I say we end up with the 2nd highest overall rating in NAC by the time CT starts. 

And kujay, why don't you do these analysis for every team in the NAC. That would certainly make this thread more interesting. 
8/19/2011 12:03 PM (edited)
Posted by tianyi7886 on 8/19/2011 12:03:00 PM (view original):
I say we end up with the 2nd highest overall rating in NAC by the time CT starts. 

And kujay, why don't you do these analysis for every team in the NAC. That would certainly make this thread more interesting. 
Not happening. ;)  Of course, a good part of why I do it for Thomas is just so that I can go back year by year and see how my thoughts change on certain players and also can remind myself of players that didn't work out so hopefully I don't make a mistake in a future season because I had forgotten the lesson.  A large part of that is giving season-by-season progress of my players potentials and obviously I couldn't do that for others if I wanted.

If I wasn't attending a conference last week, I would have done a mini-preview of season 51.  I'm looking pretty forward to this season.  I really can't remember the last time the NAC was this competitive.  Even when the conference has been #1, it is rare that any team can beat any other team on any given night.  I think we have that this season.
8/19/2011 4:03 PM
In season 22, I was recruited to the NAC by a man with a vision.  He had a dream of creating one of the top DIII conference in Allen.  While I strayed away and tested bigger waters, I have sinced returned to where it all began.  Mizzou77, your dream has been realized.
8/20/2011 4:59 PM
End of Non-Con
  School Coach Conf.
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Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
  #5 Johnson St. bieberfever 0-0 10-0 0-0 10-0 0-0 10-0 W10 5 19
  #3 Castleton St. rdb03161987 0-0 9-1 0-0 9-1 2-1 9-1 W6 8 38
  #20 Husson tianyi7886 0-0 9-1 0-0 9-1 0-0 9-1 W2 6 26
  #13 Lasell carlbuzz 0-0 8-2 1-1 7-1 0-2 8-2 W5 16 27
  Becker nz00 0-0 7-3 0-3 7-0 0-0 7-3 L1 52 67
  Elms tyber90 0-0 6-4 0-1 6-3 0-0 6-4 W2 155 287
 
 
 
 
 
South Standings
 
  School Coach Conf.
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Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
  Maine Maritime Academy jazzcog 0-0 10-0 1-0 9-0 0-0 10-0 W10 117 373
  #17 Salem St. luckystar 0-0 10-0 3-0 7-0 0-0 10-0 W10 12 79
  #7 Thomas kujayhawk 0-0 9-1 1-0 8-1 1-0 9-1 W8 1 1
  Maine, Farmington teamkf 0-0 9-1 4-1 5-0 0-0 9-1 L1 142 360
  #16 Maine, Presque Isle matt58vt 0-0 8-2 1-0 7-2 1-0 8-2 W1 4 3
 
Mount Ida mizzou77 0-0 6-4 0-1 6-3 0-3 6-4 L4 24 20
Extremely good beginning this season for everyone. Not a good time for the Mustangs to have 8 underclassmen trying to run a press... oh well, someone's gotta be last
8/30/2011 11:36 AM
Oops.  Forgot to do this at the beginning of the season.  And not that anybody cares but ....

Pre-Conference All North Atlantic Conference Teams (Season 51)

First Team
Pos.  School Name  Yr.  Pos.  A  SPD  REB  DE  BLK  LP  PE  BH  P  WE  ST  DU  FT  TOT
PG Thomas Keith Edgar Sr. PG 53 89 1 58 5 18 89 92 88 52 83 42 B- 670
SG UMPI Julian Brown Sr. SG 61 66 5 63 4 33 93 62 79 79 70 52 B 667
SF Thomas Edward Hager Sr. SF 83 38 35 92 25 64 51 48 68 48 79 50 C 681
PF Becker Joseph Richards Sr. C 59 17 92 59 76 85 2 2 1 63 72 64 C 592
C Becker Robert Campbell Sr. C 38 16 100 45 99 97 2 17 25 76 73 45 B- 633


Second Team
Pos.  School Name  Yr.  Pos.  A  SPD  REB  DE  BLK  LP  PE  BH  P  WE  ST  DU  FT  TOT
PG Johnson State Patrick Duke Jr. PG 56 85 1 60 5 1 57 87 82 73 85 34 C+ 626
SG Becker William Lundgren Sr. SG 45 73 11 36 17 34 88 76 55 59 75 29 B 598
SF Castleton State Jeffery Goins Sr. SF 62 51 76 69 43 39 48 42 45 69 79 58 B+ 681
PF Lasell Pat Phillips Jr. C 63 37 85 46 50 82 9 24 33 55 80 60 C 624
C Lasell Bill Theis Jr. C 61 18 85 49 77 77 1 14 10 29 63 80 D+ 564

Third Team
Pos.  School Name  Yr.  Pos.  A  SPD  REB  DE  BLK  LP  PE  BH  P  WE  ST  DU  FT  TOT
PG Castleton State Edward Zaltz Jr. SG 63 76 11 69 21 1 43 71 68 43 77 85 B+ 628
SG Castleton State Eric Levan Sr. SG 43 84 35 45 15 1 90 76 60 65 62 77 B- 653
SF Johnson State Fletcher McCrosky Jr. SG 82 42 33 82 2 49 54 32 43 59 75 52 B- 605
PF Castleton State Robert Galloway Jr. PF 50 33 72 60 63 87 20 49 12 63 77 99 C 685
C Castleton State Edward Craven Sr. C 57 41 97 51 67 52 1 22 34 65 76 59 C- 622

8/31/2011 4:49 PM
only 1 from UMPI? Scandal.
8/31/2011 4:55 PM
some quick predictions before we get too far into the Conf. schedule.

North Division

Castleton St.   13 -3  Best team in an awesome conference... so 3 losses just because. Final-4 team 4-Sho.
Lasell               11 -5  5 losses, but probably the second best team in the Conference. Nicely done Carl... Final-4 potential.
Becker              10 -6  3rd simply because they have 5 Sr's. No real superstars, but just very solid. S-16 type team.
Johnson St.       9 -7  4th just because their players are Jr's and not Sr's. Very good team, younger than Becker.  S-16 at least.
Husson              7- 9  Still a season away. Very talented. They just have 8 games with those guys above them. NT team as well.
Elms                   3- 11 Its going to be a long season for Elms. They'd win alot any place else... not here.

South Division

Thomas           11 -5 The North is VERY good. Thomas is the best, but the North is better.  E-8 is possible.
UMPI                   9 -7  Dac left just in time. This team has a couple VERY good players. 6-upperclassmen.  S-16 or better.
MMA                    7 - 9  Lots of upperclassmen, lots of talent... just lots of games against really good teams. NT team.
Salem St.           6- 10 Salem State rated above Mt Ida...OW,  They have 5 SR's and r just pretty darn good.  NT talent level.
Mt Ida                  6- 10 Young + FCP = losses, I believe we find a way to squeek into the NT... It'll just have to happen.
Farmington        4- 12 Floyd's guys are getting better... just not sure where the wins will come from tho.
9/1/2011 5:00 PM (edited)
I still think I left a year too early
9/1/2011 5:22 PM
Almost took out Salem State, so maybe there's hope for us yet.  I don't see a lot of wins either.
9/1/2011 6:29 PM
you certainly did a great job with this team dac.
9/2/2011 6:30 PM

 6 games into Con.  16 total.

1. North Atlantic Conference B 135-53 .6266 .6600
2. New England Small College Athletic Conference B- 99-89 .5644 .5560
3. Upstate Collegiate Athletic Conference C+ 109-79 .5383 .5490
4. St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference C+ 107-81 .5417 .5486
5. Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference C+ 119-69 .5219 .5462
6. Capital Athletic Conference B- 101-87 .5318 .5374
7. Midwest Conference C 100-88 .5218 .5205
8. Ohio Athletic Conference C+ 95-93 .5214 .5167
9. Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference C 97-91 .5165 .5159
10. USA South Athletic Conference C 92-96 .5258 .5138

I don't follow this very closely... but at the current RPI level this would be one of the best seasons for DIII ever.
I thought I would post it to see what the .500 of playing each other the remaining 10 games (+ CT of course), does to conf. RPI.
We are the #1 Conf. SOS by a large margin... so our out of Conf. opp. "should" help hold our RPI up?  I guess we'll C.

9/6/2011 12:48 PM (edited)
Ida got win #14 last night. Qualified for the NT and with an RPI around 15 and 3 games left against RPI #1, #5 and #7 we "should" finish around #15 or better I hope. I actually "expect" to knock off one of those 3, KuJ on the road to end the season would be fitting, since we always find a way to upset him each year.
Top 15 RPI, second in the South and hopefully win our first round game in the NT (as we should be favored), and we should hold onto the "A" prestige.
If this all comes to pass I would have to rate this season a huge success for the Mustangs of Mt Ida.
The over-all conference is the best it has ever been. We have the youngest roster we can have, (8 underclassmen), and we have survived it appears.
The next two seasons Mt Ida "should".... and I mean on paper "should" be in the top-3 again with RDB and KuJ.
That was my goal when I returned, and I believe we have the talent in place to rumble with the big-boyz from here on.

We'll C
9/15/2011 10:28 AM
Well done, Bob.  I don't know if I ever posted this, but I just didn't see the road to 14 for Mount Ida after you "only" went 6-4 in non-conference.  I thought you might set some record for lowest RPI in the PIT.

Conference play has mostly been a pleasant surprise.  The North has played just about as well as one could hope.  I never took Elms seriously for the NT since they are just too young but they look to be a lock for the PIT and that's a pretty significant accomplishment since I thought there was a non-zero chance they would go 0-16.  I thought Husson would do a bit better than they have but I think I underestimated the negative effect of the poor IQ's of the youngsters and even if I did overestimate how they would fare, they are making it to the dance with no worries.  I was pretty worried about Becker making the NT and made a post about it in the regular forum when I was boasting about our 101-19 non-conference mark.  I thought like Mount Ida, 7-3 for Becker was going to be the kiss of death for getting a NT bid.  With two to go against Elms and UMF, Becker has a real good chance of going 10-6 and I just didn't see that coming.  I also didn't see Johnson State being this good.  I thought they were the perfect example of why you wanted to go 10-0 in non-conference if you are in the NAC because I thought the conference road would be a bumpy one for them.  I think my general point is still valid about how you want to go 10-0 to be safe, but with Johnson State sitting at 9-5 right now they never had that bumpy ride.  I think Johnson State is a dark horse for next season when they return 10 players.  Maybe not even that dark since they aren’t exactly hiding this season.

The South hasn’t worked out as well as it has for the North.  I think that is somewhat to be expected since the North is the power division this season (and actually has for maybe 2-3 seasons now … hmm).  Mount Ida is maybe the biggest positive for me.  I’m not sure I ever posted this, but for a while I’ve been thinking that Mount Ida was a lost cause for the NT after “just” going 6-4 in non-conference play because I didn’t think a team that young could win the 8 games necessary in the NAC to get to the NT.  It is a feather in Bob’s cap to have made it to 14.  If not Ida, Salem State is also a huge positive, especially based on my preseason expectations.  They really took me by surprise this season.  By the time non-conference was finished and they were 10-0, I expected them to get to the NT.  Now, I’m not so sure, they really seem to be on the bubble right now.  I think one more win and Salem State is in.  Without it, they might be sweating it.  Biggest disappointment has to be UMPI.  I really don’t think there was anything wrong with my preseason prediction that they were team 1a in the South this season.  If I had to guess, they are on the outside looking.  If they beat Salem State tomorrow to get to 13, they still need to beat Becker to get to 14.  I’m not sure what the odds are but I think it’s less than 50/50 that UMPI wins both and it really would be a shame to have them miss the dance.  Preseason I thought MMA would be 1b and they’ve been a tad on the disappointing side too.  I expected better than 6-10 out of them and unfortunately the NT committee is going to feel the same way with a RPI of 63.  I think MMA probably needs two wins in the CT to get a NT bid and thus far MMA hasn’t been able to pull off a win against a top 10 RPI and that would likely be the second round CT opponent.  UMPI has been enough of a disappointment and when you throw in MMA as well, it’s made UMF’s struggles an afterthought.  I admit to being pretty disappointed to seeing UMF at 0-15 although for the good of the conference, the NAC is grateful that UMF isn’t taking wins away from teams that desperately need them to stay in the NT mix.  While UMF looks to be the worst team in the NAC, that 0-15 mark really does surprise me.   There is decent talent in the backcourt with Byrd, Matsuda, and Bui.  Jantzen is a well-balanced SF.  And in the frontcourt Oscar Flores is setting UMF records and has a couple of solid running mates in Francis and Witmer.  I compare that team to my own and I don’t see *that* many differences.  Seems odd that Thomas is 14-0 and UMF is 0-15.

Speaking of Thomas, my preseason prediction looks a bit silly but I’m still having a hard time coming to terms with the 14-0.  Thomas is better than I thought but I don’t believe the Terriers are this good.  I don’t think I fully understood that you don’t need all-stars at every spot in order to have a really good team.  The last time that I had a team this shallow was season 30 and that also happens to be the last time I missed the NT.  That team had a lot of similarities to this one.  There were four really good players, I signed two transfer players that I didn’t really want (both had WE = 1) but signed because I was attempting to balance out my classes, and the rest of the roster was pretty shallow and/or young.  This Thomas team had three really good players (Edgar, Hager, Dunkley), one JUCO that I didn’t want but signed to balance classes (Kelley), and the rest of the roster that was pretty shallow  and/or young.  I thought gloom and doom because that is what happened in season 30.  What I didn’t take into consideration was that you can lean on players much more heavily now than you could then both in terms of distribution and minutes.  It’s also worth mentioning that while those four were good players (combined six all-conference mentions), two of my current three are elite.  Donald Dunkley is a pretty good center but he doesn’t match up with the best of the best in the D3 world.  My player evaluation formula says that Edward Hager is the best SF in D3 and while that is debatable, the fact that he is one of the best is hard to argue.  And I’m willing to argue that Keith Edgar is the best player in the D3 world.  I’ve been able to get tons more out of these three than I expected; I have never before had a reason to try and squeeze so much out of so few since I typically have a more loaded roster.  This time I didn’t and I’ve been blown away with the success this season.  Preseason I would have been thrilled with a NT bid and a win in the first round.  I’m still not expecting that much more but I do hope there is at least a Sweet 16 showing and I won’t be jaw-hits-the-floor shocked if Thomas makes it farther.

Although for next season … I think it is yours to have, Bob.  You will probably be battling Castleton (and Johnson!) for class of the NAC next season but I don’t think you need to worry about me.  I won’t be as gloom and doom as I was prior to this season, but I don’t think there is any way that I’m going to be able to lose this much talent and not suffer next season.  Especially since there isn’t a lot to really like out of the juniors and sophomores.  I really love the freshman class I have but next season I’m effectively going to only have one senior since Kelly was signed only to balance classes and the juniors don’t look too promising: Dustin Wills still has loads of potential but might not be ready to start, Arthur Leininger hopefully has potential but right now looks to be a bit away from getting minutes, and Martin Paiz is a perfectly acceptable player but isn’t ever going to be a star.  I think as my current freshman mature, Thomas is going to be scary good, but I’m guessing I might have to wait until the year after before they really take the world by storm.

9/16/2011 4:29 PM

  School Coach Conf.
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Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
  #8 Castleton St. rdb03161987 12-4 21-6 7-1 14-4 4-4 7-3 L2 4 2
  #11 Lasell carlbuzz 12-4 21-7 8-2 12-4 5-5 7-3 L1 7 5
  #16 Johnson St. bieberfever 10-6 23-7 6-2 14-4 4-5 6-4 L1 6 7
  Becker nz00 10-6 17-10 5-6 12-3 2-6 6-4 L1 20 6
  Husson tianyi7886 6-10 15-12 4-4 11-7 2-5 5-5 L3 26 8
  Elms tyber90 5-11 12-16 2-7 9-8 2-7 3-7 L1 76 10

 
 
 
 
 
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Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
  #3 Thomas kujayhawk 14-2 26-3 8-1 15-2 8-1 8-2 W3 1 3
 
Mount Ida mizzou77 10-6 16-11 5-4 11-6 3-7 6-4 L1 15 4
  Salem St. luckystar 7-9 17-10 6-5 11-4 1-5 4-6 L1 47 23
  Maine Maritime Academy jazzcog 6-10 18-11 5-4 11-6 2-7 6-4 L1 56 42
  Maine, Presque Isle matt58vt 4-12 13-15 4-5 8-9 3-5 2-8 L1 29 1
  Maine, Farmington teamkf 0-16 9-18 4-9 5-8 0-8 0-10 L18 168 32

 Final regular season #51... prior to NT
We recieved some fairly poor seeds in the NT.
It's difficult to remain in the top 10 when you recieve multiple losses due to playing in one of the best conference DIII has ever seen.
We shall see what happens in the NT. I would think we will kick some butt and have a great post-season. However, one could argue we have a very manipulated RPI and aren't as good as we think.
We'll C

9/22/2011 9:40 AM (edited)
Well everyone got invited to a dance but the fat chick, Floyd.
He did win a couple cakes in a local  "Sisters of the Blind" carnival cake-walk however. So it's all good.

"Realm of the Titans"  aka   North Division
C State   -   E8 $12k
Lasell     -   E8  12k
Johnson St - E8  12k
Becker    -  S16  9k
Husson  -  2nd   6k
Elms       -   PIT  1k

Jr Achievers  aka  South Division
Thomas    -  F4  15k
Mt Ida         -  2nd  6k
Salem St   -  NT   3k
MMA           -  PIT  2nd  2k
UMPI          -  PIT  2nd  2k

looks like RotT = 52k    lowly peons = 28k   total of $80,000 as I count it, but me an math... well u know.
We will be dividing the winnings on a first come first served basis this season... Ida will take $10,000 since we only have one opening... and the rest, well the "Blind Sisters" are needing some new threads...
That's probably safer than having Damien divide it up equally.... could b a bad Omen if ya know what I mean.
9/27/2011 12:16 PM (edited)
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