Posted by tripleh595 on 9/16/2012 7:42:00 PM (view original):
moranis has only ever really argued this: The SEC isn't as good as many of you would have everyone believe.
He's right about that. Looking at the last 5 completed years of College Football, let me just point this out:
Vanderbilt, Mississippi & Kentucky were all outperformed by Arizona State over this span. An Arizona State team that went 26-31 & didn't have the boost of those great schedules that SEC teams have.
Tennessee, Mississippi State & Auburn.. Yes, Auburn won a National Championship over this time & that win is counted & probably deserves alittle extra credit, so keep that in mind.. However, TCU could be argued to have outperformed all 3 of those teams. If we look at Auburn's National Title as an 1 great moment out of 5 tries & then we see that TCU has went to a couple BCS Bowl games in that span & won a Rose Bowl, then you see why TCU has actually been more consistent & done more than Auburn. Auburn missed a bowl game completely in 2008 & performed significantly worse than TCU did that year.
Yes, you could nitpick this or that out of this arguement.. But, really? If you want to argue that MAYBE Kentucky is on the same level of an Arizona State squad that's had a losing record over the last 5 years, well then.. That's pathetic for the GREAT SEC anyway. If you want to argue that you're allowed a losing season in the SEC & that the 1 National Title instantly makes Auburn better than TCU over the last 5 years, then that just makes moranis even more right about the point he's been trying to hammer through here. Because TCU, considering 5 years instead of just 1.. has performed consistently & at a higher level than Auburn through most of that period.
Give my Mississippi State Bulldogs some love man!
We do have a historical record of sub .500, but we've played B1G teams in bowl games in the past 5 years and have done ok......
We did beat the stuffing out of Michigan in the Gator Bowl in 2010/2011 season. 52-14
In 2010, MS State was in 6th place in the SEC with a 4-4 conference record and an 8-4 overall record. Michigan was 7-5 with a 3-5 conference record and 7th in the B1G (5th if you count the vacated OSU & PSU games, but I'm not going to).
So middle of the road SEC team (most call MS State an SEC celler dweller) against a middle of the road Michigan team (most consider Michigan Elite), and we buried them 52-12 and shut down their vaunted QB allowing only 88 rushing yards but did give up 254 passing yards. But did not allow Michigan to score after they posted 14 points in the 1st quarter. MS State dumped 42 unanswered points.
This was not coincidentally Michigans WORST bowl loss ever...... ever.
So cut my Bulldogs some slack, we're hit or miss most years but when we are on, we're on.
And yes, TCU is a good team with a great tradition of winning and consecutive bowl games, but over the last 5 years, how many of their 8 conference games each season were against a team not named BYU or Boise ST. It's not like they played the same caliber opponents in conference play like Alabama, LSU, USC, Georgia, Arkansas (pre-motorcycle wreck) and even Ole Miss hasn't always been bad, in 2009 they beat #21 Oklahoma St in the Cotton Bowl.
So you are essentially making the comparison that a #1 or #2 Mountain West team is competitive with the SEC because it could, possibly, maybe beat a bottom ranked SEC team.