Throw the Bum Out - Hall of Fame Edition Topic

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:42:00 PM (view original):
If Baby Jesus played QB for the Jets, would they make the Super Bowl?
If the Red Sox scored more runs than MikeT23 and eight 7-year-olds, would tec admit that the Red Sox were a better offense or would he continue to argue just for the sake of arguing?
If tec stopped arguing with you, would you wither and die?
Do you think that I would survive, considering the fact that there is some other idiot with 50,000+ posts chomping at the bit to argue with me?
7/20/2017 5:01 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:24:00 PM (view original):
I don't understand your problem with me saying offenses in 2000 were better (scored runs as a higher rate) than offenses in 2016.

It's a fact. If you want to talk about why they were better, that's fine. But it doesn't change the fact that they were better.
Perhaps, but again...FULL context.

If I'm not mistaken, homers are being hit at a historic rate these days. You know what Radke gave up a lot of? You guessed it - home runs. It stands to reason he'd give up more today than he did back then. And defense has no bearing on homers.

Also, Scherzer is a strikeout pitcher. He would've fared better than Radke in the 2000s because he would've relied on his defense for fewer outs, as I mentioned previously.

It's not as black and white as saying "2000 pitcher face better offense, give up more runs!" Would Scherzer give up more runs in 2000? Yes. Would Radke give up fewer runs in 2016? Probably, but not necessarily. The key question though is how they'd do relative to each other. There's no reason to think Scherzer wouldn't do better than Radke did in 2000 with similar circumstances. And there's zero reason to think Radke would be a Cy Young caliber pitcher in today's game. You're ignoring the key fact that, eras aside, Scherzer is a Top 3 pitching talent in today's game. Radke was never a Top 10 pitching talent during his career.
7/20/2017 5:51 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:24:00 PM (view original):
I don't understand your problem with me saying offenses in 2000 were better (scored runs as a higher rate) than offenses in 2016.

It's a fact. If you want to talk about why they were better, that's fine. But it doesn't change the fact that they were better.
I guess using that kind of simplistic approach towards baseball allows one to ignore reality.

For instance, Harry (on my son's summer baseball team) must be a better offensive player than either Brad or Mike, because Harry has a higher OPS than either of them.

Because that's what the stats tell me.

STATS, ************!!!!!

7/20/2017 5:57 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 5:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:42:00 PM (view original):
If Baby Jesus played QB for the Jets, would they make the Super Bowl?
If the Red Sox scored more runs than MikeT23 and eight 7-year-olds, would tec admit that the Red Sox were a better offense or would he continue to argue just for the sake of arguing?
If tec stopped arguing with you, would you wither and die?
Do you think that I would survive, considering the fact that there is some other idiot with 50,000+ posts chomping at the bit to argue with me?
You mean the guy who refuses to answer your idiotic "What if......?" questions and counters with EBunny/TFairy MMA matches?
7/20/2017 5:58 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 5:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 5:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:42:00 PM (view original):
If Baby Jesus played QB for the Jets, would they make the Super Bowl?
If the Red Sox scored more runs than MikeT23 and eight 7-year-olds, would tec admit that the Red Sox were a better offense or would he continue to argue just for the sake of arguing?
If tec stopped arguing with you, would you wither and die?
Do you think that I would survive, considering the fact that there is some other idiot with 50,000+ posts chomping at the bit to argue with me?
You mean the guy who refuses to answer your idiotic "What if......?" questions and counters with EBunny/TFairy MMA matches?
Do you think that's the idiot I'm referring to?
7/20/2017 6:13 PM
if MikeT23 and BL stopped asking each other stupid questions they won't answer, would they still have a reason to live?
7/20/2017 6:18 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 6:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 5:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 5:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/20/2017 4:42:00 PM (view original):
If Baby Jesus played QB for the Jets, would they make the Super Bowl?
If the Red Sox scored more runs than MikeT23 and eight 7-year-olds, would tec admit that the Red Sox were a better offense or would he continue to argue just for the sake of arguing?
If tec stopped arguing with you, would you wither and die?
Do you think that I would survive, considering the fact that there is some other idiot with 50,000+ posts chomping at the bit to argue with me?
You mean the guy who refuses to answer your idiotic "What if......?" questions and counters with EBunny/TFairy MMA matches?
Do you think that's the idiot I'm referring to?
Who knows? You don't answer questions, do you?
7/20/2017 7:26 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/20/2017 5:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:24:00 PM (view original):
I don't understand your problem with me saying offenses in 2000 were better (scored runs as a higher rate) than offenses in 2016.

It's a fact. If you want to talk about why they were better, that's fine. But it doesn't change the fact that they were better.
I guess using that kind of simplistic approach towards baseball allows one to ignore reality.

For instance, Harry (on my son's summer baseball team) must be a better offensive player than either Brad or Mike, because Harry has a higher OPS than either of them.

Because that's what the stats tell me.

STATS, ************!!!!!

This cracked me up!!!
7/20/2017 7:40 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/20/2017 5:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:24:00 PM (view original):
I don't understand your problem with me saying offenses in 2000 were better (scored runs as a higher rate) than offenses in 2016.

It's a fact. If you want to talk about why they were better, that's fine. But it doesn't change the fact that they were better.
I guess using that kind of simplistic approach towards baseball allows one to ignore reality.

For instance, Harry (on my son's summer baseball team) must be a better offensive player than either Brad or Mike, because Harry has a higher OPS than either of them.

Because that's what the stats tell me.

STATS, ************!!!!!

If team A scores significantly more runs than team B over an entire season, is it a reasonable assumption to say that team A had better hitters?
7/20/2017 8:00 PM
Any chance they faced shittier pitchers?

And, Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy, who you got?
7/20/2017 8:08 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 8:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/20/2017 5:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:24:00 PM (view original):
I don't understand your problem with me saying offenses in 2000 were better (scored runs as a higher rate) than offenses in 2016.

It's a fact. If you want to talk about why they were better, that's fine. But it doesn't change the fact that they were better.
I guess using that kind of simplistic approach towards baseball allows one to ignore reality.

For instance, Harry (on my son's summer baseball team) must be a better offensive player than either Brad or Mike, because Harry has a higher OPS than either of them.

Because that's what the stats tell me.

STATS, ************!!!!!

If team A scores significantly more runs than team B over an entire season, is it a reasonable assumption to say that team A had better hitters?
That's not what we're talking about though, is it, shitferbrains?

If more runs are scored in season X than were scored in season Y, is it a reasonable assumption to say hitters were inherently better in season X?

Or maybe there were other factors in play?
7/20/2017 8:23 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/20/2017 8:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 8:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/20/2017 5:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/20/2017 4:24:00 PM (view original):
I don't understand your problem with me saying offenses in 2000 were better (scored runs as a higher rate) than offenses in 2016.

It's a fact. If you want to talk about why they were better, that's fine. But it doesn't change the fact that they were better.
I guess using that kind of simplistic approach towards baseball allows one to ignore reality.

For instance, Harry (on my son's summer baseball team) must be a better offensive player than either Brad or Mike, because Harry has a higher OPS than either of them.

Because that's what the stats tell me.

STATS, ************!!!!!

If team A scores significantly more runs than team B over an entire season, is it a reasonable assumption to say that team A had better hitters?
That's not what we're talking about though, is it, shitferbrains?

If more runs are scored in season X than were scored in season Y, is it a reasonable assumption to say hitters were inherently better in season X?

Or maybe there were other factors in play?
Absent a major rule change, sure.
7/20/2017 8:53 PM
No other possible explanation?
7/20/2017 10:53 PM
Why don't you tell me what you think accounts for the majority of the difference in runs scored 2000 and 2016.
7/20/2017 10:55 PM
I already did.
7/20/2017 11:29 PM
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