Baseline prestige list? Topic

texrangers18
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Absolutely totally different now. IMO, for the better. However, I am completely biased since my alma mater is a D or D- baseline prestige team. So I will never be able to see it through an unbiased lens. Although still difficult, imo, I have the chance to pull a stud.
6/2/2017 1:40 PM
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Posted by Benis on 6/2/2017 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
As well it should be. What you describe is impossible to sell to the public.
That's not the topic here mike. Its whether or not prestige was nerfed. Not whether the nerfing was good for HD.
Meh. The topic evolves. You should too, caveman.
6/2/2017 1:46 PM
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Posted by Benis on 6/2/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
If the game is "6 of us can have the top 6 recruits, screw everybody else", it should be "easier" for others. FACT.
Eh its more than 6. I pulled the 98% out my ***.

but. Look at real life (I cringe when I think that). Duke doesnt compete with buffalo for recruits. They compete with UNC and Syracuse. That's what the game was trying to emulate.
Duke still has advantages over Buffalo. It's just no longer a guarantee that Duke wins. That's a better game to sell to the public than "Get Duke and you'll only have to compete with a handful of teams."
6/2/2017 1:47 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 6/2/2017 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
As well it should be. What you describe is impossible to sell to the public.
That's not the topic here mike. Its whether or not prestige was nerfed. Not whether the nerfing was good for HD.
Meh. The topic evolves. You should too, caveman.
Didn't you go ban hammer on people for going off topic awhile back.
6/2/2017 1:54 PM
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This is page 5. Nothing stays on topic for 5 pages. Your topic is not the original topic. You're off topic!!!! YOU'RE OFF TOPIC!!!!!!
6/2/2017 1:55 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 6/2/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
If the game is "6 of us can have the top 6 recruits, screw everybody else", it should be "easier" for others. FACT.
Eh its more than 6. I pulled the 98% out my ***.

but. Look at real life (I cringe when I think that). Duke doesnt compete with buffalo for recruits. They compete with UNC and Syracuse. That's what the game was trying to emulate.
Duke still has advantages over Buffalo. It's just no longer a guarantee that Duke wins. That's a better game to sell to the public than "Get Duke and you'll only have to compete with a handful of teams."
Right. So the game has changed. Thanks for agreeing with me. I like it when we are internet buddies.
6/2/2017 1:55 PM
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I only agree with you when it benefits my point. You know this.
6/2/2017 1:56 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:56:00 PM (view original):
I only agree with you when it benefits my point. You know this.
Or you're just getting sweet on me.
6/2/2017 2:02 PM
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Maybe.
6/2/2017 2:16 PM
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Question: what does baseline prestige mean?
Answer: it's the starting point, and generally the resting point of a team, when it isn't being taken to new heights or run into the ground. The higher the baseline prestige, the easier it is to maintain a high prestige.
Follow-up question: what use is that in 3.0, hasn't prestige been neutralized?
Answer: no. The answer is no. Prestige has not been neutralized in 3.0.

No one disputes that having a high prestige doesn't have all the advantages it used to have. Losing a degree of advantage can feel like a disadvantage, but that's because of perspective, not because of reality. Prestige is still important. It's still much better to have a high prestige, and therefore a high baseline prestige is still an advantage. But it's not the ballgame. It used to be prestige+scholarships+distance. That was the recruiting ballgame. All three are still part of the equation, but now there are also other factors.
6/2/2017 5:22 PM
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Glad we all agree. Prestige still matters. But not nearly as much as it did before.

6/3/2017 10:18 AM (edited)
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Posted by ryrun on 4/5/2011 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Porkpower listed them on this thread, bout halfway down:

whatifsports.com/forums/threads.asp

Here it is if people don't want to go look there:

ACC
Big East
Big 10
SEC
Pac 10
Big 12

A+ Duke
A+ North Carolina
A Maryland
A- Georgia Tech
A- Wake Forest
A- North Carolina State
A- Boston College
B+ Virginia
B Clemson
B Florida State
B Miami (Fla)
B Virginia Tech

A+ Connecticut
A+ Syracuse
A- Georgetown
A- Louisville
A- Cincinnati
B+ Villanova
B+ Pittsburgh
B West Virginia
B Providence
B Seton Hall
B St. John's
B- Rutgers

A+ Michigan State
A+ Illinois
A- Indiana
A- Wisconsin
B+ Ohio State
B+ Purdue
B Iowa
B Michigan
B Minnesota
B Notre Dame
B- Penn State
B- Northwestern

A+ Kentucky
A- Florida
B+ Arkansas
B+ Tennessee
B LSU
B South Carolina
B Vanderbilt
B Georgia
B Alabama
B Auburn
B Mississippi
B Mississippi State

A+ UCLA
A+ Arizona
A- Stanford
B California
B Oregon
B Oregon State
B Washington State
B Washington
B Arizona State
B USC
B- Hawaii
B- Fresno State

A+ Kansas
A- Oklahoma
B Oklahoma State
B Texas
B Missouri
B Iowa State
B Texas Tech
B Texas A&M
B- Kansas State
B- Colorado
B- Nebraska
B- Baylor

A10
B = St. Joseph's
B = Temple
B = Xavier
B = Dayton
B- = UMass
B- = Charlotte
B- = Rhode Island
B- = St. Bonaventure
B- = Richmond
B- = St. Louis
B- = George Washington
B- = La Salle

WCC
B = Gonzaga
C = Pepperdine
C = Portland
C = San Francisco
C = Santa Clara
C = Loyola Marymount
C = Nevada
C = San Jose St.
D+= Grambling St.
D+= Lipscomb
D+= San Diego
D+= Boise St.

Mountain West
B = Utah
B = UNLV
B- = New Mexico
C = BYU
C = Denver
C = Texas Christian
C = Texas Southern
C = Wyoming
C = Air Force
C = N. Texas
C = San Diego St.
C = Colorado St.

CUSA
B = Memphis
C = The rest

Horizon
B = Marquette
B- = DePaul
C = The rest

Missouri Valley
C = All teams

MAC
C = All teams

Sun Belt
C- = South Florida
D = The rest

All other schools are D

Do people think this list is pretty accurate?
7/14/2017 2:46 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 6/2/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/2/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
If the game is "6 of us can have the top 6 recruits, screw everybody else", it should be "easier" for others. FACT.
Eh its more than 6. I pulled the 98% out my ***.

but. Look at real life (I cringe when I think that). Duke doesnt compete with buffalo for recruits. They compete with UNC and Syracuse. That's what the game was trying to emulate.
Duke still has advantages over Buffalo. It's just no longer a guarantee that Duke wins. That's a better game to sell to the public than "Get Duke and you'll only have to compete with a handful of teams."
Lol more like If youre a newbie don't worry about Duke, Buffalo, or even San Diego St because youll be suffering at D3/D2 for a couple years before you can even think about having Sacramento State.
7/14/2017 4:00 PM
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The fact that NC State, Wake Forest, and Boston College are A-‘s while Texas is a B is crazy. Time for some updating.
3/29/2018 8:46 AM
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As a Creighton fan, Creighton and Wichita St at C is ridiculous
3/29/2018 1:57 PM
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