exercising a Trump-like disregard for truth!

Boris, thanks for the nice words. I would NOT bother to exchange thoughts with you IF I didn't share the opinion that, at heart, you're just a scared Dad who is facing a scary world full of change and ideas that shake one's preconceptions. ALL us old Fathers have faced the same things.......... I think it's even scarier nowadays for us more modern Dads. My Great Grandpa had SOME things easier, and probably some other things more difficult------like physical survival.

He didn't face the complex world we have now, with misinformation as prominent as truth and a Country so far off track from it's VITAL core of Laws and principles. We (as a people) sold out to these 2 competing parties............. who have clearly ruined much in their 2 way battle to manipulate the people. THEY are the problem and anybody who blindly espouses either of the 2 party "views" and votes on the basis of Party IS a member of THEY---the problem. And I'm with Willie Nelson on "they" when he said "...IF I knew who They was I'd have shot and killed him long ago" (That may not be an EXACT quote--but it's close)

It is impossible to support Jackasses like Trump (or the Clinton's) and be part of any solution to our divided people.
Defending or apologizing for liars, losers, and jackasses lends one NO credibility.
You claim you let your daughters read your views on here.
What will you tell them when it is revealed that (indeed) Trump was a cheater, liar, and traitor to our Country???
Oops I did it again?
All us Fathers look foolish at some point to our children.
Just try and make yourself look the fool on littler issues...........like being a Red Sox fan------------- and NOT on major mistakes like loudly trumpeting apology and support for conmen who take control of Gov't power thru criminal activity.
IF you're going to be self righteous, YOU'VE got to be certain you're right.
I can assure you Boris, NO one is ever right on "moral" issues. Reality doesn't come at us in black and white---------it's eternal shades of grey.
The only real enemy we have is we, ourselves.
OUR failure as a people to accept truth and adapt to it is what will finish us.
Stay well..........love those girls like there isn't a tomorrow.
Someday there won't be.

I'm not sure I now how to do this but I'll try. This link will take you to a very good article on where we are in the Mueller investigation. It's from Wired magazine. I have no concept of any publisher bias, but the info speaks for itself. I doubt any of you apologists will like what you read and MOST of you won't have the attention span to read it, but I'm hoping some (like Boris who I KNOW has the attention span) will read it. The article lays out quite clearly what we know about where Mueller is headed. And what Rosenstein KNOWS as an explanation to WHY he (Rosenstein) just doesn't resign and clear the way for Trump to appoint a new guy. It's coming!! and sooner than you think!

https://www.wired.com/story/what-robert-mueller-knowsand-9-areas-hell-pursue-next/

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Posted by DoctorKz on 7/17/2018 7:54:00 PM (view original):
Who knows what Trump and Putin's conversation was like. Putin, like Little Rocket Man, wants an audience, legitimacy, the means to make propaganda. So maybe Donald says I make nice for you in front of the cameras, in exchange for a toning down in Syria, or perhaps help on the world's stage to get NK to straighten up and fly right. The media will eat me alive, but they hate me anyway. I take the heat, so what? Perhaps better than escalating tensions between Washington and Moscow. Trump knows Putin is gonna work in the shadows, he's KGB. Why fan the flames? Perhaps Donald cut a better deal than we know...then again, perhaps he's a patsy...

LOL...you really think Donald could cut a killer deal and keep it quiet? Hell no.

Compared to the guy he replaced, yes...like I said, who knows? Surely he didn't go into that meeting to come out embarrassed. But go ahead, underestimate him. Again...

I deal with people I don’t necessarily like frequently as part of my job but in negotiations you sometimes have to eat it for the greater good.

I agree with Doc. No reason to anger Russia. We need all the allies we can get when dealing with Radical Islam.

If you think Putin is less of a threat than radical Islam you are the biggest moron on this forum. This may have been the dumbest thing you have ever said on this thread and that's saying something.

I 100% think so. When has Putin attacked us? Radical Islam caused 9/11, deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. To me that is the biggest threat. And like bad luck you would never say that to my face, you are a coward. In terms of espionage and such, China is a bigger threat than Russia as well.

Thank you for making my point yet again that my 14 year old is smarter than you.

He meddled with our election?

Radical islam isn't equal to terrorism. Terrorists are one small branch on the radical islam tree. And those wars in Iraq and Afghanistan went real well didn't they? You cannot fight an idea.

Putin's Russia is directly at odds with American interests. He is trying to tear our country down. Additionally, he has a very corrupt government where rivals get killed.

How would you fight radical islam?

What was that virgin? Sorry, I missed that.

You are a coward, who is all for football players kneeling during the anthem and you argued that the US and the USSR were NOT allies in WWII. You are a moron. Radical Islam wants to wipe the US off the face of the Earth as do its people. You think Putin and the Russian people want to wipe the US off the face of the Earth? Dummy.

Radical Islam is 100x the bigger threat.

How would I fight it? I would firstly admit it exists. Something you refuse to do. You say small branch. If it is 1% and we know it is a lot more than that so it is 16 million terrorists. In the world right now there are about 16 million Jews in TOTAL.

More non-sequiturs. Radical Islam is not the bigger threat, lol.

You still think that terrorism and radical islam are the same thing. it isn't. More than 1% of Islamists are radical. But even Ben Shapiro says that less than 1% are terrorists.

But OK. Admit it exists. Radical Islam exists. You are the US president (shudder). What now.

No he doesn’t and if you re radical you re one step from killing and I d rather be proactive than reactive

Yes. He does. When you were proving your point about this in a very early discussion of ours you showed me a video where he said that very thing.

OK so your plan is to kill every single radical Islamist. Let's assume that you know exactly who is radical. So how do you achieve this? Do you go to war with every country that has a radical in it? How do we go about removing radical Islam.

Re watch the video. That is not what he says.

Give me a link back to the video in question.

From what I recall Shapiro is listing off the numbers of radicals in each country and then he says something along the lines of 'Now, radical islam is not the same thing as terrorism and if you argue otherwise you are either ignorant or uniformed.'

Just think logically about this. There are millions of radical Islamists. Let's say 16 million, like you said. 1% of 16 million is 160,000. Are there 160,000 terrorists in the world? Is there 160,000 terrorist acts every year? There were 1000 terrorist attacks last year. How does this logic make any sense?

Find it yourself. Geez.

You aren't going to respond to anything else? OK.

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Posted by laramiebob on 7/18/2018 9:47:00 AM (view original):
I've come to the complete opinion that debating Boris is a worthless exercise in futility. He doesn't debate, he name calls EVERY time someone directly disagrees with him. He never sees any issue from any view other than his own naive, blind angle. He's a verified defender of an undefensible traitor. He calls others virgins (as IF that is some big insult), morons, and worse and I've never seen him actually post a logically defendable opinion. He doesn't know basic world history, nor does he seem to even understand the importance of the Jewish history on this planet.

In simple terms, he's an uneducated fool following his pied piper of illusion. A con man and Putin's *****.
What a monumental fool!
Oh, and Boris, I'd say so to your face!

Nice!!!! Thanks for the kind words. :)

To be clear I dont name call first but I respond in kind. The rest of your diatribe is simply not accurate. With all due respect and you have seen me identify myself as self righteous on numerous occasions.

I am sorry you are so angry.

Hate to break it to you Boris but all of this is true. You do start name calling whenever someone disagrees. We have been pointing all of this out for a long time.

"It's coming!! and sooner than you think!"

Same thing we've been hearing for the last 18 months.

All the accusations, lies and BS, back-and-forth, do nobody, and certainly not this Country any good. Why can't everyone just let the system do it's job as best it can, and THEN react? I still go back to my original claim, made years and years ago, that this two-Party system will continue to separate and drag down this Country until it's people (us) get smart enough to support a 3rd Party.

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Who knows what Trump and Putin's conversation was like. Putin, like Little Rocket Man, wants an audience, legitimacy, the means to make propaganda. So maybe Donald says I make nice for you in front of the cameras, in exchange for a toning down in Syria, or perhaps help on the world's stage to get NK to straighten up and fly right. The media will eat me alive, but they hate me anyway. I take the heat, so what? Perhaps better than escalating tensions between Washington and Moscow. Trump knows Putin is gonna work in the shadows, he's KGB. Why fan the flames? Perhaps Donald cut a better deal than we know...then again, perhaps he's a patsy...

LOL...you really think Donald could cut a killer deal and keep it quiet? Hell no.

Compared to the guy he replaced, yes...like I said, who knows? Surely he didn't go into that meeting to come out embarrassed. But go ahead, underestimate him. Again...

I deal with people I don’t necessarily like frequently as part of my job but in negotiations you sometimes have to eat it for the greater good.

I agree with Doc. No reason to anger Russia. We need all the allies we can get when dealing with Radical Islam.

REALLY REALLY STUPID statement.

Allies don't attack our electoral process, or try and attack our infrastructure, or play international power games in places like Syria.
Dummy.

Not as dumb as endorsing the concept of turning Israel free to start WWIII.
But I've learned NOT to underestimate your ignorance.
Obviously you are seduced by folks with a gift for conflating talking with wisdom, folks who can't even keep their mouth shut when appropriate. Folks who lie as often as they speak.
I pray for Ussen to provide you just a modicum of common sense.
You'll need it for sure when your daughters get a bit older and start to question their Dad's word.......... and his unfounded opinions on all things...........not to mention his overt racism!
GL with that Boris.

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Give me an example of my overt racism LOL.

France, UK et al are such great allies that they all denounced the US moving it’s embassy to Jerusalem....

Right, because that was a bad thing to do... Allies don't have to agree with you on every single issue. Moving the embassy to Jerusalem was bad for those nations.

I believe Russia also was not happy about this?

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"It's coming!! and sooner than you think!"

Same thing we've been hearing for the last 18 months.

All the accusations, lies and BS, back-and-forth, do nobody, and certainly not this Country any good. Why can't everyone just let the system do it's job as best it can, and THEN react? I still go back to my original claim, made years and years ago, that this two-Party system will continue to separate and drag down this Country until it's people (us) get smart enough to support a 3rd Party.

I agree with you all3. Both sides are really not letting this play out. Some on the left is arguing that Trump should already be impeached and that Mueller is about to release his report, and the right says that Mueller has nothing (as if they know that) and that his investigation should be shut down.

What really worries me is that when Mueller releases his report, and if it looks bad for Trump, the right will already have worked up the narrative that Mueller's word means jack. What happens then? I can already see moy, CCCP, you, Doug, kz trying to deflect and backpedal...

In other news... Good stuff, Bob! I always love when you are active to keep all of us (including me) in line.