SUPER SECRET Franchise Progressive-FULL Topic

Here are the rules:
(Original rules created by dn3524)

1) Every owner picks an exclusive franchise, Yankees are blacklisted but will be used (read on)
2) The league will include the years 1967-present day
3) We will NOT start in 1967 and move forward. Each owner can use EVERY SEASON ONCE in ANY ORDER they would like
4) Huh ....you say?? Let's say I pick the Cardinals...as I will. Each season I can pick any season between 1967-present day. That is the season I will use ....real life stats and all....for that season of our league.
5) This is where the SUPER SECRET part comes in......the rest of the league won't know what season you are using until they have entered their team in the league.
6) Each year every owner will sitemail me by a deadline with their year selection for their franchise. For example...if someone is using the Reds they would sitemail me with "1981 Reds for our current season." Maybe that same season I am using the 2003 Cardinals. It will be teams from across the decades all in one season. It is important to NOT LET ANY OTHER OWNERS KNOW WHAT SEASON YOU WILL USE.
7) By keeping it a secret every season we will have no idea how our team will compete. Even if we have chosen one of our franchises bad seasons....doesn't mean our team will be bad. Maybe there are a lot of other bad teams in the league.
8) Each year can ONLY BE USED ONCE. Once you use it the year is burned...gone...never to be seen again.
9) Again.....to be clear...you are simply using the real roster of your team. For "combined season" players you may use full OR partial, just as long as they are listed with your team.
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AAA - yes....a decent amount to fill in IP and PA.....but they will be BELOW AVERAGE. (You WILL be able to manually add real life overflow players from your roster to your AAA if you'd like)
DH - No
Trades - Yes, single season only
WW - No
Transaction Deadline - not until end of season

ALIGNMENT

Each season once I have the teams we will align by real life win pct for each team's season....highest to lowest. So the AL West will be the 4 worst teams. That way everyone will still have a chance to win every year

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NEW RULES

1. No 2 consecutive season winning pct chosen can exceed 1.100. In addition, for every 5-season period, at least 1 season used must be sub-.500.

2. Interleague Play - NO. Most owners were against it or had no real preference, May revisit this after a few seasons.

3. Free Agent / Franchise Free Agent Twist
A.
Split all teams into 3 levels to determine FAs (with # of teams awarded FAs)

level 1: overall winning pct .510+ (8 teams)         1 FA for teams under .450 pct
Boston(0), Cincinnati(5), LAD(2), STL(4), Atlanta(12), Oakland(7), Baltimore(11), SF(9)

level 2: winning pct .490-.509 (8 teams)          1 FA for teams under .500 pct
Houston(17), Phil(22), LAAngels(23), CWS(22), NYM(22), Tor/Arz(21), Minn(22), Detroit(21)

level 3: winning pct below .490 (10 teams)           1 FA or Twist for teams .500-.550 pct --PLUS-- additional 1 FA or Twist for teams under .500 pct*(updated)
Pitt(21/15), ChiC(28/12), Clev(25/12), Texas(28/12), KC(19/15), Wash/Mtl(23/14), Milw(21/14), Col/Sea(28/19), Fla/TB(12/16), SD(22/17)

*Limit 1 Twist per season. So for every level 3 team, add the 2 #s together for total teams getting FA-only teams above .550 don't get help


B. Free Agents - New York Yankees plus any other franchise not selected will be available for use, but must be from same season as your team.

C. Franchise FA Twist (optional) - The following franchises: Pittsburgh, Chicago Cubs, Cleveland, Texas, Kansas City, Washington/Montreal, Milwaukee, Colorado/Seattle, Florida/Tampa Bay, San Diego will be given additional option of *twisting* a player from current roster in place of FA. Must use a season from your franchise. Limit 1 per season.

D. FA Tiebreaker - Any 2 or more owners selecting same season will use RL Franchise Winning PCT (1967-2011) as tiebreaker. All owners from teams listed above must state intentions as to Franchise FA option when selecting team. Team with lowest Franchise pct gets 1st choice of that seasons FA regardless of where they are aligned. ie San Diego and San Francisco both select same season. SD (.463) gets 1st pick from FA over SF (.510) even if SD is in ALE and SF is in ALW.


Also I'd like to implement an idea that was suggested some time back (not by me). Assuming we get this off the ground, I will be setting up seasons 1&2 and tracking all selected teams/FA etc. then as we proceed on to season 3 and beyond I'd like to have the returning champ set up the next seasons league as extra reward/incentive. Anyone not wanting to do so doesn't have to; I'll do it in those seasons. I will still be taking on all the responsibilities of running the league etc, but returning champ will get free team. Then I'll sitemail the season I will be using to that owner prior to seeing anyone elses super secret choice.
9/19/2012 12:24 AM (edited)
TEAMS TAKEN
1) St. Louis - dn3524
2) Cincinnati - forte4him
3) Detroit - occsid
4) Oakland - ace1430
5) Atlanta - tabasko
6) Boston - busterglen
7) LA Dodgers - dannino
8) Philadelphia - lenbo1212
9) Florida/Tampa - crazyjoe02
10) Washington/Montreal - ljemd
11) San Francisco - JAMESA
12) Minnesota - specsman
13) Chicago Cubs - mark102857
14) Baltimore - biggriz
15) Texas - reddtrain
16) Houston - Robin4
17) Kansas City - thomsonb
18) Chicago WS - mikemundt
19) San Diego - wgasa
20) New York Mets - JGreene
21) Toronto/Arizona - cleonjones
22) Milwaukee - pugs
23) Cleveland - mountainjack
24)

Teams Available

Colorado/Seattle
LA/Anaheim Angels
Pittsburgh
10/8/2012 8:22 PM (edited)

Here is a basic snapshot of all the franchises by winning pct (1967-2011) with # of seasons for each category and qualifying (in RED) Free Agent seasons. This is the order to be used in deciding FA tiebreakers.

                                                                                                                                S E A S O N S
Level 1 Teams        Pct              Owner                          .600+         .550+           .500+          -.500           -.450           -.400

Boston                    .544             busterglen                        3               17                39                 6                 0                  0
Cincinnati               .534             forte4him                          7               16                26                19                5                  1
LA Dodgers            .530             dannino                           2                15                34                11                2                  1
St Louis                  .525             dn3524                            4                14                31                14                4                  0
Oakland                  .5156           ace1430                          8                16                26                19                7                  3
Atlanta                    .5151           tabasko                           8                16                26                19               12                 3
San Francisco        .5107           JAMESA                          2                13               26                 19                9                  1
Baltimore                .5106           biggriz                             8                 16               24                 21              11                  2

Level 2 Teams     

Houston                  .504              Robin4                            1                  8                 28                17                6                   2
Philadelphia            .502             lenbo1212                     3                 11                23                22               10                  2
LA Angels               .501              Rattlers                           2                 10                22                23               11                  0
Chicago WS           .499              mikemundt                     2                  9                 23                22               10                  2
Arizona/Toronto      .497             cleonjones                     3                 10                28                21               11                  6
NY Mets                  .4962            JGreene                          4                 10                23                22               15                  5
Minnesota               .4958           specsman                      1                 11                23                22               11                  5
Detroit                     .492               occsid                             3                 11                24                21               12                  5

Level 3 Teams

Pittsburgh                .487                                                      3                   9                18                27                15                 5
Chicago Cubs          .485           mark102857                 1                   5                 18                27                12                 2
Texas                       .4841           reddtrain                         0                   5                19                26                12                 5
Cleveland                 .4840          mountainjack                2                   8                16                29                 12                5
Kansas City              .480            thomsonb                      1                   9                18                25                 15                5
Milwaukee                .477            pugs                                0                   8                 15               28                 14                2
Montreal/Wash         .475            ljemd                              1                   6                 17               26                 14                4
Colorado/Seattle      .470                                                    1                   7                 18               36                 19                8
Florida/Tampa          .464             crazyjoe02                    0                  5                 10               23                  16               8
San Diego                 .463             wgasa                          1                   4                 16               27                  17              10 

11/14/2012 12:31 AM (edited)

San Diego claimed by wgasa

9/12/2012 7:21 AM (edited)

Level 2 teams available-1
Houston - .504 ranked 9th of 26. Top team in level 2. Tied for 4th most winning seasons.
28 seasons @ .500 or above - 8 above .550 - 17 below .500 (FA seasons)
Top 5 seasons - .630, .599, .593, .574, .574.
14/15 above .500 seasons (92-06)
Players: Killer B's, Joe Morgan, Nolan Ryan, Mike Scott, JR Richard, Don Sutton,Roy Oswalt.

 

9/24/2012 7:12 PM (edited)

Level 3 teams available-3
 
Cleveland - .484 ranked 20th of 26.
16 seasons @ .500 or above- 8 above .550 - 29 below .500 (2 FA seasons) plus 8 more w/ 1 FA.
Top 5 seasons: .694, .615, .599, .593, .584.
Players: Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, Albert Belle, Kenny Lofton, Roberto Alomar, Gaylord Perry, Luis Tiant, Bert Blyleven, CC Sabathia, Dennis Martinez.

Milwaukee - .477 ranked 22nd of 26.
15 seasons @ .500 or above - 8 above .550 - 28 below .500 (2 FA seasons) plus 7 more w/ 1 FA.
Top 5 seasons: .593, .590, .586, .574, .569.
Players: Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Prince Fielder, Ryan Braun, Cecil Cooper, Don Sutton, Mike Caldwell, Ben Sheets, Rollie Fingers.

Colorado/Seattle combo - .470 ranked 24th of 26.
18 seasons @ .500 or above - 7 above .550 - 36 below .500 (2 FA seasons) plus 11 more w/ 1 FA.
Top 5 seasons: .716, .574, .574, .568, .562.
14 straight losing seasons (Sea 77-90).
Players: Ken Griffey Jr, A-Rod, Ichiro Suzuki, Edgar Martinez, Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Troy Tulowitzki, Randy Johnson,Felix Hernandez.

9/19/2012 12:14 AM (edited)
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awesome, good to have you
9/19/2012 12:13 AM
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Arizona/Toronto
9/24/2012 6:25 PM
thanks mr jones

need 2 more to start
9/24/2012 7:01 PM
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Brew Crew, please.

I'm guessing I would get the pleasure of using the '69 Pilots, but what about the 67 and 68 seasons?
9/28/2012 9:01 AM
good to have you pugs, no 67/68. Some teams have fewer and some teams have more (combos). Correct on '67

back to needing 2
9/28/2012 7:20 PM (edited)
I'll take Cleveland.
9/29/2012 9:11 AM
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