Posted by yatzr on 11/1/2011 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mrfortune3 on 11/1/2011 1:31:00 PM (view original):This is what most everyone's been doing wrong in regards to checking their vision. If you look at my screenshot, you'll see the top recruit on the screen has the highest "vision rating" of 264.64 and his total rating is only 504. Lower on the screen, I can see a guy within my vision because his vision rating is only 247.22, but his total rating is 521. The total rating has little correlation to the vision rating. Also, the second custom column in my screenshot is the guess ratings from that time. You can see that the guess ratings also have little correlation to the vision rating. Higher vision does not guarantee better recruits. In general, yes, they will be better, but there are many high vision rated recruits that we all would consider to be very poor recruits. Without being able to detect those recruits, you will have a hard time quantifying your vision.
not sure if this is what you meant yatzr but here goes.
in Leahy my Pittsburgh St team(this is my top overall vision team, though my Truman St team can see a 626 player but the drop off is larger)
Season 67 14-2(8-1 conference) 2nd round of the playoffs #12
Season 68 18-1(8-1 conference) national champion #1
Season 69 16-1(9-0 conference) CC, elite 8 berth #2
Season 70 17-1(9-0 conference) CC, final 4 berth #2
Season 71 14-2(8-1 conference) 2nd round of the playoffs #14
Season 72 17-2(9-0 conference) CC, lost national championship #4
Season 73 16-1(9-0 conference) CC, elite 8 berth #2
my vision has gone up every season since season 67(my first year there)
i don't measure vision quite the way you do though. i research the available recruits during the current cycle and take the top 5-10 overall ratings.
i then contrast those top 5-10 after the recruits arrive on campus and next seasons recruits have popped up.
if anyone falls out of the top 5-10 then i know my vision has gone down, if there are new players added then i know that it's gone up.
for instance last season i could see 6 600 rated players or better with the bottom ten guy being 596 and the top guy being 606. this season i can see 10 600 rated players or better with the bottom ten guy being 600 even and the top guy being 610. two of which are considering a DIAA team(Appy St)
If you want to truly know what your vision is and how much it's gone up or down (rather than just knowing that it has gone up or down), this is the way to check it. Note that you don't HAVE to use my tool to check it. Just use a spreadsheet with all of the recruits within your vision, use the OL equation and see what your highest vision rated OL is.
my goal in using the top 5-10 overall isn't to compare vision to another team. which is why i stated that i don't measure vision the way you do.
the purpose is for me to see how close i am to having near DIAA vision, which i can discern from the top 5-10(especially if some are being looked at by DIAA schools). it doesn't mean i'll recruit them if they're not the type of quality i desire. granted most times the best recruits for certain positions are in the lower overall end of the spectrum, but if i can see 10 600 guys then more than likely i can see the top tier ones as well.
it's not flawless, but it gives me a better idea of how high my vision is getting.
the more high end rated recruits in the pool the more likely hood that i will see just about everyone that is of desirable ratings for me to recruit.
that's why i check my vision that way.