The Challenge - Wisconsin-Platteville Topic

In an effort to keep some of my interest in this game, I'll do a build thread for my Wisky Platte team in the Challenge.  Here's the inaugural class:

Pos Name A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT Miles
QB James Frazier 37 36 57 47 47 14 11 27 37 31 16 51 411 341
RB Patrick Sargent 31 45 47 51 39 51 10 13 26 28 48 44 433 828
WR Michael Stone 42 51 50 56 51 1 25 24 33 6 58 37 434 10
OL Luis Potts 31 6 61 40 51 73 39 28 1 39 25 15 409 143
OL Timothy Stanton 16 18 39 46 45 54 55 11 16 31 32 26 389 119
DL Mark Hull 22 8 70 58 46 59 44 56 13 45 27 3 451 850
DL Gregory Rosa 30 11 45 62 44 61 1 48 30 23 21 14 390 765
LB Arnold Martin 23 36 39 67 38 53 13 38 1 42 30 21 401 741
LB Mike Foreman 44 44 46 57 38 42 25 54 15 26 40 21 452 75
DB Michael Jimenez 35 56 51 63 51 22 24 32 33 44 48 18 477 218
DB Edward Rose 36 58 35 45 32 22 12 28 35 51 33 30 417 170

Overall, I'm happy with my class and they'll be pretty good when they are upperclassmen.  I also have a lot of cash left.  I basically ran out of recruits who were worth spending on and I had zero battles or drama during the process.  Recruiting in empty worlds is BORING.  I need to check out my returnees, but I don't think I've left any position gaps with this class.  If there is a gap or two, I'll have it covered as my future recruiting classes start filling in my roster. 

The one negative I had was that I wanted to cut three players and open up schollies before the season.  Unfortunately, I wasn't paying attention so it didn't happen.  As a result, RSing won't start til next season which could prove costly in the Challenge.

9/5/2012 5:33 PM
So now that my recruiting is done, here's the logic.   I plan to run the Pro Set, 44 and Nickel.  I want as many JRs and SRs starting as possible and I want my classes balanced so there's no dropoff from season to season.  So my target roster will look like this:  

  TARGET  
QB 2 1/2 RS
RB 4 RS
WR 4 RS
TE 2 1/2 RS
OL 9  
DL 8  
LB 8  
DB 8  
K 1  
P 1  
  47  


Starting next season, I'll start my RS rotation (late, as mentioned above): RB and WR every season, QB and TE every other season.  Going forward, I'll recruit 2 OL, DL, LB and DB every season (with one cycle of 3 OL to get to 9) along with my RS rotation for offensive skill players.  K and P will get filled as I need them, but it's more important to me to get my recruiting classes straightened out for long term consistency.

I also took some time to look at my returning roster.  It looks like i'll be thin at LB and DB for a couple of seasons as I get my rotation in order.  On one hand, it'll hurt because of a lack of depth, but on the other hand it makes recruiting much easier for those position.  My hope is that with the thin ranks I can hold my own (.500 or so) in the Challenge for the first couple of seasons and start winning consistently starting in season 3 when a majority of the roster (and probably all of the starters) will be my own recruits.

9/6/2012 11:22 PM (edited)
Full Roster from GUESS:

Name Class Primary
Position
Rating Secondary
Position
Rating Overall
Rank
Position
Rank
Class Rank
Overall
Class Rank
Position
Roberto Coffey Sr. QB 44.13     4452 QB69 1967 QB22
Richard Ramirez Sr. QB 42.47     5572 QB116 2115 QB54
Leslie Malone So. QB 36.58     9129 QB416 2155 QB32
Darryl Vela So. QB 33.35     10206 QB619 2327 QB137
James Frazier Fr. QB 32.66     10335 QB660 2376 QB62
Douglas Gonzalez Sr. RB 55.49 FB 45.22 215 RB53 92 RB18
Kenneth Garcia So. RB 47.56 FB 44.35 2438 RB326 114 RB18
Patrick Sargent Fr. RB 43.09 FB 31.90 5134 RB562 167 RB40
Brian Jones Sr. RB 37.94 FB 32.21 8428 RB777 2351 RB186
Jerry Barnett So. RB 29.94 FB 25.50 10711 RB872 2467 RB180
Ernest Collier Jr. WR 49.65     1429 WR218 249 WR36
Vincent Jenkins Sr. WR 48.10     2110 WR321 1238 WR186
John Thornton Jr. WR 46.40     3052 WR456 780 WR123
Edward Kemp So. WR 43.89     4616 WR674 614 WR106
George Parsons So. WR 43.23     5051 WR738 783 WR136
Michael Stone Fr. WR 36.78     9037 WR1206 1658 WR277
Russell Thomas So. TE 42.67     5434 TE285 944 TE50
Eric Moore Sr. TE 32.12     10443 TE640 2605 TE170
Ronald Herrera Sr. OL 50.46     1130 OL158 673 OL98
Michael Estes Sr. OL 47.84     2284 OL349 1329 OL229
Paul Stafford Jr. OL 45.87     3359 OL538 911 OL118
Joseph Colvin Jr. OL 44.78     4012 OL662 1198 OL170
Justin Perry So. OL 41.87     5964 OL1033 1157 OL150
Larry Charles So. OL 41.80     6008 OL1040 1183 OL157
Luis Potts Fr. OL 37.92     8441 OL1521 1302 OL163
Timothy Stanton Fr. OL 37.89     8459 OL1524 1318 OL166
Alex Burt So. OL 37.27     8774 OL1592 2097 OL407
Joshua Garcia Sr. DT 49.24 DE 43.39 1583 DT308 944 DT187
Jared Fisher Sr. DT 48.75 DE 43.93 1789 DT345 1053 DT202
Joe Watkins Sr. DT 48.03 DE 43.34 2166 DT419 1267 DT244
Rick Phillips Jr. DT 45.40 DE 41.01 3632 DT687 1034 DT205
Charles Moore So. DT 44.12 DE 39.74 4460 DT835 562 DT114
Harold Miller So. DT 42.16 DE 36.26 5767 DT1062 1087 DT215
Charlie Bowman Fr. DT 39.50 DE 33.18 7470 DT1350 813 DT173
Mark Hull Fr. DT 38.28 DE 31.13 8218 DT1464 1186 DT241
Michael Butler So. ILB 44.39 OLB 42.93 4286 ILB418 507 ILB79
Mike Foreman Fr. ILB 38.89 OLB 38.15 7847 ILB688 997 ILB133
Arnold Martin Fr. ILB 35.92 OLB 35.18 9403 ILB801 1871 ILB175
Jonathan Lee Jr. OLB 40.78 ILB 40.60 6677 OLB188 1993 OLB70
Charles Varner Jr. OLB 35.80 ILB 35.22 9453 OLB313 2272 OLB82
Dennis Leblanc Sr. CB 46.97 S 42.40 2740 CB150 1533 CB94
Joel Holmes Jr. S 45.22 CB 43.16 3738 S314 1093 S96
Charles Newman So. S 41.86 CB 41.41 5968 S517 1161 S111
William Grove So. S 40.83 CB 38.78 6637 S572 1430 S138
Edward Rose Fr. S 40.16 CB 39.71 7074 S604 646 S40
Michael Jimenez Fr. S 38.42 CB 35.83 8136 S691 1142 S87
Edward Wood Sr. K 49.60     1446 K40 864 K28
Bobby Murphy Sr. K 44.50     4217 K106 1924 K59
David Burnett So. P 44.70     4072 P74 446 P8
Philip Jacobson Jr. P 40.55     6842 P122 2022 P38

Tracking:

      Challenge Challenge Challenge Overall Overall
Season Full Roster Recruit Class Season W L W L
79 158 59          
80 160 171          
81 109 136          
82 150 91          
83 82 52 1        
84     2        
85     3        
86     4        
87     5        
88     6        
89     7        


Depth charts are set and they won't be changed barring an injury.  Gameplans are set and I doubt I'll change these at all for the course of the Challenge.  I may mix them up if I feel I can press an advantage, but I won't change the actual gameplans.  Even mixing them up may be more time than I am willing to spend, but who knows.

I've got one exhibition with FR then the regular season starts.  

If the recruit class ranking that caesari posted are accurate, I feel very good about my chances.  I should have a talent advantage by season 3 or 4 giving me a good springboard til the end of the Challenge in season 7.  I expect to start winning consistently when this talent advantage happens and would only expect to lose in the Challenge by being out coached (whatever that means under engine 2.0) or by having bad luck (maybe the same thing as being out coached with 2.0).  We'll all see if my predictions come true in a very public way as the seasons unfold.
9/9/2012 5:32 PM
They should be correct. Good thread.
9/9/2012 5:40 PM
Won my first game.  Against a long time human coached team.  That went to the playoffs last season.  Unbelievable.  

It's obviously not talent since I have a roster full of SIMs ex-FR class.  It's not coaching since I haven't a clue about this new engine.  Which leaves us with the engine giving me the W.

I'm sure this is going to come back and bite me when I actually have more talent than my opponent and I lose, probably around season 3 or 4.  I'm sure I'll ***** about it then.  But for right now, I'm just going to laugh and take the W.

I have another game against a playoff team tomorrow and expect to get throttled.  But with this engine . . . 

9/11/2012 4:05 PM (edited)
Good to have one of the greats back in the game.  I hope you get no luck against my Huntingdon team tomorrow...lol.  GL in the challange and GL tomorrow. 
9/11/2012 6:17 PM
gg superv97.  

For a half, I thought I was a genius.  Then the engine did what it was supposed to do and I got rolled up.  1-1 against human playoff teams.  Still better than I thought I would fare.  

I also just realized that i have 4 humans in conference and i play all of them.  When I signed up, there was only 1 coach in my division and 2 in the other.  Another coach signed up after I did in my division, so there are now 2 other coaches in my division and I play both coaches from the other division.  Hopefully the schedule flips next season and I don't get either coach in the other division for the next 2 seasons.  That should give me a better shot to bring my win total up for recruiting.
9/12/2012 11:52 PM
We finished OOC at 4-1 and ranked #12.  With 3 wins against SIMs, I dont' know how this happened.  I guess the world is so empty that humans don't play each other.  The hope going forward is that we win against the SIMs and split against the humans which would bring us to 10-3.  If we get lucky in this barren world it may lead to a playoff appearance in season 1.  The fact that I'm even thinking this is a possibility is a testament to how far this game has fallen.

      Challenge Challenge Challenge Overall Overall
Season Full Roster Recruit Class Season W L W L
79 158 59          
80 160 171          
81 109 136          
82 150 91          
83 82 52 1 0 0 4 1
84     2        
85     3        
86     4        
87     5        
88     6        
89     7        
9/16/2012 12:59 PM
      Challenge Challenge Challenge Overall Overall
Season Full Roster Recruit Class Season W L W L
79 158 59          
80 160 171          
81 109 136          
82 150 91          
83 82 52 1 0 0 10 3
84     2        
85     3        
86     4        
87     5        
88     6        
89     7        


Finished the season at 10-3, pretty much what I expected at the OOC break.  Unfortunately, I didn't make the CC and I finished at #34, a few spots out of the playoffs.  No extra games for practice, which is what building teams need.  Next season I expect to recruit at about the same Recruit Class Rank and start the improvement on my Full Class Rank.
9/24/2012 11:18 PM
Formation growth was right on expectations.  Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
James Frazier Fr. QB 3.0   11 6 18 10 8 15 - - - - - - 15
Leslie Malone So. QB 2.8   14 18 24 16 18 20 - - - - - - 17
Darryl Vela So. QB 3.2   19 18 26 20 15 18 - - - - - - 25
Roberto Coffey Sr. QB 3.3 26 28 32 26 27 25 - - - - - - 31
Richard Ramirez Sr. QB 2.7   27 29 37 26 35 27 - - - - - - 29
  QB Averages: 20 20 27 20 21 21 - - - - - - 23
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Patrick Sargent Fr. RB 2.9 9 9 18 9 11 9 - - - - - - 19
Jerry Barnett So. RB 2.3   17 18 21 15 15 16 - - - - - - 17
Kenneth Garcia So. RB 3.2   13 15 26 17 15 11 - - - - - - 24
Douglas Gonzalez Sr. RB 2.4 28 25 33 26 22 28 - - - - - - 28
Brian Jones Sr. RB 3.2   32 29 39 34 26 31 - - - - - - 29
  RB Averages: 20 19 27 20 18 19 - - - - - - 23
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Michael Stone Fr. WR 3.2 9 8 17 9 13 10 - - - - - - 11
Edward Kemp So. WR 2.3   14 18 20 14 15 14 - - - - - - 22
George Parsons So. WR 2.9   20 18 23 14 18 18 - - - - - - 25
Ernest Collier Jr. WR 2.7 23 16 27 23 25 20 - - - - - - 27
John Thornton Jr. WR 3.0   25 25 30 23 24 23 - - - - - - 28
Vincent Jenkins Sr. WR 3.2   39 35 37 36 34 31 - - - - - - 30
  WR Averages: 22 20 26 20 22 19 - - - - - - 24
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Russell Thomas So. TE 2.9 19 15 28 14 17 18 - - - - - - 26
Eric Moore Sr. TE 2.6   24 23 32 22 23 29 - - - - - - 27
  TE Averages: 21 19 30 18 20 23 - - - - - - 26
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Luis Potts Fr. OL 2.9 12 8 18 9 11 17 - - - - - - 19
Timothy Stanton Fr. OL 3.4 8 8 15 7 10 13 - - - - - - 15
Alex Burt So. OL 2.5   15 17 30 15 15 15 - - - - - - 23
Larry Charles So. OL 3.0 19 16 27 18 15 16 - - - - - - 24
Justin Perry So. OL 2.9   14 19 28 21 15 14 - - - - - - 27
Joseph Colvin Jr. OL 2.3   23 20 25 22 22 22 - - - - - - 19
Paul Stafford Jr. OL 3.2   26 19 33 22 23 22 - - - - - - 29
Michael Estes Sr. OL 2.8 29 25 39 28 27 29 - - - - - - 31
Ronald Herrera Sr. OL 2.8 30 26 40 27 34 32 - - - - - - 32
  OL Averages: 19 17 28 19 19 20 - - - - - - 24
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Charlie Bowman Fr. DL 2.9 - - - - - - 10 14 19 9 12 4 16
Mark Hull Fr. DL 2.3 - - - - - - 8 10 15 9 15 8 16
Harold Miller So. DL 2.5 - - - - - - 13 14 23 13 20 14 23
Charles Moore So. DL 2.7   - - - - - - 19 20 25 16 21 19 24
Rick Phillips Jr. DL 2.3   - - - - - - 21 19 25 20 27 21 24
Jared Fisher Sr. DL 2.9 - - - - - - 28 28 34 31 36 31 31
Joshua Garcia Sr. DL 2.8   - - - - - - 25 28 29 28 30 27 31
Joe Watkins Sr. DL 3.0   - - - - - - 28 29 37 27 35 30 30
  DL Averages: - - - - - - 19 20 26 19 25 19 24
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Mike Foreman Fr. LB 3.1 - - - - - - 10 15 18 9 23 13 22
Arnold Martin Fr. LB 3.2 - - - - - - 6 14 19 11 24 11 19
Michael Butler So. LB 3.7   - - - - - - 13 16 27 18 26 12 24
Jonathan Lee Jr. LB 3.3 - - - - - - 24 27 33 27 31 24 32
Charles Varner Jr. LB 2.7   - - - - - - 16 26 21 21 28 17 21
  LB Averages: - - - - - - 14 20 24 17 27 15 24
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Michael Jimenez Fr. DB 2.6 - - - - - - 12 8 17 16 15 13 15
Edward Rose Fr. DB 3.1 - - - - - - 10 10 25 6 17 5 11
William Grove So. DB 2.6   - - - - - - 14 15 21 18 25 19 19
Charles Newman So. DB 3.1   - - - - - - 21 20 27 21 28 17 25
Joel Holmes Jr. DB 3.6 - - - - - - 24 28 32 19 31 26 25
Dennis Leblanc Sr. DB 3.3 - - - - - - 36 29 40 33 41 35 40
  DB Averages: - - - - - - 19 18 27 19 26 19 22
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Bobby Murphy Sr. K 2.4   - - - - - - - - - - - - 30
Edward Wood Sr. K 3.7 - - - - - - - - - - - - 36
  K Averages: - - - - - - - - - - - - 33
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
David Burnett So. P 2.6 - - - - - - - - - - - - 23
Philip Jacobson Jr. P 2.9   - - - - - - - - - - - - 29
  P Averages: - - - - - - - - - - - - 26
  Team Averages: 20 19 28 19 20 20 18 20 26 18 26 18 24
 

Player Formation IQs - Season Change

* denotes players with a previous redshirt season and is the eligibility
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
James Frazier Fr. QB 3.0   0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Leslie Malone So. QB 2.8   0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Darryl Vela So. QB 3.2   0 0 9 0 0 0 - - - - - - 8
Roberto Coffey Sr. QB 3.3 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Richard Ramirez Sr. QB 2.7   0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
  QB Averages: 0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Patrick Sargent Fr. RB 2.9 0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Jerry Barnett So. RB 2.3   0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Kenneth Garcia So. RB 3.2   0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Douglas Gonzalez Sr. RB 2.4 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Brian Jones Sr. RB 3.2   0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
  RB Averages: 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Michael Stone Fr. WR 3.2 0 0 9 0 0 0 - - - - - - 8
Edward Kemp So. WR 2.3   0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
George Parsons So. WR 2.9   0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Ernest Collier Jr. WR 2.7 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
John Thornton Jr. WR 3.0   0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Vincent Jenkins Sr. WR 3.2   0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 8
  WR Averages: 0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Russell Thomas So. TE 2.9 0 0 9 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Eric Moore Sr. TE 2.6   0 0 5 0 0 0 - - - - - - 4
  TE Averages: 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Luis Potts Fr. OL 2.9 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Timothy Stanton Fr. OL 3.4 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Alex Burt So. OL 2.5   0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Larry Charles So. OL 3.0 0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Justin Perry So. OL 2.9   0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Joseph Colvin Jr. OL 2.3   0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 6
Paul Stafford Jr. OL 3.2   0 0 8 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Michael Estes Sr. OL 2.8 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Ronald Herrera Sr. OL 2.8 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
  OL Averages: 0 0 7 0 0 0 - - - - - - 7
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Charlie Bowman Fr. DL 2.9 - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 7
Mark Hull Fr. DL 2.3 - - - - - - 0 0 6 0 6 0 6
Harold Miller So. DL 2.5 - - - - - - 0 0 6 0 6 0 6
Charles Moore So. DL 2.7   - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 7
Rick Phillips Jr. DL 2.3   - - - - - - 0 0 5 0 5 0 5
Jared Fisher Sr. DL 2.9 - - - - - - 0 0 6 0 6 0 6
Joshua Garcia Sr. DL 2.8   - - - - - - 0 0 6 0 6 0 6
Joe Watkins Sr. DL 3.0   - - - - - - 0 0 6 0 6 0 6
  DL Averages: - - - - - - 0 0 6 0 6 0 6
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Mike Foreman Fr. LB 3.1 - - - - - - 0 0 8 0 7 0 8
Arnold Martin Fr. LB 3.2 - - - - - - 0 0 8 0 8 0 8
Michael Butler So. LB 3.7   - - - - - - 0 0 8 0 8 0 8
Jonathan Lee Jr. LB 3.3 - - - - - - 0 0 8 0 8 0 8
Charles Varner Jr. LB 2.7   - - - - - - 0 0 5 0 5 0 5
  LB Averages: - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 7
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Michael Jimenez Fr. DB 2.6 - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 7
Edward Rose Fr. DB 3.1 - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 8
William Grove So. DB 2.6   - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 7
Charles Newman So. DB 3.1   - - - - - - 0 0 8 0 8 0 8
Joel Holmes Jr. DB 3.6 - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 8 0 8
Dennis Leblanc Sr. DB 3.3 - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 7
  DB Averages: - - - - - - 0 0 7 0 7 0 8
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
Bobby Murphy Sr. K 2.4   - - - - - - - - - - - - 8
Edward Wood Sr. K 3.7 - - - - - - - - - - - - 9
  K Averages: - - - - - - - - - - - - 8
Name Year Pos GPA St IFor NDB Pro Shot Trip Wish 3-4 4-3 4-4 5-2 Nick Dime ST
David Burnett So. P 2.6 - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
Philip Jacobson Jr. P 2.9   - - - - - - - - - - - - 8
  P Averages: - - - - - - - - - - - - 8
  Team Averages: 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 7 0 7
9/24/2012 11:21 PM
For the most part, attribute growth was what I expected.  There were two exceptions.  I expected QB James Frazier to grow one more point in cores.  He did RS, so that is part of it.  Hopefully he got the growth but just got bad rounding.  The other exception was OL TImothy Stanton who missed 3 games due to injury and then was limited in the last three games when he came back.  Otherwise, I'm happy with what I got and am confident I'm on the right track in the development portion of this team.

One thing to note is that it's quite easy to see the difference in my recruits vs the SIM recruits in TOT.  The difference is evident even when you consider that my recruits are all FR, typically the slowest year of growth for a player.  The difference in player growth should be even more visible at the end of next season, their SO year, typically their largest season of growth.  The key to developing a talented team in D3 is to know the relationship between the variables which produce growth.  Without understanding those, you can only rely on vision to increase your talent level.  In empty worlds, wins are easy to come by so this may work to a point, but vision alone will never get you a team stacked with elite talent.


Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
James Frazier Fr. QB   41 39 60 47 50 19 8 24 40 36 19 55 438
Leslie Malone So. QB   45 31 54 27 63 35 24 1 44 43 34 42 443
Darryl Vela So. QB   34 40 42 49 53 31 33 17 26 39 28 43 435
Roberto Coffey Sr. QB 37 36 66 28 46 47 4 1 43 54 46 49 457
Richard Ramirez Sr. QB   47 49 69 49 66 41 1 3 37 47 54 44 507
  QB Averages: 41 39 58 40 56 35 14 9 38 44 36 47 456
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Patrick Sargent Fr. RB 37 50 51 61 44 56 15 10 31 33 53 47 488
Jerry Barnett So. RB   40 42 35 43 62 24 27 16 32 26 31 31 409
Kenneth Garcia So. RB   31 52 50 37 38 62 46 23 45 54 60 25 523
Douglas Gonzalez Sr. RB 62 55 53 53 62 63 33 18 61 42 60 38 600
Brian Jones Sr. RB   48 48 60 32 56 26 28 1 31 35 43 46 454
  RB Averages: 44 49 50 45 52 46 30 14 40 38 50 38 495
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Michael Stone Fr. WR 47 55 54 67 55 6 22 21 39 12 62 42 482
Edward Kemp So. WR   49 63 52 44 52 42 25 1 42 37 49 37 493
George Parsons So. WR   33 42 47 47 49 27 30 1 67 48 41 40 472
Ernest Collier Jr. WR 51 67 53 44 60 22 14 10 63 37 54 46 521
John Thornton Jr. WR   57 52 48 47 55 31 21 6 45 44 49 61 516
Vincent Jenkins Sr. WR   44 54 58 54 58 44 31 1 59 48 49 50 550
  WR Averages: 47 56 52 51 55 29 24 7 53 38 51 46 506
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Russell Thomas So. TE 40 28 56 64 54 50 50 6 57 32 47 45 529
Eric Moore Sr. TE   44 33 68 16 65 44 32 1 35 23 40 28 429
  TE Averages: 42 30 62 40 60 47 41 3 46 28 43 36 479
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Luis Potts Fr. OL 36 9 64 48 55 76 44 25 4 43 28 21 453
Timothy Stanton Fr. OL 21 20 43 53 48 58 59 9 18 35 35 31 430
Alex Burt So. OL   36 23 51 49 34 56 46 15 20 27 26 39 422
Larry Charles So. OL 32 20 55 57 36 77 52 24 25 35 31 32 476
Justin Perry So. OL   36 14 56 51 47 61 53 19 19 42 52 44 494
Joseph Colvin Jr. OL   32 27 63 45 58 65 56 20 33 43 40 45 527
Paul Stafford Jr. OL   42 25 53 39 47 70 46 26 37 44 26 55 510
Michael Estes Sr. OL 40 25 54 56 56 73 60 19 25 49 49 36 542
Ronald Herrera Sr. OL 45 22 67 61 61 65 68 9 33 48 43 56 578
  OL Averages: 35 20 56 51 49 67 54 18 24 41 37 40 492
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Charlie Bowman Fr. DL 25 21 62 58 50 64 26 62 12 44 17 30 471
Mark Hull Fr. DL 29 12 74 70 51 64 41 62 17 50 32 12 514
Harold Miller So. DL 27 24 52 44 45 72 25 52 39 40 20 38 478
Charles Moore So. DL   49 22 46 43 54 56 21 51 31 30 47 41 491
Rick Phillips Jr. DL   53 25 60 33 55 51 12 58 20 25 32 51 475
Jared Fisher Sr. DL 41 33 49 42 65 64 4 65 31 48 35 36 513
Joshua Garcia Sr. DL   57 20 41 33 63 60 8 63 18 43 17 52 475
Joe Watkins Sr. DL   43 29 64 35 61 60 9 59 21 29 35 56 501
  DL Averages: 40 23 56 45 55 61 18 59 24 38 29 39 490
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Mike Foreman Fr. LB 49 47 50 68 43 47 22 58 18 32 45 27 506
Arnold Martin Fr. LB 29 40 43 71 42 57 10 43 5 47 35 27 449
Michael Butler So. LB   31 44 44 47 51 54 17 55 19 42 39 52 495
Jonathan Lee Jr. LB 42 40 69 73 72 49 18 43 24 49 60 35 574
Charles Varner Jr. LB   29 40 59 19 55 33 6 44 15 27 48 48 423
  LB Averages: 36 42 53 56 53 48 15 49 16 39 45 38 489
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Michael Jimenez Fr. DB 40 60 54 76 55 26 21 37 36 49 53 23 530
Edward Rose Fr. DB 41 62 39 54 37 26 9 33 38 56 39 34 468
William Grove So. DB   45 50 54 57 66 40 9 44 29 46 49 35 524
Charles Newman So. DB   45 45 49 53 39 41 14 46 19 48 60 45 504
Joel Holmes Jr. DB 52 60 65 45 54 26 14 51 43 47 53 40 550
Dennis Leblanc Sr. DB 48 63 64 54 51 37 21 36 39 41 59 56 569
  DB Averages: 45 56 54 56 50 33 15 41 34 48 52 39 524
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Bobby Murphy Sr. K   64 26 68 99 69 41 6 6 35 45 16 56 531
Edward Wood Sr. K 40 22 65 84 67 58 16 1 25 43 22 52 495
  K Averages: 52 24 67 91 68 50 11 4 30 44 19 54 513
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
David Burnett So. P 39 20 56 55 49 54 3 16 8 44 11 42 397
Philip Jacobson Jr. P   43 50 70 77 50 41 20 4 14 53 33 45 500
  P Averages: 41 35 63 66 50 47 12 10 11 48 22 44 448
  Team Averages: 41 38 56 51 53 48 26 26 31 41 40 41 492
 

Player Ratings - Season Change

* denotes players with a previous redshirt season and is the eligibility
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
James Frazier Fr. QB   4 3 3 0 3 5 -3 -3 3 5 3 4 27
Leslie Malone So. QB   3 3 3 -2 3 4 -3 -2 3 4 3 4 23
Darryl Vela So. QB   4 3 4 -3 3 4 -3 -3 3 4 3 4 23
Roberto Coffey Sr. QB 3 3 2 1 3 3 -3 0 3 3 2 3 23
Richard Ramirez Sr. QB   4 3 3 -7 3 4 0 -3 3 5 3 5 23
  QB Averages: 4 3 3 -2 3 4 -2 -2 3 4 3 4 24
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Patrick Sargent Fr. RB 6 5 4 10 5 5 5 -3 5 5 5 3 55
Jerry Barnett So. RB   5 4 5 -2 3 6 3 -3 3 4 6 3 37
Kenneth Garcia So. RB   6 4 4 0 4 4 2 -3 3 3 4 4 35
Douglas Gonzalez Sr. RB 4 4 5 2 4 4 4 -3 3 4 5 4 40
Brian Jones Sr. RB   4 4 3 -5 3 5 2 0 3 3 4 2 28
  RB Averages: 5 4 4 1 4 5 3 -2 3 4 5 3 39
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Michael Stone Fr. WR 5 4 4 11 4 5 -3 -3 6 6 4 5 48
Edward Kemp So. WR   3 3 3 -3 3 2 -3 0 5 3 4 4 24
George Parsons So. WR   4 4 3 -2 3 3 -3 -2 3 3 4 4 24
Ernest Collier Jr. WR 4 3 3 3 4 4 -3 -3 4 4 4 4 31
John Thornton Jr. WR   3 4 3 -3 3 3 -3 -3 5 3 4 3 22
Vincent Jenkins Sr. WR   4 4 3 -7 3 2 -3 -3 4 3 4 4 18
  WR Averages: 4 4 3 0 3 3 -3 -2 4 4 4 4 28
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Russell Thomas So. TE 5 4 4 10 4 4 4 -3 4 5 5 4 50
Eric Moore Sr. TE   3 2 2 -2 2 2 3 0 3 3 3 3 24
  TE Averages: 4 3 3 4 3 3 4 -2 4 4 4 4 37
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Luis Potts Fr. OL 5 3 3 8 4 3 5 -3 3 4 3 6 44
Timothy Stanton Fr. OL 5 2 4 7 3 4 4 -2 2 4 3 5 41
Alex Burt So. OL   3 1 3 -3 3 3 3 -3 1 3 2 3 19
Larry Charles So. OL 5 2 4 7 5 3 5 -3 2 4 3 5 42
Justin Perry So. OL   5 2 4 -1 4 4 4 -3 2 3 2 4 30
Joseph Colvin Jr. OL   6 2 4 -1 4 4 5 -3 1 4 3 5 34
Paul Stafford Jr. OL   4 2 4 -3 4 3 5 -3 0 3 3 4 26
Michael Estes Sr. OL 5 2 4 4 4 3 4 -3 2 4 2 5 36
Ronald Herrera Sr. OL 6 3 4 4 4 5 5 -3 2 4 4 5 43
  OL Averages: 5 2 4 2 4 4 4 -3 2 4 3 5 35
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Charlie Bowman Fr. DL 6 3 4 10 5 5 -3 5 3 4 5 6 53
Mark Hull Fr. DL 7 4 4 12 5 5 -3 6 4 5 5 9 63
Harold Miller So. DL 5 2 4 6 4 3 -3 5 0 4 4 5 39
Charles Moore So. DL   4 3 5 -2 4 5 -3 5 1 4 2 5 33
Rick Phillips Jr. DL   3 2 3 -3 3 4 -3 3 1 3 2 3 21
Jared Fisher Sr. DL 4 2 4 3 2 3 -3 3 1 3 3 4 29
Joshua Garcia Sr. DL   2 2 3 -4 2 3 -3 3 1 2 2 3 16
Joe Watkins Sr. DL   4 2 3 -4 3 4 -3 4 2 3 2 4 24
  DL Averages: 4 2 4 2 4 4 -3 4 2 4 3 5 35
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Mike Foreman Fr. LB 5 3 4 11 5 5 -3 4 3 6 5 6 54
Arnold Martin Fr. LB 6 4 4 4 4 4 -3 5 4 5 5 6 48
Michael Butler So. LB   4 3 3 0 3 3 -3 3 2 4 4 3 29
Jonathan Lee Jr. LB 5 4 3 8 3 5 -3 6 3 5 4 6 49
Charles Varner Jr. LB   4 2 2 -1 2 3 -3 3 2 4 3 3 24
  LB Averages: 5 3 3 4 3 4 -3 4 3 5 4 5 41
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Michael Jimenez Fr. DB 5 4 3 13 4 4 -3 5 3 5 5 5 53
Edward Rose Fr. DB 5 4 4 9 5 4 -3 5 3 5 6 4 51
William Grove So. DB   4 4 3 4 3 3 -3 4 4 5 5 4 40
Charles Newman So. DB   4 4 3 -1 4 2 -3 4 3 4 4 3 31
Joel Holmes Jr. DB 4 4 3 3 4 4 -3 4 3 5 5 4 40
Dennis Leblanc Sr. DB 4 3 3 3 4 3 -3 4 3 5 4 3 36
  DB Averages: 4 4 3 5 4 3 -3 4 3 5 5 4 42
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Bobby Murphy Sr. K   4 -2 4 0 3 5 -3 -3 2 4 -3 5 16
Edward Wood Sr. K 6 -2 4 6 3 4 -3 0 2 4 -3 5 26
  K Averages: 5 -2 4 3 3 4 -3 -2 2 4 -3 5 21
Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
David Burnett So. P 4 -2 4 9 3 3 -3 -3 3 4 -3 4 23
Philip Jacobson Jr. P   5 -2 3 4 4 5 -3 -3 3 4 -3 5 22
  P Averages: 4 -2 4 6 4 4 -3 -3 3 4 -3 4 22
  Team Averages: 4 3 4 2 4 4 -1 0 3 4 3 4 34
9/26/2012 2:17 PM (edited)
I continued my balanced class approach and started my full RS cycle with a RB, WR and TE.  I also chose this season to recruit 3 OL so I'll return to 2 OL going forward.  Once again, no issues with recruiting and I pretty much ran out of worthwhile players to scout before I ran out of cash.  I had a difficult time finding good DL so I felt like I had to settle on that position.  I also signed the wrong DB.  I signed Sanders instead of Saunders.  The mistake won't cost much since they'll both be about the same when they graduate, but it's still a stupid mistake on my part and just a sign on how sloppy I've become.  This never would have happened when I was paying attention.  Overall, a solid class who will be pretty good when they're upperclassmen.  

I did have one coach who tried to poach an RB on the signing cycle.  I don't mind getting into battles, but trying to steal a recruit on the last cycle when the other coach can't fight back is where I draw the line.  I still signed the RB, but given the opportunity there will be retaliation

Pos Name A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT Miles
RB Marvin Branch 35 33 54 42 47 49 45 17 33 20 61 29 465 61
RB Harry Taylor 40 53 45 44 49 55 29 24 37 18 45 26 465 126
WR John Hoffman 40 56 52 63 29 36 39 20 33 42 56 17 483 499
WR Ronald Macdonald 24 58 43 50 45 26 32 8 40 40 55 39 460 360
TE Robert Barnard 25 49 37 44 45 39 32 13 27 48 61 29 449 300
TE Brian Walter 7 46 26 45 42 50 40 17 51 35 51 36 446 563
OL Richard Lyons 1 12 48 50 50 65 55 22 27 24 15 32 401 957
OL Kenneth Smith 31 4 45 48 40 62 54 13 27 19 29 35 407 1595
OL Richard Hilliard 1 9 56 32 34 60 57 32 2 36 17 26 362 920
DL Michael Baker 30 23 41 52 43 56 28 55 13 34 34 18 427 816
DL Terry Bennett 27 14 39 36 41 53 17 58 1 47 19 53 405 327
LB Lee Anthony 37 45 50 60 31 58 25 45 3 26 28 50 458 1098
LB Lester Watts 26 40 37 52 56 38 22 51 39 42 43 24 470 210
DB Andrew Hartley 24 49 44 59 33 21 12 48 32 42 54 33 451 127
DB Jason Sanders 23 54 40 45 37 25 12 15 47 46 46 28 418 222
K Gabriel Adams 36 35 35 46 50 34 40 13 11 42 46 42 430 208
.


10/14/2012 11:47 AM
The new season is about to start and the Challenge will be officially underway.

Below is the full roster from GUESS.  Of note is the big change in class ranking of all the SO from their initial FR season.  This is the kind of improvement you should be looking for to see if you're on the right track to building a solid team.

Name Class Primary
Position
Rating Secondary
Position
Rating Overall
Rank
Position
Rank
Class Rank
Overall
Class Rank
Position
Leslie Malone Jr. QB 40.90     6662 QB173 2035 QB20
James Frazier Fr.* QB 38.95     7948 QB283 113 QB9
Darryl Vela Jr. QB 37.78     8639 QB360 2259 QB104
Kenneth Garcia Jr. RB 52.87 FB 48.46 531 RB104 58 RB9
Patrick Sargent So. RB 50.41 FB 38.67 1089 RB182 17 RB7
Harry Taylor Fr. RB 46.03 FB 35.33 3233 RB392 16 RB8
Marvin Branch Fr. RB 43.61 FB 37.80 4848 RB544 128 RB35
Jerry Barnett Jr. RB 36.21 FB 30.94 9353 RB838 2325 RB181
Ernest Collier Sr. WR 54.68     292 WR45 147 WR21
John Thornton Sr. WR 50.60     1019 WR156 599 WR86
Edward Kemp Jr. WR 48.28     1984 WR326 466 WR80
George Parsons Jr. WR 47.39     2454 WR388 630 WR109
Michael Stone So. WR 44.27     4381 WR654 521 WR87
John Hoffman Fr. WR 43.25     5084 WR746 161 WR32
Ronald Macdonald Fr. WR 43.04     5215 WR769 180 WR37
Russell Thomas Jr. TE 48.08     2096 TE75 500 TE21
Brian Walter Fr. TE 43.35     5018 TE269 150 TE4
Robert Barnard Fr. TE 39.86     7343 TE428 713 TE38
Paul Stafford Sr. OL 49.90     1270 OL152 754 OL100
Joseph Colvin Sr. OL 49.70     1360 OL168 804 OL113
Larry Charles Jr. OL 46.84     2771 OL381 767 OL88
Justin Perry Jr. OL 46.33     3067 OL436 885 OL110
Luis Potts So. OL 43.69     4792 OL752 672 OL69
Timothy Stanton So. OL 43.66     4813 OL758 682 OL70
Richard Hilliard Fr. OL 38.01     8519 OL1470 1309 OL181
Kenneth Smith Fr. OL 37.83     8615 OL1493 1367 OL197
Richard Lyons Fr. OL 37.25     8900 OL1552 1534 OL233
Charles Moore Jr. DT 49.19 DE 44.56 1545 DT291 309 DT54
Rick Phillips Sr. DT 49.13 DE 44.48 1576 DT296 917 DT189
Mark Hull So. DT 47.12 DE 39.81 2618 DT503 146 DT28
Charlie Bowman So. DT 46.90 DE 40.38 2737 DT529 161 DT31
Harold Miller Jr. DT 46.85 DE 40.78 2770 DT541 766 DT153
Terry Bennett Fr. DT 44.94 DE 39.67 3940 DT738 49 DT5
Michael Baker Fr. DT 41.40 DE 36.11 6305 DT1170 399 DT81
Michael Butler Jr. ILB 48.62 OLB 47.03 1819 ILB214 408 ILB70
Jonathan Lee Sr. ILB 47.07 OLB 46.86 2643 ILB290 1414 ILB138
Mike Foreman So. ILB 46.33 OLB 45.42 3064 ILB332 208 ILB32
Arnold Martin So. ILB 43.04 OLB 42.08 5216 ILB509 850 ILB127
Lester Watts Fr. ILB 39.36 OLB 37.97 7668 ILB678 872 ILB108
Lee Anthony Fr. OLB 41.36 ILB 41.28 6339 OLB213 411 OLB14
Charles Varner Sr. OLB 39.33 ILB 39.05 7689 OLB267 2232 OLB76
Jason Sanders Fr. CB 38.47 S 35.36 8267 CB512 1173 CB71
Joel Holmes Sr. S 49.89 CB 47.91 1273 S107 756 S76
Edward Rose So. S 46.60 CB 46.10 2903 S261 188 S14
Charles Newman Jr. S 46.14 CB 45.61 3180 S292 938 S88
William Grove Jr. S 45.91 CB 43.83 3293 S303 984 S95
Michael Jimenez So. S 44.88 CB 42.23 3979 S355 406 S24
Andrew Hartley Fr. S 40.28 CB 38.39 7057 S630 610 S45
Gabriel Adams Fr. K 38.80     8041 K206 1067 K19
Philip Jacobson Sr. P 46.25     3116 P56 1593 P32
10/16/2012 2:12 AM
I'm rather surprised at how high a recruiting class ranking I received.  In the past I haven't been able to get that kind of ranking until about season 4 of a build.  I'm guessing it had to do with having a huge jump in vision after a 10 win season, which would never have happened in even a sparsely populated world.  I guess in some ways an empty world is helpful, though boring.  My full ranking improvement is also way higher than I expected, especially since there are still 2 seasons of upperclass SIMs on the roster.  Again, sometimes an empty world is helpful, but boring.

      Challenge Challenge Challenge Overall Overall
Season Full Roster Recruit Class Season W L W L
79 158 59       7 6
80 160 171       4 9
81 109 136       8 5
82 150 91       6 7
83 82 52 1 0 0 10 3
84 40 15 2        
85     3        
86     4        
87     5        
88     6        
89     7        
10/16/2012 2:18 AM
Lost my first game of the Challenge.  Two things really bother me.  One, I passed way more than I should have under my gameplan.  Two, I couldn't run or stop the run despite an enormous talent advantage along the lines.

I got thoroughly outplayed running and passing and in stopping the run and pass despite a significant talent advantage.  So much of the current engine makes no sense to me.  I guess this is why I'm just biding my time and hoping for improvement from Norbert.  Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen before Mayan doomsday, so it's probably a pipe dream.
10/16/2012 3:14 PM
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