Playing Out of Position Topic

mudbone1969
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Thanks dude. He is a SS.
7/22/2009 10:19 PM
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So this question has been turning over in my head for a while, and I was hoping someone could answer it:

How does the sim determine if an OF is a center fielder or a corner outfielder? Is it according to baseball-reference's fielding stats, or does the sim simply assume that, say, a A/A+ outfielder is a center fielder?

I'm likely going to need to play an OOP player at SS in a progressive I am in and I have two excellent center fielders. It would seem to me that they would be the best players to insert at SS, but I need to make sure the sim will recognize them as center fielders and not corner outfielders or generic outfielders.
8/8/2009 3:18 PM
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...i think the CF penalty only applies when an unrated DH or 1Bman plays CF...but admin's been unclear about that in the past...so i think your OFers would get the standard OOP penalty plus hits for moving from the OF past 3B and 2B to SS...so 4 hits altogether...i do not think they would be recognized as a CFer moving past 2B to 3B which would be 3 hits...
8/8/2009 3:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By JohnGPF on 8/08/2009...i do not think...
8/8/2009 3:31 PM
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I guess I may as well be specific with what I plan to do and maybe you guys can tell me what is best course of action:

I can either put some combination of below avg AAA shortstops at shortstop, 1969 Bill Sudakis (C+/A- fielding 3B) or Tommy Agee (B+/A fielding CF).

OR I can move 1969 Mike Andrews (C+/A) to SS and Sudakis to 2B, though that would leave me with two mediocre middle infielders as opposed to one good fielder and one awful fielder, which I don't want to do.

It seems to me that Sudakis at SS would be the best choice, especially since I'm unlikely to get a below avg AAA SS with even decent hitting OR fielding (maybe one, but not the other).

Granted, I am going to try to draft at least one SS, which will likely be an average defender with an OPS+ of ~50-60. But will even need a backup for him.
8/8/2009 4:14 PM
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to keep it closer
12/2/2009 9:51 PM
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12/9/2009 6:59 PM
hagebono
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In a just completed league, I used 1B Mike Hargrove (unrated) in LF the entire season; Keith Hernandez occupied 1B.

Hargrove played 1342 innings and committed 8 errors for a .973 FLD%. Of course, his range was only 1.91.

The interesting thing is that for about the first 50 games or so he had 0 errors. Not sure exactly when the update kicked in, but I'm thinking his 8 errors actually covered the games after the update.
12/9/2009 9:19 PM
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Here's another OOP puzzle, also from a progressive. I have three players competing for two positions:

3B with a D+/A-
OF with a B/A-
OF with a B/A+

Would it be worth it to shift one of the outfielders over to the hot corner? The fielding would be about the same or better, but the range takes a hit.

Needing to be factored in, the third baseman is the weakest batter. He hits about 50 OPS# worse than either outfielder.

If you do go with the two outfielders, who stays in CF and who goes to 3B?
12/10/2009 11:04 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by teal_leo on 12/11/2009Here's another OOP puzzle, also from a progressive. I have three players competing for two positions:

3B with a D+/A-
OF with a B/A-
OF with a B/A+

Would it be worth it to shift one of the outfielders over to the hot corner? The fielding would be about the same or better, but the range takes a hit.

Needing to be factored in, the third baseman is the weakest batter. He hits about 50 OPS# worse than either outfielder.

If you do go with the two outfielders, who stays in CF and who goes to 3B?

If you're only going to play 2 of them anyway, I'd give the B/A- guy a shot at 3B and play the B/A+ guy in CF. Range isn't quite as important at 3B, and you're not getting good range anyway.
12/11/2009 6:14 AM
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4/12/2010 5:44 PM
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I've never really played a guy out of position as catcher so far.

Just looking at this thread, since C is treated differently, does it just mean there's a more extreme penalty or does every non-catcher perform poorly there?

And if ratings at other positions matter, would an A/A first baseman be a worse catcher than an A/A SS?
5/12/2010 8:44 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by Jtpsops on 5/12/2010I've never really played a guy out of position as catcher so far.

Just looking at this thread, since C is treated differently, does it just mean there's a more extreme penalty or does every non-catcher perform poorly there?

And if ratings at other positions matter, would an A/A first baseman be a worse catcher than an A/A SS?

Recently I played 2004 Scott Rolen (3B A/A+) at C for 167.3 Innings with 45 passed balls, 0 of 8 caught stealing, 1.000 FPCT.
5/12/2010 9:14 PM
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