Obama: Worst President Ever? Topic

Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 1:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 12:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2014 12:35:00 PM (view original):
BL has already said anyone who believes in a "bearded gent on the clouds" is delusional.    I asked, and he never answered, if everyone who believes in a higher power shares the same delusion.  

I was just trying to find out if 98-99% of the world is delusional.
How do you know if I answered or not?
Did you?

I'd like to know the answer.  Are all people who believe in a "higher power" delusional?

It was several months ago, before I blocked him, and he did not.   Of course, he could have answered last week but that would be odd for someone to answer a question 5-6 months later.

7/8/2014 1:50 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 1:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 12:35:00 PM (view original):
What makes you think that answer was disingenuous?
I'd like an answer to this.
I'd like answers to a number of questions that you've avoided or refused to answer.
7/8/2014 1:57 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 1:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 1:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 12:35:00 PM (view original):
What makes you think that answer was disingenuous?
I'd like an answer to this.
I'd like answers to a number of questions that you've avoided or refused to answer.
Like what?
7/8/2014 1:58 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2014 1:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 1:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 12:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2014 12:35:00 PM (view original):
BL has already said anyone who believes in a "bearded gent on the clouds" is delusional.    I asked, and he never answered, if everyone who believes in a higher power shares the same delusion.  

I was just trying to find out if 98-99% of the world is delusional.
How do you know if I answered or not?
Did you?

I'd like to know the answer.  Are all people who believe in a "higher power" delusional?

It was several months ago, before I blocked him, and he did not.   Of course, he could have answered last week but that would be odd for someone to answer a question 5-6 months later.

"BL has already said anyone who believes in a "bearded gent on the clouds" is delusional"

Also, I don't think I ever said that.
7/8/2014 2:03 PM
Posted by mchalesarmy on 7/4/2014 3:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2014 8:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/3/2014 7:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2014 7:18:00 PM (view original):
No one is being forced to take birth control. Everyone is free to exercise whatever religion they want. You just can't force your religion on others who do want to take birth control or get gay married.
Yet you feel it's OK for the government to force people who object to birth control to subsidize it's distribution.

Good job.
You aren't subsidizing anything. You're paying premiums. It's essentially the same as paying salaries and having the employees buy it themselves.

Party A pays Party B. Party B buys birth control

Party A pays Party C. Party C buys birth control.

In which scenario is Party A's religious freedom infringed?
Maybe this hypothetical illustration can answer your question.

Scenario A) An employer offers (as part of its benefits package) an option which deducts X amt of money each week. This money gets paid to some local illegal drug dealers. At any time the employee participating in this (voluntary) program may go to a select number of dealers (in the "network") and get what they need. Just show the membership card to the dealer and you're good to go, because the dealer has already been paid ahead of time through this employer's program.

Scenario B) An employer pays his employee a wage. That employee takes some of that money and buys illegal drugs.

In which scenario is the employer at risk of being found complicit in illegal drug trafficking?
Avoided question by BL.
7/8/2014 2:34 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/5/2014 4:10:00 PM (view original):
And what the heck, let's just cut to the chase:

Are you a religious person?  Do you believe in God, or some other similar higher power?
Does it matter?
I think it does.
Explain
You first.  Answer the questions.
I don't think it matters so I'm not going to answer.
Question BL refused to answer.
7/8/2014 2:36 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 2:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/5/2014 4:10:00 PM (view original):
And what the heck, let's just cut to the chase:

Are you a religious person?  Do you believe in God, or some other similar higher power?
Does it matter?
I think it does.
Explain
You first.  Answer the questions.
I don't think it matters so I'm not going to answer.
Question BL refused to answer.
True. I don't think it matters. Unless you can explain how it does, I won't answer.
7/8/2014 2:46 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 2:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mchalesarmy on 7/4/2014 3:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2014 8:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/3/2014 7:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2014 7:18:00 PM (view original):
No one is being forced to take birth control. Everyone is free to exercise whatever religion they want. You just can't force your religion on others who do want to take birth control or get gay married.
Yet you feel it's OK for the government to force people who object to birth control to subsidize it's distribution.

Good job.
You aren't subsidizing anything. You're paying premiums. It's essentially the same as paying salaries and having the employees buy it themselves.

Party A pays Party B. Party B buys birth control

Party A pays Party C. Party C buys birth control.

In which scenario is Party A's religious freedom infringed?
Maybe this hypothetical illustration can answer your question.

Scenario A) An employer offers (as part of its benefits package) an option which deducts X amt of money each week. This money gets paid to some local illegal drug dealers. At any time the employee participating in this (voluntary) program may go to a select number of dealers (in the "network") and get what they need. Just show the membership card to the dealer and you're good to go, because the dealer has already been paid ahead of time through this employer's program.

Scenario B) An employer pays his employee a wage. That employee takes some of that money and buys illegal drugs.

In which scenario is the employer at risk of being found complicit in illegal drug trafficking?
Avoided question by BL.
Didn't see that one.

A is the answer but I don't see how that is relevant. We aren't talking about illegal drugs.
7/8/2014 2:47 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 2:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 2:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/5/2014 4:10:00 PM (view original):
And what the heck, let's just cut to the chase:

Are you a religious person?  Do you believe in God, or some other similar higher power?
Does it matter?
I think it does.
Explain
You first.  Answer the questions.
I don't think it matters so I'm not going to answer.
Question BL refused to answer.
True. I don't think it matters. Unless you can explain how it does, I won't answer.
Good job.
7/8/2014 2:48 PM
...you're welcome...?
7/8/2014 2:49 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 2:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 2:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 2:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 3:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/7/2014 3:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/7/2014 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/5/2014 4:10:00 PM (view original):
And what the heck, let's just cut to the chase:

Are you a religious person?  Do you believe in God, or some other similar higher power?
Does it matter?
I think it does.
Explain
You first.  Answer the questions.
I don't think it matters so I'm not going to answer.
Question BL refused to answer.
True. I don't think it matters. Unless you can explain how it does, I won't answer.
Good job.
This is why it's relevant.   If a person has a strong belief, in either direction, they cannot be rational when discussing religious matters.

This was proven in Cooperstown last season.    Arfy was a casualty who got his feelings hurt and quit. 
7/8/2014 3:35 PM
Well, ok. I don't have a strong belief in either direction. I'm not religious now but I grew up Catholic.
7/8/2014 3:44 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 3:44:00 PM (view original):
Well, ok. I don't have a strong belief in either direction. I'm not religious now but I grew up Catholic.
That's OK.  Jesus still loves you.
7/8/2014 3:55 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 3:44:00 PM (view original):
Well, ok. I don't have a strong belief in either direction. I'm not religious now but I grew up Catholic.
But I also don't buy the premise that having a strong belief precludes rationality.
7/8/2014 3:59 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/8/2014 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2014 3:44:00 PM (view original):
Well, ok. I don't have a strong belief in either direction. I'm not religious now but I grew up Catholic.
That's OK.  Jesus still loves you.
No thanks. I give zero ***** about what some dead cult leader from 2000 years ago thinks.
7/8/2014 4:01 PM
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