Line-up efficiency Topic

Nope.  
3/10/2011 9:44 AM
Hokay then.
3/10/2011 9:45 AM
TJ:
I think I have the same thought (or something close to) as llama.  I think likely you are a good manager and build efficient (or synergistic) line-ups.
3/10/2011 10:47 PM
Here are the reults from my latest league.  There seems to be some correlation with R/RC and win pct.  The average, by the way, is 99.9%.


Team Owner Win Pct R/RC
Possy Patrol never_ends 0.617 101.7%
Frito Banditos j01ner .562 97.8%
turtles mudcat1 .370 92.0%
madtown flyers fr8 .333 100.7%
Gascony Galaxy3 mdoane .574 105.5%
atkinsoncolzie garmentalou .568 100.9%
Tommy the Cat psalm69 .562 100.2%
Ithaca Bombers XVIII mark_0dell .444 96.7%
Paradise Lost yogivandalay .525 97.0%
Special Delivery Jones billy6781905 .475 98.1%
The Hard Way ptbnl .457 95.5%
Bayside Tigers jonez_24 .432  94.9%
REGGIE! discodemo .654 98.8%
Bowling for Dollars calbare .444 100.7%
Banned Johnson casandman .407 102.5%
Chicos Bail Bonds tiger1967 .377 97.0%
Thunderchicken Ranch Redlegger .617 108.7%
The Karma Police tommymax .593 101.0%
Monongahelas mbert .519 101.6%
Queens Blvd. Rogues mcginty40 .340 101.5%
Rock The Casbah zubinsum .698 106.4%
Catatonic Hood shaybee .574 101.5%
Take Your Base Batboys .512 102.4%
HIT the BALL in my MOUTH redsoxjosh .346 93.7%
3/10/2011 11:49 PM (edited)
Is there enough variation to be significant?  I don't know the math well enough.  I also don't know if I used the right vocabulary.
3/11/2011 3:45 AM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 3/11/2011 3:45:00 AM (view original):
Is there enough variation to be significant?  I don't know the math well enough.  I also don't know if I used the right vocabulary.
The correlation coefficient was .31 which by itself is not significant at least not with the limited data.  (Statistically one looks for an R^2 value of .9; practically this is more like 0.7.)  However, without being able to adjust for other factors: drafting, managing, pitcher to defense matching, this is pretty much what I expected.

Keep in mind no one has ever claimed that LuE is the only way to win in the sim.  Many of us have said it was important and thus far the evidence back it up.  If you and Boog are correct and honest about your team's 110% LuE, and the average is around 100%, that extra 10% is quite significant: on average 81 runs per season or ~$4million player.  However, this pales in comparsion to the surplus value of a smart draft.  '08 Addie Joss is priced ~$2M too low; '08 Brown is ~$1M too low and Gary Carter, everbody's favorite cookie catcher offers over $1M in surplus value.  So just those three cookies offer more surplus as the best owners can create by creating remarkably efficient line-ups.  I haven't finalized the math yet, but my data so far suggests that matching pitching to defense is worth $2M to $4M.  
3/11/2011 11:32 PM
Mine are usually around 103-108...I have one over 110%.   
3/12/2011 12:59 AM
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My teams seem to be around 105%.  Best team I have found in my leagues thus far is 111%.  The orrelation coefficient seems to be pretty constant across my leagues.

Would anyone care to share their league spreadsheets?
3/12/2011 1:41 AM (edited)
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My other team is 140%. I don't know if that league would interest you in looking at. The reason its so high in this case, is I didn't buy any slugging, which is pretty useless in games where guys are reaching base 70% of the time.

http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb-l/view.asp?lid=93681
3/12/2011 1:41 AM
and your team wasn't any good at scoring runs in that league.   You were 7th our of 12 in runs scored.
3/12/2011 8:25 AM
Incorrect. Everybody ahead of me played in hitters parks. My "A" team was the leagues best. I think I had a 64% win percentage against other hitting teams, and had the second best exp win%. 
3/12/2011 2:20 PM (edited)
Posted by boogerlips on 3/12/2011 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Incorrect. Everybody ahead of me played in hitters parks. My "A" team was the leagues best. I think I had a 64% win percentage against other hitting teams, and had the second best exp win%. 
just keep adding caveats to make yourself feel better
3/12/2011 3:05 PM
Posted by boogerlips on 3/12/2011 1:42:00 AM (view original):
My other team is 140%. I don't know if that league would interest you in looking at. The reason its so high in this case, is I didn't buy any slugging, which is pretty useless in games where guys are reaching base 70% of the time.

http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb-l/view.asp?lid=93681
Boog, I don't think the EGGNOGGIN' league is a valid data set for this discussion.  The more extreme you offense, the more likely you will be to exceed R/RC.  That is already known in real-world baseball.
3/12/2011 4:49 PM
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