Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2012 4:17:00 PM (view original):How many MVPs did Rickey win? I think he's great. I think he's definitely top 25 of all-time. I also think he won ONE MVP. That's what we're talking about, right? "Head and shoulders" shows your stupidity. Keep repeating it. Thanks in advance.
Posted by burnsy483 on 10/4/2012 4:25:00 PM (view original):Rickey was a little bit of a compiler. But he's had a season like Trout has had once, and yes, he won the MVP that year. If you're comparing Trout's year to the year Rickey did what Trout did, then you're kind of arguing he should be MVP. Edit: After further review, Rickey's season was better than Trout's the year he won MVP. So my argument fails somewhat.
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2012 4:26:00 PM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 10/4/2012 4:25:00 PM (view original):Rickey was a little bit of a compiler. But he's had a season like Trout has had once, and yes, he won the MVP that year. If you're comparing Trout's year to the year Rickey did what Trout did, then you're kind of arguing he should be MVP. Edit: After further review, Rickey's season was better than Trout's the year he won MVP. So my argument fails somewhat. Well, you edited before I could respond but what the hell? I'd argue that Rickey's '85 was more similar. He came in 3rd.
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2012 4:31:00 PM (view original):Yes, BL, you're the only person, in the last 40 years, to put any value on OBP and baserunning. You're a pioneer. And you forgot to say "Head and shoulders". Please don't forget next time.
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2012 4:40:00 PM (view original):Murray's 1990 WAR looks way off by comparison. Is it because he didn't steal bases? Does WAR love them some SB more than anything?
Posted by burnsy483 on 10/4/2012 4:42:00 PM (view original):Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2012 4:40:00 PM (view original):Murray's 1990 WAR looks way off by comparison. Is it because he didn't steal bases? Does WAR love them some SB more than anything?WAR actually doesn't love SB that much, I don't think. It probably has to do with his position - the replacement level player at 1B is probably a lot better offensively than he is in CF. See Dykstra.
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2012 4:45:00 PM (view original):Posted by burnsy483 on 10/4/2012 4:42:00 PM (view original):Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2012 4:40:00 PM (view original):Murray's 1990 WAR looks way off by comparison. Is it because he didn't steal bases? Does WAR love them some SB more than anything?WAR actually doesn't love SB that much, I don't think. It probably has to do with his position - the replacement level player at 1B is probably a lot better offensively than he is in CF. See Dykstra.This is what I've been getting at for the last 10 pages. You can't even compare players at different positions. An "up" year for 1B skews 1B for that season. A "down" year for CF does the same. If you have 3-4 great 2B in any given season, those 2B are "worth" less.
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