Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 1:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
I didn't say antisemitism wasn't an obstacle. Jews are not superior to black people.

So you only use stats when they benefit you and when they don't you don't want to use them? So you agree that stats can often be misleading.

I use stats and morals to come up with my beliefs.

Aka the naked eye test?

I use stats and look up opinions on both sides... multiple sides to every story.

Stats can be misleading. You agree. Correct?

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):
CCCP... This is ME asking and not BL. Please answer my question:

Does institutional antisemitism exist in America today?

In the words of the almighty CCCP, a simple yes/no will suffice.

Yes

Great. Please explain to me why institutional antisemitism exists and institutional racism does not.

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):
CCCP... This is ME asking and not BL. Please answer my question:

Does institutional antisemitism exist in America today?

In the words of the almighty CCCP, a simple yes/no will suffice.

Yes

Great. Please explain to me why institutional antisemitism exists and institutional racism does not.

Because on college campuses people blatantly are announcing anti Jew ideas. Making Jews feel uncomfortable enough not to attend those institutions. I don't see any outward anti black marches on universities or at workplaces.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):
CCCP... This is ME asking and not BL. Please answer my question:

Does institutional antisemitism exist in America today?

In the words of the almighty CCCP, a simple yes/no will suffice.

Yes

Great. Please explain to me why institutional antisemitism exists and institutional racism does not.

Because on college campuses people blatantly are announcing anti Jew ideas. Making Jews feel uncomfortable enough not to attend those institutions. I don't see any outward anti black marches on universities or at workplaces.

Yes. That is antisemitism. You are gonna need to source an argument about Jews being denied access to colleges because of their religion.

In that case, there is institutional islamophobia in the country as well.

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):
CCCP... This is ME asking and not BL. Please answer my question:

Does institutional antisemitism exist in America today?

In the words of the almighty CCCP, a simple yes/no will suffice.

Yes

Great. Please explain to me why institutional antisemitism exists and institutional racism does not.

Because on college campuses people blatantly are announcing anti Jew ideas. Making Jews feel uncomfortable enough not to attend those institutions. I don't see any outward anti black marches on universities or at workplaces.

Yes. That is antisemitism. You are gonna need to source an argument about Jews being denied access to colleges because of their religion.

I never said denied. I said making them feel uncomfortable to where they will not want to attend those schools.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-ivy-leagues-history-of-discriminating-against-jews-2014-12
https://thinkprogress.org/why-do-colleges-still-give-preference-to-kids-whose-parents-went-there-ef3abe20407b/
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/09/harvard-discrimination-jews-227842

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/29/opinion/the-bds-movement-and-anti-semitism-on-campus.html
http://www.insightintodiversity.com/bds-movement-causes-backlash-against-jewish-college-students-and-employees/

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:03:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 1:50:00 PM (view original):
https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584

You just changed your opinion twice in the same page. You just said that it doesn't exist.

Also I'm not sure you read the article but its argument is nonsense. It was a stupid one-liner. This guy was talking about Israelis. Saying that ?? US policy will lead to behaviors which leads to Muslim takeover which is Jewish extermination. ???

I am Jewish. I am applying to State U. If that State U has a BDS march and open anti Jewish sentitment, why would I attend that school? Use your "morals" argument.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:20:00 PM (view original):
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-ivy-leagues-history-of-discriminating-against-jews-2014-12
https://thinkprogress.org/why-do-colleges-still-give-preference-to-kids-whose-parents-went-there-ef3abe20407b/
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/09/harvard-discrimination-jews-227842

OK so these are pretty good examples. Institutional antisemitism, at least on colleges, existed in the 1920's. Great. Now, show how this example impacts Jews living in America today.

As I understand, Jews now have good college records, so the 2nd article should go in their favor.

http://www.insightintodiversity.com/bds-movement-causes-backlash-against-jewish-college-students-and-employees/

Are you saying because we overcome it that it doesn't exist? Please explain.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:24:00 PM (view original):
I am Jewish. I am applying to State U. If that State U has a BDS march and open anti Jewish sentitment, why would I attend that school? Use your "morals" argument.

Obviously I don't support anti Jew sentiments on colleges, like I don't support anti Muslim, Christian, or any other religion argument. That is a good argument, however the link between BDS and anti Jew sentiment is sketchy, and the inequality argument there is slim. Note how I didn't mention colleges in the institutional racism argument.

Like you can dislike Israel and not hate Jews.
You can dislike Iran and not hate muslims.

Posted by tangplay on 8/27/2018 3:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:24:00 PM (view original):
I am Jewish. I am applying to State U. If that State U has a BDS march and open anti Jewish sentitment, why would I attend that school? Use your "morals" argument.

Obviously I don't support anti Jew sentiments on colleges, like I don't support anti Muslim, Christian, or any other religion argument. That is a good argument, however the link between BDS and anti Jew sentiment is sketchy, and the inequality argument there is slim. Note how I didn't mention colleges in the institutional racism argument.

Like you can dislike Israel and not hate Jews.
You can dislike Iran and not hate muslims.

Agreed but Iran is one of 50+ Islamic states. There is one Jewish state.

“Schools that are promoting BDS or other kinds of anti-Zionist rhetoric … are three to eight times more likely to have incidents that target Jewish students for harm,” says Rossman-Benjamin. These have included assault, the suppression of speech, and destruction of property.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/27/2018 3:27:00 PM (view original):
http://www.insightintodiversity.com/bds-movement-causes-backlash-against-jewish-college-students-and-employees/

Are you saying because we overcome it that it doesn't exist? Please explain.

Yes, if institutional racism existed in the 1920's and Jews overcame it, it does not currently exist today.