Posted by tlowster on 2/7/2018 6:37:00 PM (view original):
Fernando Colon will probably be a fireman of the year candidate for many years to come. Nice. Did you have him on your team due to luck, or did you trade for him knowing that he was a good DITR candidate? Also, did you trade for him before or after he got the DITR?
I traded for him prior to his DITR, at the beginning of the season he received it. I had a 1-for-1 deal for major league players where I threw in a AAAA prospect for 2 DITR candidates. Here were his attributes at the beginning of that season:
Spring Training |
S23 |
48 OVR |
45 |
25 |
41 |
19 |
11 |
49 |
99 |
27 |
83 |
37 |
98 |
Spring Training |
S23 |
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11 |
56 |
60 |
50 |
31 |
93 |
85 |
69 |
40 |
0 |
0 |
So basically the way it works is that makeup basically controls the size of the initial boost, and certain attributes are fixed while others are different degrees of variable
Fixed (for pitchers): range, glove, arm strength, arm acc (sometimes?), pitch calling; all 6 yellows; Vel and gb/fb
variable (for pitchers): stam (drastically so, the best increase), control (up to 30 after the initial boost), splits (up to 25 after the initial boost), P1-P5 (depends, usually P1 is the smallest- around 15ish, P2-P4 can be a little more depending on the player)
So basically Colon had the perfect profile, with had as much raw talent as possible packed into 48 OVR. Very low starting stamina took a huge initial leap, control and splits were already huge, P1 and P2 were already very good. So here is how he looked after rollover:
Spring Training |
S24 |
73 OVR |
46 |
26 |
42 |
20 |
11 |
50 |
100 |
27 |
85 |
37 |
99 |
Spring Training |
S24 |
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39 |
73 |
74 |
67 |
32 |
94 |
90 |
79 |
57 |
0 |
0 |
+25 OVR year-over-year is by far the best I've ever had. When they say "makeup helps development" they're not kidding. The initial stam boost went from 11 to something like 30, and rollover from 30 to 39. Control/splits went from 56-60-50 to something like 65-68-60, P1 only jumped a tiny bit but P2 jumped about 7 and P3 jumped about 12, and then he got good coaching for the remainder of the season + playoffs and then I promoted at the end to get the big end of season boost, and then I played him in 12-14 games as SuA in spring training the next season to get him +3s and +4s in coached attributes. Huge instant gains
So yeah, there are many layers that go into it. It's impossible to know the future of who gets tagged and who doesn't, so all you can do is identify the best candidates, roster them, deactivate any trash the night after the all star game, and hope for the best. Every once in a blue moon your very best #1 candidate gets smashed on the head and the result is that you get a guy that would cost $25-30M in IFA. I've had plenty of success with DITR, guys like
Stephen Anderson and
Matthew Dubler could also get to 80 OVR, so it comes down to sometimes you need to make your own luck
2/7/2018 8:14 PM (edited)