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Vice President Biden found the gameplan against the Repubs, challenge the lies and watch them flail away.

If anyone was disrepectful during the debate is it was Ryan, who just lied repeatedly to the American public.
10/13/2012 6:57 PM
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USCCB Responds To Inaccurate Statement Of Fact On HHS Mandate Made During Vice Presidential Debate

 
October 12, 2012

WASHINGTON—The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) issued the following statement, October 12. Full text follows:

Last night, the following statement was made during the Vice Presidential debate regarding the decision of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to force virtually all employers to include sterilization and contraception, including drugs that may cause abortion, in the health insurance coverage they provide their employees:

"With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact."

This is not a fact. The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain "religious employers." That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to "Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital," or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.

HHS has proposed an additional "accommodation" for religious organizations like these, which HHS itself describes as "non-exempt." That proposal does not even potentially relieve these organizations from the obligation "to pay for contraception" and "to be a vehicle to get contraception." They will have to serve as a vehicle, because they will still be forced to provide their employees with health coverage, and that coverage will still have to include sterilization, contraception, and abortifacients. They will have to pay for these things, because the premiums that the organizations (and their employees) are required to pay will still be applied, along with other funds, to cover the cost of these drugs and surgeries.

USCCB continues to urge HHS, in the strongest possible terms, actually to eliminate the various infringements on religious freedom imposed by the mandate.

For more details, please see USCCB's regulatory comments filed on May 15 regarding the proposed "accommodation": www.usccb.org/about/general-counsel/rulemaking/upload/comments-on-advance-notice-of-proposed-rulemaking-on-preventive-services-12-05-15.pdf

10/13/2012 10:09 PM
Posted by DougOut on 10/12/2012 8:18:00 PM (view original):
This election is over like I told you over a year ago.

And not just over. 

This is a landslide.

Just like I told you over a year ago.
Yet you or jclark can't produce a credible source that shows Romney winning the electoral college.

Post more pics Dougie, when you post your thoughts you expose your idiocy.
10/13/2012 10:58 PM
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Explain 2000.
10/14/2012 12:31 AM
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Doesn't matter how many times, you made a definitive statement that winning the popular vote will net a candidate the electoral college.
10/14/2012 12:59 AM
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Race is over. Obama has brought out the big gun. Morgan Freeman voicing over the newest commercial. 
10/14/2012 9:06 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 10/14/2012 1:56:00 AM (view original):
I wasnt stating some iron clad statement.

All I meant was not to worry about the EC, just get people across the nation to support you, and we can win this.
Then make your statements clearer.  They don't have the electoral college votes to win despite the closeness of the popular vote.  It's going to take some chicanery by the Republican Party in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida for Mitt to pull this out.
10/14/2012 12:53 PM
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I am sure it was a Democrat the shot the window out of the Obama campaign headquarters in Denver. 
10/14/2012 5:50 PM
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