Posted by tecwrg on 12/6/2011 1:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 12/6/2011 11:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/6/2011 9:55:00 AM (view original):
I was looking at it on more of a percentage and just using my teams as an example. Nonetheless, SS is the most important and 2B/CF can be debated for #2. 3B/CF could be debated for #4 and followed by LF, RF and 1B. I think #1 and 6, 7, 8 are clear.
Using your formula against the most recent snapshot on the all-world statistical snapshot page, we get the following:
Pos |
Inn |
PO |
A |
E |
+ |
- |
Pctg |
Weight |
SS |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
6.648 |
0.391 |
0.113 |
0.077 |
0.403509 |
4.92 |
2B |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
5.606 |
0.186 |
0.080 |
0.058 |
0.331001 |
4.03 |
3B |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
4.747 |
0.224 |
0.113 |
0.050 |
0.286570 |
3.49 |
CF |
17.915333 |
4.526 |
0.116 |
0.115 |
0.071 |
0.058 |
0.272727 |
3.32 |
LF |
17.915333 |
3.753 |
0.094 |
0.073 |
0.078 |
0.056 |
0.226287 |
2.76 |
RF |
17.915333 |
2.750 |
0.111 |
0.051 |
0.053 |
0.068 |
0.169296 |
2.06 |
1B |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
1.255 |
0.033 |
0.127 |
0.055 |
0.082053 |
1.00 |
The last column (weight) is the relative number compared to the lowest, i,e, first base.
Found an error in my formula, below are the correct numbers. Relative order is unchanged, though the relative weightings compared to 1B move a little bit:
Pos |
Inn |
PO |
A |
E |
+ |
- |
Pctg |
Weight |
SS |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
6.648 |
0.391 |
0.113 |
0.077 |
0.351 |
4.86 |
2B |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
5.606 |
0.186 |
0.080 |
0.058 |
0.304 |
4.21 |
3B |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
4.747 |
0.224 |
0.113 |
0.050 |
0.256 |
3.54 |
CF |
17.915333 |
4.526 |
0.116 |
0.115 |
0.071 |
0.058 |
0.253 |
3.51 |
LF |
17.915333 |
3.753 |
0.094 |
0.073 |
0.078 |
0.056 |
0.212 |
2.93 |
RF |
17.915333 |
2.750 |
0.111 |
0.051 |
0.053 |
0.068 |
0.156 |
2.16 |
1B |
17.915333 |
0.000 |
1.255 |
0.033 |
0.127 |
0.055 |
0.072 |
1.00 |
NERD ALERT:
I was thinking about this while in the car earlier this evening. These numbers put 3B and CF on near equal footing, which doesn't really feel right. The I realized that it excludes the number of times the outfielders "touch" the ball by cleanly fielding base hits. A poor fielding OF may bobble a base hit and that could be reflected as an error, but a clean handle of a base hit doesn't show up in any statistic. This might have a net effect in undervaluing the outfielders a bit when compared to the infielders (whose clean "touches" usually show up as assists).
Also, first basemen are getting undervalued because, while you're eliminating IF putouts (under the assumption that most of them are catching balls throw to them), you're also eliminating the 3-U putouts. Grounders to 2B, SS or 3B get captured because they are usually credited as assists, but grounders to 1B for the most part are not (other than 3-1 PO's or 3-6 FO's). So this may skew the relative weights of everybody to 1B.