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You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

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He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Well, if you lost job opportunities because of being Jewish, that sucks and should be rectified.

I was. I got a job at a place that didn’t care.

OK, well it still put you at a DISADVANTAGE to lose that job opportunity.

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Posted by bad_luck on 10/12/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

?

He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Well, if you lost job opportunities because of being Jewish, that sucks and should be rectified.

I was. I got a job at a place that didn’t care.

OK, well it still put you at a DISADVANTAGE to lose that job opportunity.

But that will always be the case with something. Some people like women over men. Others whites over blacks. Golfers over non golfers. You will never achieve "true equality" but you will achieve a marketplace with a significant amount of options if you buy into capitalism. You want communism, where everyone is equally miserable sans the elites.

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Posted by bad_luck on 10/12/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

?

He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Well, if you lost job opportunities because of being Jewish, that sucks and should be rectified.

I was. I got a job at a place that didn’t care.

OK, well it still put you at a DISADVANTAGE to lose that job opportunity.

But that will always be the case with something. Some people like women over men. Others whites over blacks. Golfers over non golfers. You will never achieve "true equality" but you will achieve a marketplace with a significant amount of options if you buy into capitalism. You want communism, where everyone is equally miserable sans the elites.

So now you are accusing me of being a communist?

Do you agree that working to equalize opportunity is a good thing.

We have equal opportunity IMO for the most part.

Yeah but we don't.

Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 10:59:00 AM (view original):
Yeah but we don't.

I think we do.

Really? So everyone has equal opportunity?

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Posted by bad_luck on 10/12/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

?

He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Correct, you don't follow.

I genuinely don't believe that you have missed out on jobs because of your religion, but regardless, you have pointed out several times that Jews, as a whole, are a successful group. High incomes, low crime rates, etc.

Clearly, Jews, as a whole, aren't being oppressed. They enjoy the same privilege that whites do.

Blacks, on the other hand, do not enjoy that privilege.

Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 1:00:00 PM (view original):
Really? So everyone has equal opportunity?

I think everyone has equal rights. In terms of opportunity do you think I have same opportunities as the son of Robert Kraft? No. But I have the same rights as he does. No one has truly "equal" opportunities but we all have equal rights.

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Posted by bad_luck on 10/12/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

?

He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Correct, you don't follow.

I genuinely don't believe that you have missed out on jobs because of your religion, but regardless, you have pointed out several times that Jews, as a whole, are a successful group. High incomes, low crime rates, etc.

Clearly, Jews, as a whole, aren't being oppressed. They enjoy the same privilege that whites do.

Blacks, on the other hand, do not enjoy that privilege.

Do Asians enjoy that privilege? Hindus?

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Posted by bad_luck on 10/12/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

?

He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Correct, you don't follow.

I genuinely don't believe that you have missed out on jobs because of your religion, but regardless, you have pointed out several times that Jews, as a whole, are a successful group. High incomes, low crime rates, etc.

Clearly, Jews, as a whole, aren't being oppressed. They enjoy the same privilege that whites do.

Blacks, on the other hand, do not enjoy that privilege.

Do Asians enjoy that privilege? Hindus?

Hindu is a religion. I could be Hindu for all you know.

I don't think that Asians, in general, really enjoy the same privilege that whites do. But I'm sure we could come up with situations where they do.

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Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 1:00:00 PM (view original):
Really? So everyone has equal opportunity?

I think everyone has equal rights. In terms of opportunity do you think I have same opportunities as the son of Robert Kraft? No. But I have the same rights as he does. No one has truly "equal" opportunities but we all have equal rights.

OK? I'm not talking about equal rights.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 1:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 1:00:00 PM (view original):
Really? So everyone has equal opportunity?

I think everyone has equal rights. In terms of opportunity do you think I have same opportunities as the son of Robert Kraft? No. But I have the same rights as he does. No one has truly "equal" opportunities but we all have equal rights.

OK? I'm not talking about equal rights.

NO ONE gets equal opportunities. I probably get better opportunities than you and my kids will over your kids. BUT we all have the same rights, meaning we can work hard and achieve whatever our hearts desire. Some just have a tougher climb than others.

My oldest applied to Philips Andover. She had the grades and the athletics but not the connections....sucks but she'll go to another school and be the best she can be. Equal opportunities do not exist. It is a myth.

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Posted by bad_luck on 10/12/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

?

He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Correct, you don't follow.

I genuinely don't believe that you have missed out on jobs because of your religion, but regardless, you have pointed out several times that Jews, as a whole, are a successful group. High incomes, low crime rates, etc.

Clearly, Jews, as a whole, aren't being oppressed. They enjoy the same privilege that whites do.

Blacks, on the other hand, do not enjoy that privilege.

Do Asians enjoy that privilege? Hindus?

Hindu is a religion. I could be Hindu for all you know.

I don't think that Asians, in general, really enjoy the same privilege that whites do. But I'm sure we could come up with situations where they do.

You're being a dink again because you know you're wrong. Workers from Asia (including India) earn more than whites. They don't get arrested any more frequently than whites. So what don't they enjoy? Do tell.

Your whole theory is flawed.

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Posted by bad_luck on 10/12/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
You wouldn’t consider Jared Kushner white?

?

He is a Jew. Are we discussing purely skin color or generic culture? His skin is white but he is a Jew. I guarantee you his Twitter feed has at least a few antisemitic posts.

Yeah, he’s Jewish but if we’re talking about people who may or may not be able to benefit from white privilege, Kushner seems like a good candidate for it.

If he came in to apply for a job, he’d be treated like a white person. If he walked into a high-end store, he be treated like a white person. If the cops pulled him over...you get the point.

You think Collin Powell’s son experiences racism? Kushner is famous and rich. Both Wiley and I have experiences antisemitism many times. Why don’t you understand that?

I'm using Kushner as an example. And I'm not saying that Jews don't face antisemitism. I'm saying that when it comes to things that really count---will you be able to get a job you interview for, will the cops shoot you if you aren't perfectly polite at a traffic stop, etc.---Jewish people aren't treated differently from other white people.

I don't follow. Other white people don't experience antisemitism. You said antisemitism exists.Then you say Jews aren't treated differently than other white people. I have lost job opportunities because of being a Jew, 100%. I have not been pulled over in a while. I am far from a victim. I am an individual. All people should be treated as individuals nor part of group think.

Correct, you don't follow.

I genuinely don't believe that you have missed out on jobs because of your religion, but regardless, you have pointed out several times that Jews, as a whole, are a successful group. High incomes, low crime rates, etc.

Clearly, Jews, as a whole, aren't being oppressed. They enjoy the same privilege that whites do.

Blacks, on the other hand, do not enjoy that privilege.

Do Asians enjoy that privilege? Hindus?

Hindu is a religion. I could be Hindu for all you know.

I don't think that Asians, in general, really enjoy the same privilege that whites do. But I'm sure we could come up with situations where they do.

You're being a dink again because you know you're wrong. Workers from Asia (including India) earn more than whites. They don't get arrested any more frequently than whites. So what don't they enjoy? Do tell.

Your whole theory is flawed.

From https://prosperitynow.org/blog/racial-wealth-snapshot-asian-americans

When family size and educational attainment are factored in, we see that Asian Americans, in general, do not have higher incomes than White Americans. Although Asian Americans generally earn more than most communities of color, they face shared challenges of economic inequality and insecurity.

White American men with a bachelor’s degree earn $72,599 on average, while Asian American men with the same degree make $56,921.

Asian Americans have higher median wealth than Blacks and Latinos with a 2013 median wealth of $91,440. But they have substantially less wealth than White Americans whose median wealth in 2013 was $134,008.