Posted by ebel331 on 8/11/2010 8:29:00 PM (view original):
Wow you outscored Tulsa by more than me, way to pick one tiny fraction of the equation out. How bout... I beat Nebraska who in turn beat Michigan and LSU who both beat you.
We already went over this when I just got the USC job in Stagg from Army. People complained I had it easy cause my mid-major conference had too many simai, and now my UCF team has it easy cause conference doesn't have any simai?! Who knew that non-BCS schools had such an advantage in this game! Where's all those 20 page threads where everyone told me I was crazy when I told them that Elite advantage was hugely overblown. Now it's unfair mid-major advantage???
The WIS rank has flaws but lets not turn that into UCF not deserving to be in these title games. Think I'm 10-3 (maybe 11-3?) vs Elites since I've been there.
I did not say you did not deserve to be in the championship game. I am strictly talking about the SOS flaw in GD.
Let me make this simple and someone step up and tell me that I am wrong and how I am wrong..... UCF with everything else being equal, that is they keep their same recruiting location, and same non elite recruiting prestige but they play in the Big Ten instead of their current Mid Major conference. Which situation do they have for a better path to the NC? Not only is the competition greater in the Big Ten, and the elites will tend to fair better, but in the Big Ten you are forced to play Elites and Big ten non elite teams every season, plus these teams will tend to fair better in the rankings....I don't think anyone can argue that if you(a championship quality team) played a 12 game schedule, that you are better off playing twelve 6-6 teams ranked in the mid 40's, compared to a 12 game schedule against six 11-1 ranked teams in the top 10, and six 1-11 ranked teams in the 100's. You know in the first situation you will be 12-0, odds are in the second situation you will not be 12-0, and in both situations you have the same SOS......
You played well in both seasons against every elite you played against and I do not deny that, even in the games you lost they were competitive, but that does not dismiss that your competition, or your conference competition is not on par with BCS conferences. Outside of your team your conference was 1-11 against top 20 teams, Tulane beating BYU was the only victory against a top 20 ranked team. This is not just your team, its any Non BCS team in any world. Any BCS team can control who they play in Non Con, but they can't avoid the competition in their own conference, that is the advantage in a good Non BCS team in that generally a good NON BCS team can control who they play in OOC and then win out alot easier in conference compared to a BCS team. Most of the Non BCS teams that accomplish this feat get blown out in the NC game because their ranking was far greater than their teams ability, something that never happens in a BCS conference, when is the last time in a BCS confrence have you seen a team as poor as some of the NON BCS teams that are ranked top 5ish finish top 7 overall, When you make a level 5 bowl and you see your opponent is a Non BCS team do you feel a lot more comfortable in winning compared to a BCS or Elite team? I know your team is a lot more competitive, and won many of the games against the top competition that you played, but that is generally the exception and not the rule..... It's not personal, lot of people just feel the ranking system is flawed, and that Non BCS teams are generally ranked higher than they are deserved in comparison to the competition they play, and the BCS competition and who they play.
8/12/2010 8:18 AM (edited)